The ugly

Tecno · October 19, 2025, 02:26:12 AM

Quote from: markf on October 18, 2025, 01:14:59 PMHe's got to really be sick of that group. All season long there have been plays where a D player goes unblocked up the middle for a free smash at the QB. Opponents all know that play will be there.

Ya, but they did a very strange thing post-game: they put the post-game on-field Zach interview live on the jumbotron! They never do that, except in the post-season. I wonder if that was Zach's request, or WM's? Someone made that call.

I thought it was very nice, though a bit uncomfortable. Zach thanked the fans profusely even though they booed him at least twice in the game (not me though!).

In the post-game on bb.com Zach looked almost crying/emotional, real beaten down, saying the whole O was bad (including him). It's a new look for him.

He seems to be hurting physically and emotionally. Must be pretty tough after taking a major pounding all game because your OL is crap, having your fans boo you for your troubles, then trying to put a brave face on things. I'm glad he's made of stern stuff. I still got your back Zach!

DM83 · October 19, 2025, 03:43:18 AM

It's going to get worse you realize!
It looks like some guys quit. Then again, that's ludicrous. The problem is in my opinion, the Offensive coordinator. He is in way over his head.

I noticed on at least one play we threw some sort of curl, and the other two receivers on the screen were open, and of course the intended receiver dropped the ball or it was contested, anyway, or wasn't caught. The camera remained, in the field area, and bith other receivers, shoulders just dropped and they just walked off. It was like imho, it was expected. And this is what they did, during a game the team was within 3 points of the lead.

I use thought what's going on.???myeah it was an awfully performed play, but we are on a crap team that is struggling, and within three, and you guys are letting it get to you? Ugly. Still two games to go, amd that's your opinion of your brothers?

Tecno · October 19, 2025, 05:27:46 AM

Quote from: DM83 on October 19, 2025, 03:43:18 AMThe camera remained, in the field area, and bith other receivers, shoulders just dropped and they just walked off. It was like imho, it was expected. And this is what they did, during a game the team was within 3 points of the lead.

If that's the attitude on-field then I would expect MOS to notice and step in. This is a HC thing, and a team-captain thing. Can't let it fester or take root. If some guys can't overcome it, bench them or it'll infect everyone.

I'm not a fan of Dickenson The Greater, but I remember one game a few years ago when they were like (2nd-?)last in the West and the guys were sulking coming off the field near the end of another loss and he screamed out something like "posture, hold your head up, don't let them see you like this". And he's right.

Horseman · October 19, 2025, 03:52:38 PM

I hope ZC is at the point where he thinks when Hogan calls a play that isn't going to work and then over rides Hogan and calls his own play instead. What would Osh do...pull ZC? I don't think so. ZC has to call his own plays from now on.

dd · October 19, 2025, 04:07:12 PM

The body language from recievers, Brady and Zach post game, all points in the direction that the players are sick and tired of the play calling and their OC. I tell ya, he's done, players are pushing back, if I was MOS I'd quietly take the reins away from Hogan and either let Jackson or Collaros call the plays. Hogan is absolutely lost.

The Zipp · October 19, 2025, 05:27:42 PM

5 straight drives in the second half, no touches for brady...no first downs

been hounding on this since the start of the season. the gaps in games where we go without first downs or one or two is crazy.

we literally are having to try and win games in 3 quarter of offense cause we disappear for an entire quarter.

coaches have no answer and honestly have rarely even acknowledged it. the standard response of "we need to play better and execute on our assignments" is long over used.

dd · October 19, 2025, 06:00:34 PM

With all of our offensive woes, I have yet to see an interview with Hogan himself, and it is rare a Coordinator is interviewed, but I'd love to see him explain why our O line can't pickup an A gap blitz, or why do we go away from the run game for extended periods when our passing game stinks

Throw Long Bannatyne · October 19, 2025, 06:56:19 PM

Quote from: dd on October 19, 2025, 06:00:34 PMWith all of our offensive woes, I have yet to see an interview with Hogan himself, and it is rare a Coordinator is interviewed, but I'd love to see him explain why our O line can't pickup an A gap blitz, or why do we go away from the run game for extended periods when our passing game stinks

Look in the video thread at the top of the page, Hogan has done 3 or 4 interviews in the last month or two.

Tecno · October 21, 2025, 12:24:43 AM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 19, 2025, 06:56:19 PMLook in the video thread at the top of the page, Hogan has done 3 or 4 interviews in the last month or two.

Ya, Hogan's been interviewed a lot, post-practice. Much more than Younger. I think it's good the press is holding Hogan's feet to the fire more. The answers are still mostly deflections, though, so don't expect any juicy meat or mea culpas.

Tecno · October 21, 2025, 12:26:20 AM

Quote from: Horseman on October 19, 2025, 03:52:38 PMI hope ZC is at the point where he thinks when Hogan calls a play that isn't going to work and then over rides Hogan and calls his own play instead. What would Osh do...pull ZC? I don't think so. ZC has to call his own plays from now on.

We may be the least-audibles team in the league. Rarely does Zach change the call, unless there's some obvious D setup that piques his interest. Even then...

Who was the guy audibling like every single snap earlier in the season? Ford? Cody? It was really strange to watch.