Retiring QB's?

Started by Blue In BC, November 09, 2025, 01:35:36 PM

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Pete

Quote from: Tecno on November 12, 2025, 11:13:49 PMI still say the SSK RECs look better than they are because of that stout OL, legit run game, OC plan, and pin-point all-short QB Trevor.

The only potential great RECs are Johnson and Emilus (for a NAT).  Emilus could reach Demski levels, maybe.  But none of those guys are reaching Kenny levels.  Robustelli is just another dime a dozen Eberhardt-type guys.  KSB is another Woli.  Busby isn't even Clercius.

Yes, they are all competent and solid, but none are going to be league top-5 in talent (I don't care what their yards stats say).  None will ever command Kenny/Gino money.

And that's my whole point: imitate SSK and get solid moneyball type RECs and put all the savings into the OL.  Our highest paid should be Demski, and that's ONLY because he's a hometown hero and BFL.

Schafer Baker can be very good as well if he could stay healthy

RebusRankin

Quote from: Jesse on November 11, 2025, 09:58:01 PMOr he saved himself from a tough negotiation by re-upping him before the salary cap went up.


He's not worth the $ when Harris, BLM and VAJ all make between 375,000-450,000 and were better than he was.

dd

Quote from: Tecno on November 12, 2025, 11:13:49 PMI still say the SSK RECs look better than they are because of that stout OL, legit run game, OC plan, and pin-point all-short QB Trevor.

The only potential great RECs are Johnson and Emilus (for a NAT).  Emilus could reach Demski levels, maybe.  But none of those guys are reaching Kenny levels.  Robustelli is just another dime a dozen Eberhardt-type guys.  KSB is another Woli.  Busby isn't even Clercius.

Yes, they are all competent and solid, but none are going to be league top-5 in talent (I don't care what their yards stats say).  None will ever command Kenny/Gino money.

And that's my whole point: imitate SSK and get solid moneyball type RECs and put all the savings into the OL.  Our highest paid should be Demski, and that's ONLY because he's a hometown hero and BFL.

Meyers made several big plays this year as well. I m sure he ll be looking for a pay raise and Emilius will for sure due to his NAT stature, but where does that leave KSB?? I m thinking we ll pickup where we left off, taking whatever sask doesn't chose to re sign.

Jesse

Quote from: RebusRankin on Today at 12:25:44 AMHe's not worth the $ when Harris, BLM and VAJ all make between 375,000-450,000 and were better than he was.

Those particular guys were values in this particular year. I think all three were on significantly higher contracts previously on other teams but got shafted and had to renegotiate.

If all sign new contracts in 2025 under the new salary cap, I don't tbh in they sign at those numbers anymore.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 12:43:05 AMThose particular guys were values in this particular year. I think all three were on significantly higher contracts previously on other teams but got shafted and had to renegotiate.

If all sign new contracts in 2025 under the new salary cap, I don't tbh in they sign at those numbers anymore.

They had to renegotiate because they had some bad and/or injury plagued years just prior.

Look at Collaros this year and last year and draw up a contract based on that. He's exactly where those guys were when they signed smaller deals.

Tecno

Quote from: dd on Today at 12:32:52 AMI m thinking we ll pickup where we left off, taking whatever sask doesn't chose to re sign.

Sometimes feels that way.  We love sniping guys from SSK and EDM under Mafia rule, don't we?

I think it was Zach in his season-ender presser that said something that really resonates: we didn't find our identity as a team this year.  I can't recall if he meant O or both O & D.  But he's right about the O.  They never figured out who they were or what they were good at.  Kind of meh at everything.

In contrast, everyone knows SSK's identity (dink & dunk & run all the way).  Everyone knows MTL's (screens galore, Alexander escaping, and long bombs).  Everyone knew our identity when AH33 was here (run first, run mostly, run always).  Everyone knew it when Lapo was here (also dink & dunk, plus crazy complicated looks).

We never found our identity in 2025, and thus couldn't focus & specialize and use that to hammer opponents.  I hope this is solved in '26.  Not sure what the solution is, though.
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ichabod_crane

Quote from: Tecno on November 12, 2025, 12:35:08 AMI dunno, the OC looked pretty darn good in the 3rd Q in the ESF.  He had a decent plan to beat MTL.  I was actually quite surprised.  If only our D could have held Alexander a little bit more...

One quarter of decent play calling vs a mostly sad year is not giving me hope!

ichabod_crane

Quote from: dd on November 12, 2025, 05:45:22 PM$684k is crazy money for a CFL team to pay anyone, especially for a guy who hasn't won anything, forget the Grey Cup, he hasn't even won a playoff game!!

He's won two semifinals to be fair.