Was the 4 IMP OL better?

Started by Tecno, July 08, 2026, 10:46:51 AM

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Was the 4 import offensive line better?

Yes
8 (40%)
No
12 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: Today at 10:46:51 AM

Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on July 09, 2026, 02:16:21 PMTackle takes his man, RB takes the next man closest to the inside of the line. QB has to know there is an unblocked man and get the ball out before taking the hit. The hit on Collaros was on Collaros.

It's called the "blind side" for a reason.  He's counting on protection.  Everyone knows the play.  Zach was fixated on the reads on the other side.  He's not losing focus to watch the blind side for an hour just to see if someone blitzes at the last second.

Since Brady knows the play too, he should know Zach will be focused away, and be doubly sure the blind side doesn't cream him.

This isn't a Zach thing because many QBs take big whacks from the blind side.  Many examples this season.  They never know the hit is coming.  Are they all bad QBs?
Never go full Johnston!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 01:20:15 AMIt's called the "blind side" for a reason.  He's counting on protection.  Everyone knows the play.  Zach was fixated on the reads on the other side.  He's not losing focus to watch the blind side for an hour just to see if someone blitzes at the last second.

Since Brady knows the play too, he should know Zach will be focused away, and be doubly sure the blind side doesn't cream him.

This isn't a Zach thing because many QBs take big whacks from the blind side.  Many examples this season.  They never know the hit is coming.  Are they all bad QBs?

Why do you continue to blame Brady when the block was the responsibility of Daniels?  What do you see Brady doing on that play?  It's not like he snuck out of the backfield and ignored his block on the right side.

TBURGESS

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 01:20:15 AMIt's called the "blind side" for a reason.  He's counting on protection.  Everyone knows the play.  Zach was fixated on the reads on the other side.  He's not losing focus to watch the blind side for an hour just to see if someone blitzes at the last second.

Since Brady knows the play too, he should know Zach will be focused away, and be doubly sure the blind side doesn't cream him.

This isn't a Zach thing because many QBs take big whacks from the blind side.  Many examples this season.  They never know the hit is coming.  Are they all bad QBs?
It's QB's fault when the defence overloads 1 side and there aren't enough blockers to pick all of them up. It's the blockers fault if there are the same number of defensive players coming as there are blockers. 
Plan for the worst. Hope for the best.

Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on Today at 01:46:19 AMIt's QB's fault when the defence overloads 1 side and there aren't enough blockers to pick all of them up. It's the blockers fault if there are the same number of defensive players coming as there are blockers.

3 showed/came on right side.  2 showed / 3 came on left side.  It's that 3rd (outermost) that got Zach.

So according to your rules, that's on the blockers.  And that's what I've been saying since the GDT.

Well, I guess it depends on if you consider Daniels a blocker or a SB.  He was in the slot and doing the waggle and went out into the flat for a quick pass target.  But he was/is probably supposed to switch to blocking if heat is coming.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 01:39:02 AMWhy do you continue to blame Brady when the block was the responsibility of Daniels?  What do you see Brady doing on that play?  It's not like he snuck out of the backfield and ignored his block on the right side.

I would blame Brady first/more for the simple fact that he's the experienced uber-vet, and higher paid player.  Daniels knows nothing (yet) because he's raw and green and learning.

Also, Brady was already on that blitz side.  If he just stays in place (where he can reach the attacker faster anyhow) he makes that block.  Even if he goes to the other side, he may be too late to help someone free off the edge, and that's basically what ended up happening.  He would have to know this free WILL blitzer would be a straight sprint to the QB!

If they were both equally as vet a player?  Ya, we'd have to know the scheme to know for sure who to blame.  Also, it's probably correct to blame both guys, to some extent.

My #1 main point, to counter the GDT, is this is NOT Big Stan's fault, nor the fault of the 4IMP OL experiment.
Never go full Johnston!

TBURGESS

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 04:10:18 AM3 showed/came on right side.  2 showed / 3 came on left side.  It's that 3rd (outermost) that got Zach.

So according to your rules, that's on the blockers.  And that's what I've been saying since the GDT.

Well, I guess it depends on if you consider Daniels a blocker or a SB.  He was in the slot and doing the waggle and went out into the flat for a quick pass target.  But he was/is probably supposed to switch to blocking if heat is coming.
Tackle takes the first one, rb takes the 2nd one. The 3rd is free. IIRC Daniels was outside of the 3rd guy meaning he had no blocking responsibility. 
Plan for the worst. Hope for the best.

CrazyCanuck89

Quote from: TBURGESS on Today at 01:30:32 PMTackle takes the first one, rb takes the 2nd one. The 3rd is free. IIRC Daniels was outside of the 3rd guy meaning he had no blocking responsibility.

It's just easy for fans to blame the rookie.