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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 12:54:44 PMLogan would have been the back receiver in his primary role as a returner ( DI spot ). Now that he'll miss game 1, there will be another player that takes that role. What I was pointing out was the possible change in ratio down to 7 starters. If that happens we'll need a Canadian receiver as a back up.

Gee, how far back would you have to go to find a game where Peyton Logan was a receiver? High school?

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 02:54:01 PMGee, how far back would you have to go to find a game where Peyton Logan was a receiver? High school?

As an in game injury replacement that is usually a role the returner takes. While Logan is more of a RB than a WR, he has a history of some receptions out of the backfield and / or in spot duty.

It was not very likely we would have had an actual receiver as a DI, so our choices would have been limited for an in game situation. It's not unusual for a RB to have some skill as a receiver.

As I pointed out why we would also need a back up Canadian receiver as depth on the AR. Augustine may have been an emergency back up in 2024 but his roster spot falls into a TBD.

Somebody has to fill the back up role for receivers.

One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:06:42 PMSomebody has to fill the back up role for receivers.



Totally. Someone has to do it...but my guess is it probably won't be a running back.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 03:34:51 PMTotally. Someone has to do it...but my guess is it probably won't be a running back.

Logan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers.

One game at a time.

BomberFan73

K Harris (WR) returns
DB Vaval also returns

Blue In BC

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 19, 2025, 04:10:45 PMK Harris (WR) returns
DB Vaval also returns

Vaval won't help back up receivers but he could also be the rotation DB as well as the returner in theory. That said, I don't know where he stands in the DB choices as depth.

Harris has had some good comments as a receiver but I'm not sure how much work he's had yet as a returner. He might be a choice that could be a DI.

We'll see what happens in the pre -season games I guess.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:43:59 PMLogan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers.



Gavin Cobb can back up receivers and returners, if an import receiver goes down for more than a game they  pull his replacement off the PR, same scenario happened last season when Lawler and Schoen went down. Based on vibes, if Wheatfall isn't cut outright I expect he's headed for the PR along with a few other receivers, maybe Kody Case and Gassama. 

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 19, 2025, 04:39:57 PMGavin Cobb can back up receivers and returners, if an import receiver goes down for more than a game they  pull his replacement off the PR, same scenario happened last season when Lawler and Schoen went down. Based on vibes, if Wheatfall isn't cut outright I expect he's headed for the PR along along a few other receivers, maybe Kody Case and Gassama. 


I think Cobb has a decent chance to make the AR for depth needed as a receiver regardless of who takes the returner role.

Wheatfall and Case are going to be hard pressed with rookie competition and may not want or be offered a PR spot. Not sure what to think about Gassama. He might take a PR spot.

Let's see who rotates into the pre-season games and who makes an impression. Due to injuries, there are some spots on the AR that might have not be open otherwise.
One game at a time.

BomberFan73

When do we have our 1st scrimm - anyone know?

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 04:49:04 PMI think Cobb has a decent chance to make the AR for depth needed as a receiver regardless of who takes the returner role.

Wheatfall and Case are going to be hard pressed with rookie competition and may not want or be offered a PR spot. Not sure what to think about Gassama. He might take a PR spot.

Let's see who rotates into the pre-season games and who makes an impression. Due to injuries, there are some spots on the AR that might have not be open otherwise.

I expect Cobb to take over Augustine's role on ST as the second returner and may even play on the pursuit team if he's capable of doing so.

GOLDMEMBER

Just left camp for a Monday.
Quite brisk to say the least!

Brady and Lawson were in street wear.

Schoen was a full participant including a nice grab on a deep post.

Sterns was most impressive! Multiple nice deep grabs in the howling wind and offered great separation. Excited to see him Saturday.

Joey Corcoran had a couple real nice catches as well.

Streveler had no knee brace and had real nice touch on the ball for a few deeper shots.

Zach was Zach. Very accurate. Again in the blustery chilly wind.


Wilson seemed hesitant to pull the trigger at times.

OL displayed some real good push in a few running plays. Chris-Ike showed great burst as did Matthew Peterson.

Cody case had a real nice burst on the draw play the executed perfectly by the OL but was stripped of the ball 25 yards down field. Might of been Ayers who stripped it but couldn't get the full number.


DBs, Vaval had a real nice break up and displayed nice burst on punt returns.
Parker had nice coverage a couple times to.

DL had solid consistent pressure as a unit with Willie was getting in RBs grills early. Nice push on the interior tough to see who though.

Wallace should be a real gamer. Opened some nice holes for the ball carriers.

Devin Adams sure brings vocal energy pre snap! lol

Considering it felt like late fall out there today I'm sure the coaches were impressed with the energy and plays made.
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

Blue In BC

Thanks for the detailed update.

Glad Schoen is back. That answers one question at receiver. There have some earlier Kudos for Sterns making an impression. I thought he'd be the odd man out between D.Mitchell and White but they are hardly mentioned.

OTOH, M. Mitchell and a few others are sounding good.
One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 19, 2025, 03:43:59 PMLogan was going to be the returner so I can't totally agree that wasn't the plan.

We have a bunch of unknown's. Case wasn't any good in 2024 and neither was M. Mitchell in either the return game or as a receiver. That may have forced another look at who fills what role.

Again, if we go 3 import OL, that takes away one more option in the ratio. However, even then our imports have tended to be on the defensive side of the roster.

Add to that Schoen might still be out for awhile and we have to replace the other import receivers.

So who would you pick as back up receivers
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We'll see when camp's over I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a running back though.

Pigskin

Actually Kody Case wasn't that bad last year on KR. I think he just needed a little more playing time to get his timing down. 

Case: 10.5 PR avg. 25.2 KR avg. Longest 38 yards.

Logan: 13.5 PR avg. 22.7 KR avg. Longest 42 yards.

Lucky: 11.1 PR avg. 21.7 KR avg. Longest 40 yards.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Mike

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 19, 2025, 07:19:22 PMWe'll see when camp's over I guess. I'm pretty sure it won't be a running back though.

Yeah, I don't get this logic at all. Our roster isn't going to be built to rely on Logan as a backup receiver just because he also does kick returns.

The way we are trending, it seems like we're going to have plenty of options for how we want to deploy our DI, since we have a bunch of Canadians in key depth spots. Wouldn't be surprised to see us use exclusively Cobb/Corcoran as game day backups, although the emphasis we've placed on depth pieces on offense would suggest maybe we're content to roll a DI out on O over and above Logan.

Also just depends on if we bother to (which we better) actually use the roster rules to our advantage this year, because if we don't, it's probably going to keep a guy like Ayers off the field and there's really no need for that.