Bombers @ Argos

Started by Blue In BC, July 21, 2024, 03:50:22 PM

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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 23, 2024, 05:25:19 AMWhenever I accidentally feel optimistic about my Bombers, all I have to do is read a DM83 post!  The occasions I go out on that ledge, it's comforting to know DM83 is always there first.

I'm pretty sure we let every teams' Rs be open by 5 yards.  It's the WPG D way!   :P

Not if we assign a speedy spy.  Of course, that assumes MOS doesn't follow his "we don't need a spy if everyone follows their assignments" mantra...

Haha, he's not anywhere that bad!  So long as he doesn't do the hungry-belly rub, he gets a long leash.   :D  :D  :D

C.Jones as DC?!  Ok, now you've hit cuckoo territory.  No one wants that loser.  Not to mention, bringing in a big-name DC is impossible given that we gave the whole wad to MOS and Buck.  Younger is DC because he is working for peanuts to get his foot in the door (as is Miller).  Hey, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying it's reality.

I'd welcome Lapo back at OC, too, but no one other than us two will!  (That said, weren't you one of the Lapo-bashers before he left?)
Please, no LAPO. The only way we could be more predictable than we are now is to bring LAPO back. Buck is already a LAPO disciple and it's extremely annoying as we have little to no creativity on offense. Why would anyone want to make that even worse?
Go Bombers!

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Pigskin on July 23, 2024, 04:16:51 AMI was talking about in the off season, when ZC8 still had value. Dru Brown was our future QB. Just like AH33, everyone has an expiry date.
Very few would have kept Dru over Zach.  So easy to say after.  Also Dru isn't proven (yet).  Comparing Zach to AH33 isn't fair.  AH33 was injury prone late stage of his career and we already had an excellent replacement.  Full disclosure I love all three of these guys!
Quote from: Pigskin on July 23, 2024, 04:25:22 AMI disagree, there a few different players that saved this team. That group is no longer together. WJ5, JJ94, AH33, AB4, SB66, ZC8. Unfortunately for most of these players there best years are behind them. 
We needed a star QB and Zach was that.  It's a QB driven league.  Zach saved the team to be sure but yes those other names (and a bunch of others) were certainly key pieces.  No Zach or other star QB no cups (most likely).  Yes we have some stars that are getting old but don't count them all out yet.  Still time for one last push.

Easy to pile on the Bombers and Zach when they are down.  We got some cracks in our armor but lets give it a few more games before we write the story for this year.  Last week was a huge let down, lets see if we get some hope back.

Waffler

Paraphrasing from coaches show: Case will get another chance. Lucky is learning and that is not a one or two week process.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
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Everything seems stupid when it fails.  - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Waffler

Quote from: markf on July 23, 2024, 12:40:57 AMZach Collaros saved the team.

Trading him would have been wrong.
Buono was infamous for being ruthless with players. You could look at it the other way too. We saved him with a ready made team just lacking a vet QB.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
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Everything seems stupid when it fails.  - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Pete

OShea has always relied heavily on the leadership of his vets to drive the team. The problem is when the vets can no longer walk the talk. We need some of the younger "vets" to step up leadership wise. I'm talking about Kyrie Wilson, Nichols, Olivera, Holm.
 Its also a time when O'Shea himself needs to lead, and make decisions to improve this team. It's no longer business as usual.

Slingin Sammy

I was at practise today (July 23rd).  Here are some observations

6 game injured list players: None of them including Lawler practised.  Fox and Haba were running.  Lawson is nowhere near a return.  He was gingerly trying to make his way up the stands backwards with other injured players. 

1 game injured list players: Kelly and Samson practised.

New injuries: Wilson and Cole.  Oliveira didn't practise but likely maintenance.  BA didn't practise (not sure if he's maintenance or some other issue).

KR/PR: Case got the 1st reps, followed by Smith and then Whitehead.  Case likely remains KR/PR and backup receiver.

Offence and receivers: No changes other than Augustine and Smith getting reps with 1s in BOs absence.  Whitehead did not get any first team reps.  Highly unlikely he draws into the lineup.

Defence: Some interesting changes in BAs absence.  Nichols slid over to safety; Bridges at boundary half.  Jones in at WIL for Wilson. Griffin in for Cole. D Line rotation remained the same as last week with Garbutt and Jefferson on the ends.

Grymes slotted in with the 2s at boundary halfback.  He was picking BAs brain throughout the practice.

Not sure if the alignment with Nichols at safety is something they're going to try, but it would explain picking up Grymes.  It's also curious that they wouldn't have slotted in one of the Hallets if this was just filling in for BA while he takes a maintenance day.

Zach was up and down.  Threw some nice balls but also some bad picks to Kelly and Bonds.  Seemed hesitant at times when going up against scout D.

I can't make it out to any other practices this week so it will be interesting to see if the changes on D at the start of the week translate into game day/roster changes

Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together.

Jesse

Quote from: Waffler on July 23, 2024, 02:44:50 PMParaphrasing from coaches show: Case will get another chance. Lucky is learning and that is not a one or two week process.

It really is though.
My wife is amazing!

Blueforlife

Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2024, 07:25:14 PMIt really is though.
So you know more than the coaches now?

Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 23, 2024, 07:26:49 PMSo you know more than the coaches now?

I'm just repeating what many football players have said when they join new teams. MOS does not answer questions at face value. He self-admittedly reveals nothing.so I'm going to believe what I've heard many, many times over MOS's version.
My wife is amazing!

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2024, 07:30:31 PMI'm just repeating what many football players have said when they join new teams. MOS does not answer questions at face value. He self-admittedly reveals nothing.so I'm going to believe what I've heard many, many times over MOS's version.
A player out of football for a long time will take a lot of reps to be ready.  It's a good approach imo.  Avoids injury and ensure he knows the plays.  I trust MOS on this one 100%.  Agree a couple weeks is ok in ideal situation.

Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 23, 2024, 07:37:21 PMA player out of football for a long time will take a lot of reps to be ready.  It's a good approach imo.  Avoids injury and ensure he knows the plays.  I trust MOS on this one 100%.

I think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.
My wife is amazing!

Blueforlife

Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2024, 07:39:21 PMI think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.
Hard to say, I can't comment as I don't know how he has looked at practice.

Blueforlife


Slingin Sammy

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Quote from: Jesse on July 23, 2024, 07:39:21 PMI think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.

I tend to agree.  Having watched some practises for the past 3 weeks, I really don't think there are plans to insert Lucky.  The way he's being treated reminds me of when we picked up N Roosevelt a few years back and never rostered him.

If Case gets injured, Whitehead would have a 50/50 chance of being rostered...depends on whether MOS believes Smith can serve as a backup receiver in that scenario IMHO. 

Unless there's a path to the roster through ST, I don't think at this point MOS places him above our other Imp PR receivers Alston and Mitchell on the depth chart. 
Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together.

Pigskin

Well I we missed practice today. Last day with my grandson's before they head off to the Olympics for a couple of weeks. Maybe Waffler will have a report for us today. 
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.