Bombers @ Argos

[Waffler]

Paraphrasing from coaches show: Case will get another chance. Lucky is learning and that is not a one or two week process.

[Waffler]

Zach Collaros saved the team.

Trading him would have been wrong.

Buono was infamous for being ruthless with players. You could look at it the other way too. We saved him with a ready made team just lacking a vet QB.

[Pete]

OShea has always relied heavily on the leadership of his vets to drive the team. The problem is when the vets can no longer walk the talk. We need some of the younger "vets" to step up leadership wise. I'm talking about Kyrie Wilson, Nichols, Olivera, Holm.
 Its also a time when O'Shea himself needs to lead, and make decisions to improve this team. It's no longer business as usual.

[Slingin Sammy]

I was at practise today (July 23rd).  Here are some observations

6 game injured list players: None of them including Lawler practised.  Fox and Haba were running.  Lawson is nowhere near a return.  He was gingerly trying to make his way up the stands backwards with other injured players. 

1 game injured list players: Kelly and Samson practised.

New injuries: Wilson and Cole.  Oliveira didn't practise but likely maintenance.  BA didn't practise (not sure if he's maintenance or some other issue).

KR/PR: Case got the 1st reps, followed by Smith and then Whitehead.  Case likely remains KR/PR and backup receiver.

Offence and receivers: No changes other than Augustine and Smith getting reps with 1s in BOs absence.  Whitehead did not get any first team reps.  Highly unlikely he draws into the lineup.

Defence: Some interesting changes in BAs absence.  Nichols slid over to safety; Bridges at boundary half.  Jones in at WIL for Wilson. Griffin in for Cole. D Line rotation remained the same as last week with Garbutt and Jefferson on the ends.

Grymes slotted in with the 2s at boundary halfback.  He was picking BAs brain throughout the practice.

Not sure if the alignment with Nichols at safety is something they're going to try, but it would explain picking up Grymes.  It's also curious that they wouldn't have slotted in one of the Hallets if this was just filling in for BA while he takes a maintenance day.

Zach was up and down.  Threw some nice balls but also some bad picks to Kelly and Bonds.  Seemed hesitant at times when going up against scout D.

I can't make it out to any other practices this week so it will be interesting to see if the changes on D at the start of the week translate into game day/roster changes

[Jesse]

Paraphrasing from coaches show: Case will get another chance. Lucky is learning and that is not a one or two week process.

It really is though.

[Blueforlife]

It really is though.

So you know more than the coaches now?

[Jesse]

So you know more than the coaches now?

I'm just repeating what many football players have said when they join new teams. MOS does not answer questions at face value. He self-admittedly reveals nothing.so I'm going to believe what I've heard many, many times over MOS's version.

[Blueforlife]

I'm just repeating what many football players have said when they join new teams. MOS does not answer questions at face value. He self-admittedly reveals nothing.so I'm going to believe what I've heard many, many times over MOS's version.

A player out of football for a long time will take a lot of reps to be ready.  It's a good approach imo.  Avoids injury and ensure he knows the plays.  I trust MOS on this one 100%.  Agree a couple weeks is ok in ideal situation.

[Jesse]

A player out of football for a long time will take a lot of reps to be ready.  It's a good approach imo.  Avoids injury and ensure he knows the plays.  I trust MOS on this one 100%.

I think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.

[Blueforlife]

I think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.

Hard to say, I can't comment as I don't know how he has looked at practice.

[Blueforlife]

Injury report

[Slingin Sammy]

I think it's far more likely that MOS doesn't intend to use Lucky unless necessary. I don't see this as a plan to bring Lucky into that starting line-up.

I tend to agree.  Having watched some practises for the past 3 weeks, I really don't think there are plans to insert Lucky.  The way he's being treated reminds me of when we picked up N Roosevelt a few years back and never rostered him.

If Case gets injured, Whitehead would have a 50/50 chance of being rostered...depends on whether MOS believes Smith can serve as a backup receiver in that scenario IMHO. 

Unless there's a path to the roster through ST, I don't think at this point MOS places him above our other Imp PR receivers Alston and Mitchell on the depth chart. 

[Pigskin]

Well I we missed practice today. Last day with my grandson's before they head off to the Olympics for a couple of weeks. Maybe Waffler will have a report for us today. 

[Pete]

I tend to agree.  Having watched some practises for the past 3 weeks, I really don't think there are plans to insert Lucky.  The way he's being treated reminds me of when we picked up N Roosevelt a few years back and never rostered him.

If Case gets injured, Whitehead would have a 50/50 chance of being rostered...depends on whether MOS believes Smith can serve as a backup receiver in that scenario IMHO. 

Unless there's a path to the roster through ST, I don't think at this point MOS places him above our other Imp PR receivers Rolston and Mitchell on the depth chart. 

 Putting in Lucky makes it feel like O'Shea is wrong with Johnson or Clercius, O'Shea has a tendency to stay stubborn in these situations to prove who is the smartest. There have been numerous cases of this Ie Jackson< Hurl, Alexander etc. I would argue  that's why we haven't brought in more of an upgrade to Kramdl and Thomas. Likely the only way lucky is an option is thru injury.

[Slingin Sammy]

Well I we missed practice today. Last day with my grandson's before they head off to the Olympics for a couple of weeks. Maybe Waffler will have a report for us today. 

I was at practise today (July 23rd).  Here are some observations

6 game injured list players: None of them including Lawler practised.  Fox and Haba were running.  Lawson is nowhere near a return.  He was gingerly trying to make his way up the stands backwards with other injured players. 

1 game injured list players: Kelly and Samson practised.

New injuries: Wilson and Cole.  Oliveira didn't practise but likely maintenance.  BA didn't practise (not sure if he's maintenance or some other issue).

KR/PR: Case got the 1st reps, followed by Smith and then Whitehead.  Case likely remains KR/PR and backup receiver.

Offence and receivers: No changes other than Augustine and Smith getting reps with 1s in BOs absence.  Whitehead did not get any first team reps.  Highly unlikely he draws into the lineup.

Defence: Some interesting changes in BAs absence.  Nichols slid over to safety; Bridges at boundary half.  Jones in at WIL for Wilson. Griffin in for Cole. D Line rotation remained the same as last week with Garbutt and Jefferson on the ends.

Grymes slotted in with the 2s at boundary halfback.  He was picking BAs brain throughout the practice.

Not sure if the alignment with Nichols at safety is something they're going to try, but it would explain picking up Grymes.  It's also curious that they wouldn't have slotted in one of the Hallets if this was just filling in for BA while he takes a maintenance day.

Zach was up and down.  Threw some nice balls but also some bad picks to Kelly and Bonds.  Seemed hesitant at times when going up against scout D.

I can't make it out to any other practices this week so it will be interesting to see if the changes on D at the start of the week translate into game day/roster changes