2025 Free Agency (other CFL teams Signings/News)

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on March 07, 2025, 04:16:41 PMWhat surprised me was Streveler re-signing after Woli was cut.

Wasn't the timing that Strev signed first then it slipped out no deal for Woli?  Both were almost certainly expecting a Woli re-sign.

I could be wrong on the timing.  As someone else said, Strevy probably has no value outside WFC.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on March 07, 2025, 05:47:25 PMFalcons not offering Dee Alford a new deal.

Personally I'd be all over Alford at Nichols/Holm money (maybe a bit more).  But not at Ford money.

However, I know KW doesn't like to tie up that much $ at DB, which is a "dime a dozen" spot.  However however, our DB corps would be devastating to O's if we had our current roster + Alford.

We haven't won a cup since Alford left.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 07, 2025, 06:46:48 PMMeh, Clercius hasn't shown much yet, he seems to be a reliable target and has good size for blocking, but haven't seen him make a spectacular catch or run yet nor demonstrate the ability to break off a play when needed and put himself in position to help Zach out. This season will be his big chance to show his worth, right now he's trending towards Cory Watson, a solid if not spectacular support receiver.

Or JFG!  Saying Woli was just another NAT WR is completely wrong.  Besides Demski, who is more like an IMP-level, Woli is the best wide-out, hiding-the-NAT-REC we've had in forever.

The only reason you let Woli walk this season is if you think he's going to be tub-bound most of it.  Mafia could be "sensing the end" of his career.

If Woli is 100% then he's worth at least what we paid him last year.  Clercius hasn't done half of what Woli showed.  Woli could make circus catches, to a degree.  Woli would lay out for them.  Woli was a legit EZ threat.  Woli could catch the rail go route that JFG *never* caught in WPG.  Woli could play inside and take the 2nd down beatings to move the sticks.

The only thing Clercius has shown to date is he's big, decent blocker, decent-to-good hands.  Compared to Woli he hasn't shown squat.  He's just way younger and cheaper.  It's a gamble.  We hope it pays off.
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theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 10, 2025, 07:56:44 AMOr JFG!  Saying Woli was just another NAT WR is completely wrong.  Besides Demski, who is more like an IMP-level, Woli is the best wide-out, hiding-the-NAT-REC we've had in forever.

The only reason you let Woli walk this season is if you think he's going to be tub-bound most of it.  Mafia could be "sensing the end" of his career.

If Woli is 100% then he's worth at least what we paid him last year.  Clercius hasn't done half of what Woli showed.  Woli could make circus catches, to a degree.  Woli would lay out for them.  Woli was a legit EZ threat.  Woli could catch the rail go route that JFG *never* caught in WPG.  Woli could play inside and take the 2nd down beatings to move the sticks.

The only thing Clercius has shown to date is he's big, decent blocker, decent-to-good hands.  Compared to Woli he hasn't shown squat.  He's just way younger and cheaper.  It's a gamble.  We hope it pays off.


Clercius was 32 of 40, with 11 yd average and 1 td.  Woli was 33 of 47 with a 12.2 avg and 1 td.

Clercius had 10 games where he did not drop a ball that was thrown at him.

As a rookie.

Decent hands?  I'd hate to see what someone would have to do to be considered as having good or great hands.

Yes, he needs time to learn the scramble rules and have them become as second nature as the Woli/Zac duo had after 5 years.  The Mafia obviously thinks he can do that.

Anxious to see what he can do after a full year under his belt.  With a FT role on the O, will he still play teams?
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Comparing a rookie to a seasoned veteran on equal terms is illogical.
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What a craptacular timeline.

markf

Alford....

I followed the Falcons a bit, mostly for the laughs, but their secondary was quite bad last season.


dd

Woli suffered a couple of serious injuries this season and I am certain that is what lead to his release. Also, Clercius has shown very well, and is bigger, stronger, healthier and cheaper. It's a tough call, but the right call

Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: theaardvark on March 10, 2025, 02:31:06 PMClercius was 32 of 40, with 11 yd average and 1 td.  Woli was 33 of 47 with a 12.2 avg and 1 td.

Clercius had 10 games where he did not drop a ball that was thrown at him.

As a rookie.

Decent hands?  I'd hate to see what someone would have to do to be considered as having good or great hands.

Yes, he needs time to learn the scramble rules and have them become as second nature as the Woli/Zac duo had after 5 years.  The Mafia obviously thinks he can do that.

Anxious to see what he can do after a full year under his belt.  With a FT role on the O, will he still play teams?

Stats. are stats, but if Woli would have been healthy for the GC 100% he would have started in front of Clercius, still I agree Clercius is the future and Woli was the past. 

Woli had luck on his side as it's questionable whether he would have had a CFL career if it wasn't for his random tie to Canadian citizenship.  As a rookie Import receiver competing against the best, if even invited to tryout, he's likely cut as TCF and never heard from again. 

TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on March 10, 2025, 02:31:06 PMClercius was 32 of 40, with 11 yd average and 1 td.  Woli was 33 of 47 with a 12.2 avg and 1 td.

Raw stats mean nothing when Woli was injured most of the season.  What was the per game stats?

Quote from: theaardvark on March 10, 2025, 02:31:06 PMDecent hands?  I'd hate to see what someone would have to do to be considered as having good or great hands.

By hands I meant the Burnham/Kenny ability to catch anything within an 5 yard radius of where their body is located when the ball arrives.  We haven't seen Clercius make a single diving or gumby catch.

Yes, he seems to make the catches thrown to the right spot.  Yes, he seems to hang on, and seems to be able to take punishment.  That is all good.

But no one would say he has "great hands" like we always said about Burnham.

At least, not yet.

We can be optimistic that he maintains his current level and adds some circus to it.  My point was even Woli had a few circus catches over his career: some @IGF to great applause!
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Pete

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 10, 2025, 03:20:43 PMStats. are stats, but if Woli would have been healthy for the GC 100% he would have started in front of Clercius, still I agree Clercius is the future and Woli was the past. 

Woli had luck on his side as it's questionable whether he would have had a CFL career if it wasn't for his random tie to Canadian citizenship.  As a rookie Import receiver competing against the best, if even invited to tryout, he's likely cut as TCF and never heard from again. 

Personally i think its for the best had we kept Woli O'SHea's MO is to play the veteran, and CLercius would have had limited reps.  Clercius can be real good if given the reps.

dd

There's no doubt Woli was a favourite amongst fans and teammates, but injuries and age have caught up to him, just like they did with BA and AB. Its tough to move on and make the transition, but its an unfortunate fact of life in pro sports.

Blue In BC

Quote from: dd on March 11, 2025, 04:41:26 PMThere's no doubt Woli was a favourite amongst fans and teammates, but injuries and age have caught up to him, just like they did with BA and AB. Its tough to move on and make the transition, but its an unfortunate fact of life in pro sports.

Yeah, all of that is true. For every decision like this taken it's a risk analysis. The real question becomes whether we add a player that gives us a younger, more SMS friendly depth player.

There are always lots of moving parts. Free agent acquisitions, ratio considerations and trade possibilities. Time will tell whether the right decision was made. Hindsight is always 100%.

I wouldn't have been upset in retaining Woli but understand the other factors. It's too bad in the sense of fan favourite player no longer with the team. However, rosters tend to have about a 30% turnover each off season. That includes starters, depth and favourites.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Blue In BC on March 11, 2025, 04:59:38 PMYeah, all of that is true. For every decision like this taken it's a risk analysis. The real question becomes whether we add a player that gives us a younger, more SMS friendly depth player.

There are always lots of moving parts. Free agent acquisitions, ratio considerations and trade possibilities. Time will tell whether the right decision was made. Hindsight is always 100%.

I wouldn't have been upset in retaining Woli but understand the other factors. It's too bad in the sense of fan favourite player no longer with the team. However, rosters tend to have about a 30% turnover each off season. That includes starters, depth and favourites.

Football is not a game that allows players to finish their careers off with storybook endings very often, Walters has been lethal at cutting short playing career of many great players. He slammed the door shut on Dressler, Matt Nichols, Darvin Adams, Harris, Medlock, Jeffcoat, Bailey, Bighill, BA, and now Woli.  For Willy, Jake and Stanley the chopping block awaits if they hang around too long. Of course some carried on with other teams for brief interludes but none ever returned to the form they established as Bombers, except maybe Marc Liegghio! :D .

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 11, 2025, 06:29:05 PMFootball is not a game that allows players to finish their careers off with storybook endings very often, Walters has been lethal at cutting short playing career of many great players.

This is so true.  I always thought Can Mafia as more of a "nice guy" group -- KW comes off in pressers as such a quiet guy -- but they are pretty ruthless with the cuts.  Way more than I could ever be!!

I get it, but man that must be hard.  And it leaves a lot of sour tastes in player mouths, especially coupled with the "no / low contact" approach we hear about so often.

That said, I've never heard of it being any "better" in other clubs, so I guess it's what players expect league-wide.  It's a horrible industry if you stand back and look at it through just this lens!
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 11, 2025, 06:29:05 PMHe slammed the door shut on Dressler, Matt Nichols, Darvin Adams, Harris, Medlock, Jeffcoat, Bailey, Bighill, BA, and now Woli.

By that logic, every other GM who chooses not to offer their free agents a new contract is slamming the door shut on those players...? I disagree with that interpretation. The reality is this is just the nature of the business in pro sports. The Canadian Mafia is no exception from what I can tell, but this organization does seem by and large to treat its players as well any in the CFL.

Walters' job - like eight other GMs in this league - is to put together an optimal roster in terms of talent and depth. Those are complicated decisions, which means it's sometimes prudent to move on from certain players. And that includes long-time veterans, fan favourites, and even "face of the franchise" types who are simply past their before before date.

Of all those players you listed, I think Jeffcoat was the most puzzling decision. I don't know what took place in private between the two parties but I think he should've been retained. The rest seemed like sensible moves at the time.
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What a craptacular timeline.