Official Game Day Thread - BC at Winnipeg, June 12, 2025

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TecnoGenius

BC still starting 4 IMP OL shows that they are in roster/ratio hades.  With only Focault (NAT) on IR, that means they planned for 3 IMP all along.  I guess Rourke gives them 1 "freebie".

Now we see why they paid so much for Rourke & Betts... they needed to in order to maintain the ratio.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on June 11, 2025, 07:41:30 PMBut I really don't like is the 9 LBs and with Ayers it's actually 10. Do we really need 10 LBs.

We always dress a ton of LBers.  Sometimes we dress like 6 WILLs alone.  At least it's more balanced now.  And we're doing 1-2 less FS than usual.

It's nice that we get a backup DB for "free" as he's our returner.  Bonus.
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Quote from: Blue In BC on June 11, 2025, 04:22:08 PMI think I mentioned during free agency or early TC that we should be on the hunt for another Canadian OL.

We don't buy NAT OL in FA.  We sell.

That said, Rice is still out there, as is Chungh I think?  Rice would be cheap(ish) and is like an Eli.  Chungh will probably want Desjar money.
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Quote from: Jesse on June 11, 2025, 03:59:28 PMIt seems like we have actively made the decision to go with the 3 IMP OL. Which we've done in the past to shore things up.

Not necessarily.  We still don't have the "real" answer to the OL riddle because the Neuf GTD and Lofton injury take away what I feel is our best OL lineup.  Lofton out forcing Randolph to OT doesn't tell us whether Vanterpool is the desired LG or just filling in for Randolph.

Neuf maybe being injured doesn't tell us whether Wallace would have been that LG instead.

The only answer we got this week is Mafia is willing to use 3 IMP OL.  They don't have to, as Eli or Wallace (if not at RG) could take that LG spot...  However, I feel a bit of a "told ya so" coming on, as 3 IMP OL game 1 proves that Mafia considered it a good option all FA/TC.  The definitive toldyaso will have to wait for a fully healthy Neuf and Lofton.

Quote from: Jesse on June 11, 2025, 03:59:28 PMWe're essentially rolling with no depth at receiver, in the secondary, or at DE.

I love the idea of Corcoran as backup REC.  NAT to help the ratio, and looked like dynamite in PS.  We rarely need the backup REC anyhow.

1 backup DB, 1 backup FS, with 1+ bacukp SAM is all pretty normal for us.
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Quote from: markf on June 11, 2025, 02:36:53 PM"Betts wasn't alone, as the vaunted one-two punch of Rankin and Javon Leake that made Edmonton so dangerous down the stretch in 2024 combined for just 29 yards.

Ya, but no Brown.  And EDM didn't make any effort to run the ball.  They didn't even do the "try but quit after sucking" thing.  They barely tried.  It simply wasn't part of the game plan.

That's why EDM got 29 yards.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 11, 2025, 09:47:21 PMYa, but no Brown.  And EDM didn't make any effort to run the ball.  They didn't even do the "try but quit after sucking" thing.  They barely tried.  It simply wasn't part of the game plan.

That's why EDM got 29 yards.


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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 11, 2025, 09:35:52 PMNot necessarily.  We still don't have the "real" answer to the OL riddle because the Neuf GTD and Lofton injury take away what I feel is our best OL lineup.  Lofton out forcing Randolph to OT doesn't tell us whether Vanterpool is the desired LG or just filling in for Randolph.

Neuf maybe being injured doesn't tell us whether Wallace would have been that LG instead.

The only answer we got this week is Mafia is willing to use 3 IMP OL.  They don't have to, as Eli or Wallace (if not at RG) could take that LG spot...  However, I feel a bit of a "told ya so" coming on, as 3 IMP OL game 1 proves that Mafia considered it a good option all FA/TC.  The definitive toldyaso will have to wait for a fully healthy Neuf and Lofton.

I love the idea of Corcoran as backup REC.  NAT to help the ratio, and looked like dynamite in PS.  We rarely need the backup REC anyhow.

1 backup DB, 1 backup FS, with 1+ bacukp SAM is all pretty normal for us.


None of the current injuries affect what the ratio would have been, imo.

Randolph in for Lofton is a straight import swap.

If they were going to have Randolph at LG, it's still an extra IMP.

If Wallace had won the LG spot, he'd be playing as LG.

Corcoran would be fine as a back-up, but not as the only back-up. This is how we ended up with Strev running routes last year. The reason we signed all of these CFL vets at receiver was to not put ourselves in this position.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 11, 2025, 09:35:52 PMNot necessarily.  We still don't have the "real" answer to the OL riddle because the Neuf GTD and Lofton injury take away what I feel is our best OL lineup.  Lofton out forcing Randolph to OT doesn't tell us whether Vanterpool is the desired LG or just filling in for Randolph.

Neuf maybe being injured doesn't tell us whether Wallace would have been that LG instead.

The only answer we got this week is Mafia is willing to use 3 IMP OL.  They don't have to, as Eli or Wallace (if not at RG) could take that LG spot...  However, I feel a bit of a "told ya so" coming on, as 3 IMP OL game 1 proves that Mafia considered it a good option all FA/TC.  The definitive toldyaso will have to wait for a fully healthy Neuf and Lofton.

I love the idea of Corcoran as backup REC.  NAT to help the ratio, and looked like dynamite in PS.  We rarely need the backup REC anyhow.

1 backup DB, 1 backup FS, with 1+ bacukp SAM is all pretty normal for us.

I really like Corcoran as well

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on June 12, 2025, 02:25:19 AMCorcoran would be fine as a back-up, but not as the only back-up. This is how we ended up with Strev running routes last year. The reason we signed all of these CFL vets at receiver was to not put ourselves in this position.

Chris-Ike and Peterson can also step in if there's a REC injury.  None are ideal, unless Corcoran is like the next Pokey.  (I thought he looked a bit Dressler-esque, or even Cahoon-like, but smaller/skinnier.)

If there's 1, maybe 2, games a year a REC gets injured, I'm fine with rolling handicapped for a Q or 2.  Most teams have a 5th NAT placeholder REC starting that they completely ignore, so this is still better than that.

The reason we don't have an extra IMP as backup REC is because we're using the DI K/P-returner on Vaval.  So there's no way around it without going 2 IMP OL or sacrificing someone like Griffin or the already-tight DL.

I think we'll be fine.
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TecnoGenius

Is Willie starting on the strong side a bit different?  This is looking more like when Jeffcoat was in the mix.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:26:25 AMChris-Ike and Peterson can also step in if there's a REC injury.  None are ideal, unless Corcoran is like the next Pokey.  (I thought he looked a bit Dressler-esque, or even Cahoon-like, but smaller/skinnier.)

If there's 1, maybe 2, games a year a REC gets injured, I'm fine with rolling handicapped for a Q or 2.  Most teams have a 5th NAT placeholder REC starting that they completely ignore, so this is still better than that.

The reason we don't have an extra IMP as backup REC is because we're using the DI K/P-returner on Vaval.  So there's no way around it without going 2 IMP OL or sacrificing someone like Griffin or the already-tight DL.

I think we'll be fine.

It was really nice having Ford in the secondary.
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Quote from: Jesse on June 12, 2025, 11:06:59 AMIt was really nice having Ford in the secondary.

biggest loss of the season...and no i didn't forget about Kenny

Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:26:25 AMChris-Ike and Peterson can also step in if there's a REC injury.  None are ideal, unless Corcoran is like the next Pokey.  (I thought he looked a bit Dressler-esque, or even Cahoon-like, but smaller/skinnier.)

If there's 1, maybe 2, games a year a REC gets injured, I'm fine with rolling handicapped for a Q or 2.  Most teams have a 5th NAT placeholder REC starting that they completely ignore, so this is still better than that.

The reason we don't have an extra IMP as backup REC is because we're using the DI K/P-returner on Vaval.  So there's no way around it without going 2 IMP OL or sacrificing someone like Griffin or the already-tight DL.

I think we'll be fine.
Agree all, having depth in other areas more critical

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