Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Hamilton - September 12, 2025

[TecnoGenius]

O Line - no

D Line - no

Secondary - no

QB - no

Coachin staff - not a chance

OL - maybe, with Vant/Lofton
DL - no
QB - yes, with protection and scheme
DBs - 100% yes we have the talent, why do you think HAM only picked on Lawson?  Put Parker there, instantly one of the best DB corps.  Even with no pressure they might be lockdown

Coaches: are letting the whole team down.  Players are going to start losing faith in the system, if they haven't already.  The look on Brady & Demski's faces today was very telling.

[TecnoGenius]

Yeah I actually agree with you, I just find it unfamiliar seeing you criticize the team ever in the last 15 years since I joined the forum.

Aards down on the team: pig's flying (there they go! oink oink)

PJ down on the team: hades freezes over (never gonna happen)

[TecnoGenius]

I would rather take time to make a correct decision than make a wrong one quickly. There's literally no way no know anything right now, regardless of how slow you can run the tape.

Yet no one said boo about the posts well before mine saying that Strev "looked injured".  So them giving their diagnosis of "looks injured" after a real-time one-shot view: OK in your books.  Me giving my diagnosis of "nothing bad visibly happened to his legs" after a slo-mo computer deep dive: grounds for 10+ posts of "waste of time"?

Shouldn't you apply it equally to everyone doing the former?  Or are we only allowed to TV-diagnose our players with BAD outcomes?

Starting today I'm going to keep track of my educated guess diagnoses, and start keeping score.  I'd say if I can beat 75% success rate, then it's worthwhile, at least to me.

[TecnoGenius]

Houston: they didn't test him much.  When he came in on come-back wide out passes (and at other times) he really laid the wood on RECs.  Good!  I think he was excellent in his first game back.  If it was Vaval over there they would have picked on him as much as Lawson.

[TecnoGenius]

No post-games on the video thread nor the bb site?  Strange, as it wasn't a "late" game.

Maybe they won't show them because they are just crying and expletives and fisticuffs and hari kari?

I guess I'll try to track down the 'OB one...

[TecnoGenius]

I put a link to the MOS CJOB interview on the stickied video thread.  I'm sure many of you heard this already.  First time for me.

MOS offering the exact same usual platitudes.  He might start getting in trouble for this.  It's starting to sound a bit like Dickenson The Lesser's SSK "shucks the boy's played hard" that got so many SSK fans irate after 2 seasons of constant losing -- irate enough to abandon their STH's forever.

"Certainly not out of hand" -- uh, we were down 3 scores at one point, in the 2nd half, and for quite a while.

His first response to a Strev question: "showed grittiness".  Ya, he did, but that's not the main takeaway about Strev from this game...

I think MOS is going to have to start talking about how they will DO SOMETHING.  "A couple of plays back" is not enough to win us anything.  Fans will get more restless after this one.

Maybe the boys will go bowling.  (Riderforum readers will get this)

[TecnoGenius]

Confirmed: Strev INTs 1 & 2: both times the DB starts his cheat up BEFORE the ball is thrown.  On INT #1 the DB cheats up as soon as the ball snaps to Strev and he looks that way.  Wow.

There was zero respect for a double-move or an over-the-top pass.  ZERO.

In INT #1 it was 2 REC on 1 DB out on an island.  How do you lose that?  Worse, make it an INT?  Have the WR do a fake curl and have the "blocker" do a faux block and bee-line down the rail!  Instant TD.  Even if Strev can't throw, make it a rainbow and the REC can get under it somehow.  The DB would never recover in time, even on an underthrow.

INT #2 if Demski stops & goes he has only a badly positioned FS to beat.

What I don't understand, is if we see all game all DBs undercutting routes and cheating up, why don't we adjust to make them pay?

LAPO WOULD HAVE MADE THEM PAY.  He would have loved getting them to bite so hard like this to set them up for massive pain later in the game.  Why can't Hogan see this and use this as easy bait?

That said, Strev needs to learn to pull it back down when he sees no one bit on the deep route fake.  INT #1 I guess he can be forgiven because Pokey was supposed to block/rub -- and he failed miserably.  But INT #2 he could have pulled it back down.  In fact, I think he used to be good at this: pull it down and just run forward.

Why are all these other coords playing chess while we play tiddlywinks?

[TecnoGenius]

Thanks to gobombersgo for burning the midnight oil and putting up the post-games at 2:30am!

They were both super short: 1-2 mins each from Strev/MOS.  Strev was mega bummed out.  MOS just said the usual.

I think it's wearing on the players, all this losing.

[J5V]

Remember this scene from Jaws?

I think O'Shea is Quint, after he takes a bat to the marine radio cutting off all hope of a rescue he intends to burn the boat down to the waterline just to prove he's the captain.  I only wish he was a heavy drinker so we'd get a little more entertainment value out of what's left of this season.

LOL!

At this point I am disappointed that MOS isn't a lot smarter than what he is showing. Very disappointed. He's being out-coached on a regular basis and I always believed that as the years went by he'd get wiser. For some reason that hasn't happened and it isn't just stubbornness. He may just not be a very good coach. Great cheerleader though.

Wade Miller has some tough decisions to make.

[Blue In BC]

I'm not honestly sure adding some players from our PR is going to help. Adams, Woods, J. Jones and Echols either aren't good enough or the coaches are too stubborn to move away from current roster unless injuries force the issue.

Griffin got nicked but might be ok to play next week. The jury is still out on whether Collaros can play. I was surprised he was on the sidelines, thinking flying can be an issue when dealing with possible concussion. Maybe that's a good sign he plays next week.

Regardless, Ottawa is a good team on offence but not so much on defence. It won't be an easy job to win if we don't find a way to stop the turnover freebees.

[Blue In BC]

Defence played fairly well all things considered. That may be a little deceptive when the opponent gets a 2 TD advantage with points on turnovers, it changes the plan somewhat.

Houston played well. Lawson was the weakest link but didn't give up the explosive plays as in past games.

Next game against the Redblacks may be an issue with a QB that can run and make plays on the run. Brown is less elusive but more dangerous as a passer. I'm not sure who will start but can we pressure either?

[jdrattops]

Id love to hear him answer this

I sent this to DT and DB on the post game but they didn't answer this.  I plan on calling in on Monday to ask Osh this question.

[Waffler]

Seriously hate that DRUNK RIGHT NOW crap during a broadcast when my kids are watching

This is the look the CFL wants?

Me too! Not even enjoy responsibly? I'll save that Playnow logo on our jersey for another time though.

Where are my Ulf Nilsson drinking only milk commercials?

[bunker]

Again disagree.  Those days aren't behind him, but they may be for the Oline.  If we had an Oline from 2019/2021 - Zach is back in form.

Where is Travis Bond when you need him?
I  know,  I know, he's from well before 2019. But the idea is that sometimes bringing in one key piece, one very good player, can make everyone around them better. And yes, getting Nichols for Willy made a huge difference also, but Bond was crucial.

[dd]

I sent this to DT and DB on the post game but they didn't answer this.  I plan on calling in on Monday to ask Osh this question.

He'll come up with some cockamamy excuse, but the reality is, he's incompetent with clock management and that goes ditto for our OC. We should have our 3 minute offense already mapped out pre game. We got nothing, we fly by the seat of our pants asleep at the wheel. It's so JV high school football it isn't even funny. Actually JV teams manage it better than the Bombers!!

You can tell a teams football IQ by how many times they have to call a TO to get the right personnel on the field, and by the way they manage the clock in the last 3 minutes. We have had to call timeout a number of times to get the right D on the field and the scenario you laid out is 100% correct, but totally beyond our coaching staff. It's sad. Professional football and to squander time like that is a sin, yet we put up with it