GDT Edm at Tor, Sat Sep 13, 2:00PM

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Which is quite odd because Dinwiddie likes to try to have a run game.  And even odder given what Rankin did for EDM last week (200Y)!

I'm expecting Rankin to do better in the 2nd H.  TOR hasn't been that great against the run this season, no?

I was betting on Rankin to have another big game, but the Argo D-line pretty much shut him down.  A preview of what they could do to any RB including Brady. Every other team has gone to a powerful RB and the Argos are still messing around with little scat backs.

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Nice little dust up and the end of the game, I didn't catch all of the post game presser but apparently someone was chirping dinwiddie all game from the Edmonton bench and then didn't like it when he teed off on them after the winning field goal. I thought Edmonton was classier than that, What a bunch of D bags Edmonton coaching staff is especially killam for let ting this go on. MOS would never have anyone from our club carry on like that. Glad Edmonton lost for more than one reason!!

[TecnoGenius]

The brutal hurdle stop in 3rd... Ya, shocked they didn't immediately flag it.  He doesn't have to jump with the hurdler and 2-hand punch him directly in the face.  If the DB doesn't jump his 2 hands hit the chest and no penalty.

Oh ya, notice how EITS flagged this with no challenge?  Again, why did we haev to challenge the Zach hit??

[TecnoGenius]

Nice little dust up and the end of the game, I didn't catch all of the post game presser but apparently someone was chirping dinwiddie all game from the Edmonton bench

Having the benches on the same side in many East stadiums is the dumbest thing ever, and should be banned.  For what?  Just so they can put more of those on-field premium seats?  It's horrible.

[TecnoGenius]

Man I d love to have dinwiddie as our HC. He game plans for his backup Qb only to change that in game for his backup backup Qb and manages a clock like you should.

Dinwiddie has the advantage of being the HC and the OC.  And he's really more OC than HC.  If you can be a competent HC and great OC then you can have a definite advantage, assuming you don't get overwhelmed.

Dinwiddie is at least at the level of Lapo for brainy OC.  And he does seem to be the QB whisperer, working with whatever he's given.

If TOR had any other OC for the '24, TOR loses that game.  Getting Arbuckle to play that well in 1 week was an unbelievable feat.

We don't need Dinwiddie, though.  What we need is our OC + HC to up their game to accomplish the same things.  And not just QB, every player needs to be schemed better.

[TecnoGenius]

I think Edmonton's turn around lately is more about improved defensive play than Fajardo in for Ford.

A couple of injuries on Edmonton's D today.

Yes, and EDM sends a lot of heat.  Our OL will have trouble.  However, we can counter it with a run-heavy game plan.  EDM is still vulnerable against the run, especially if Anderson is IRd.

Contain Rankin and take a pick off Cody when he does his lame deep shot, and we might actually have a shot!  However, we have to stop giving the ball away.  That's job #1.

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Dinwiddie has the advantage of being the HC and the OC.  And he's really more OC than HC.  If you can be a competent HC and great OC then you can have a definite advantage, assuming you don't get overwhelmed.

Dinwiddie is at least at the level of Lapo for brainy OC.  And he does seem to be the QB whisperer, working with whatever he's given.

If TOR had any other OC for the '24, TOR loses that game.  Getting Arbuckle to play that well in 1 week was an unbelievable feat.

We don't need Dinwiddie, though.  What we need is our OC + HC to up their game to accomplish the same things.  And not just QB, every player needs to be schemed better.

C mon man, dinwiddie is niles better than lapo—-you think lapo could have done what dinwiddie did in last years GC, I don't, not even for a second.his offense in Ottawa was brutal and so was he as an OC and HC

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Arbuckle comes out of the tent and limps onto the field only to throw his 4th interception of the game (5 if you count the one that was negated by penalty).

I think Edmonton's turn around lately is more about improved defensive play than Fajardo in for Ford.

A couple of injuries on Edmonton's D today.

Get serious for half a second. You out ford into today's game and Toronto walks away with it. He is a horrible Qb, and much of Edmonton's turnaround has been because fajardo can put up some points. Ford was lucky to put up 10 points a game and complete 5 passes. See it for what it is and not let your Cody hatred skew things

[TecnoGenius]

C mon man, dinwiddie is niles better than lapo—-you think lapo could have done what dinwiddie did in last years GC, I don't, not even for a second.his offense in Ottawa was brutal and so was he as an OC and HC

Lapo is the one that came up with the Strev packages in 2019 that probably were why we made it to the cup.  That's some QB whispering too.  He also managed to get the maximum out of Nichols.

Ya, Dinwiddie probably wins a head to head, but it's not by a ton.  There's very few genius minds for scheme and matching your schemes to talent.

Lapo in OTT is no fair comparison to anything.  The team was toast for years before he showed up, and just kept sucking because they had no players at all.

[TecnoGenius]

Get serious for half a second. You out ford into today's game and Toronto walks away with it. He is a horrible Qb, and much of Edmonton's turnaround has been because fajardo can put up some points. Ford was lucky to put up 10 points a game and complete 5 passes. See it for what it is and not let your Cody hatred skew things

But he wasn't saying Cody did nothing, he said the D improving mattered more than Cody.  Cody certainly appears to make them look way more "legit", because he's a more traditional, and accomplished/vet, QB.

If you want to pin it more on Cody, that's a legit take.  Might even be true.  But that EDM D is really tightening up.  Tough to run against, too.  But it appears to be very dependent on injury situation.  If their high $ MLB is out again, that won't be good for them.

Keep in mind EDM spent GOBS on their D last off-season.  Not so much on their O.

[Waffler]

Nice little dust up and the end of the game, I didn't catch all of the post game presser but apparently someone was chirping dinwiddie all game from the Edmonton bench and then didn't like it when he teed off on them after the winning field goal. I thought Edmonton was classier than that, What a bunch of D bags Edmonton coaching staff is especially killam for let ting this go on. MOS would never have anyone from our club carry on like that. Glad Edmonton lost for more than one reason!!

It was no Rita vs Reinebold but it was the oddest one in several years. Maybe the last one was the Toronto/Hamilton playoff of 2021? Dinwiddie/Argo franchise again....

Jordan Williams was the chirper, the same guy let go after the "pretender in our building" speech.

Link breaking down the details and including video of Dinwiddie's kicking motion:

https://3downnation.com/2025/09/13/those-guys-can-enjoy-the-offseason-argos-ryan-dinwiddie-blames-altercation-with-elks-bench-on-pretender-not-in-our-building/

[Stats Junkie]

Get serious for half a second. You out ford into today's game and Toronto walks away with it. He is a horrible Qb, and much of Edmonton's turnaround has been because fajardo can put up some points. Ford was lucky to put up 10 points a game and complete 5 passes. See it for what it is and not let your Cody hatred skew things

I'm not sure how you equate my comment to hatred for Cody Fajardo.

Edmonton has allowed 22 or fewer points in 5 games since Fajardo took over as the starter and Edmonton is 4-1 in those games. Edmonton has allowed 28 or more points in 8 games this season (3 times since Fajardo took over) and Edmonton is 1-7 in those games.

I think the only critique I have ever directed towards Cody Fajardo was about people who try to correlate a high completion percentage with efficiency. I stand by that comment as a 77% completion percentage doesn't mean anything if you have to punt 50% of the time. That critique was as much of a commentary about the CFL media as it was about Fajardo. Yes, Fajardo has a high Pass Efficiency Rating (111.3). Unfortunately, we continue to use an antiquated formula that over values completion percentage. I suppose that is where the media gets the idea that Fajardo is efficient. A couple of TSN talking heads have made comments this season about not understanding what the ratings actually mean or how the formula works.

That formula was developed more than 50 years ago and based on an average performance of:
- 50% completion percentage
- 7.0 yards per pass attempt
- 5 TD passes per 100 pass attempts
- 5.5 interceptions per 100 pass attempts

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

But he wasn't saying Cody did nothing, he said the D improving mattered more than Cody.  Cody certainly appears to make them look way more "legit", because he's a more traditional, and accomplished/vet, QB.

If you want to pin it more on Cody, that's a legit take.  Might even be true.  But that EDM D is really tightening up.  Tough to run against, too.  But it appears to be very dependent on injury situation.  If their high $ MLB is out again, that won't be good for them.

Keep in mind EDM spent GOBS on their D last off-season.  Not so much on their O.

Yep, on paper the Elks D looks great (except their secondary) and has since they won free agency, they're finally playing up to the level that was expected of them right out of the gate.  Their high $ MLB Nick Anderson, is nasty but cheap, he was the CFL's top rookie last season and is still on his ELC.