Started by theaardvark, May 06, 2022, 02:56:55 PM
QuoteIn the CFL?s proposal to date, a number of key issues still concern your bargaining committee: ? A ten-year agreement with zero increases in the cap. ? A revenue sharing program which will not likely show any significant growth by the CFL?s own accord, until the TSN contract is renewed in five years? Although earlier discussions around guaranteed contracts were held, the CFL has now removed the PA?s proposal to allow players to negotiate guaranteed contracts.? The CFL demands our members go back to padded practices, even with a decrease of 35% of on-field injuries, yet refuses to support our proposal for coverage for those same on field injuries.? Various proposals on the table aimed at what appears to be an effort to try to lock as many players as they can into contracts.? Full elimination of the Canadian ratio and Veteran American Ratio. As well as a reduction of Canadians on the Roster. ? The league wants full discretion on practice time that varies during the week (increasing and decreasing hours). Which will create lack of certainty for members.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 06, 2022, 03:53:26 PMIt's the CFL. A deal will get done. The players can't afford not to play and the teams can't either. If I had to straight up guess, a few of the league's hardline positions seem to be in there to allow the players to feel they've got a "good" deal. No way the league thinks the players will sign a 10 year deal with no escalations. I doubt the league truly wants to reimplement padded practices, but threating to take it away and then giving it back might be a decent bargaining ploy. I am hopeful that the ratio gets dramatically reduced but we all know there's mostly disagreement on here with me about that. Either way, I'm glad to see it on the table even though I doubt that is entirely sincere either although perhaps they can get it further reduced. If they could ever get it so there are less than 50% of Canadians in the PA it would make it far easier in negotiations to slam through in a future CBA.
Quote from: the paw on May 06, 2022, 04:31:17 PMThe loss of the ratio will sacrifice the main competitive advantage that the CFL has, and the gradual diluting of the ratio any further that it already has been, will just make it a lingering death. Its a real short term view, based on some misguided belief that a faster, higher scoring game with gimmicky rules will hold fan interest more than national identity. It's deluded thinking and not based on the evidence of many years.Think, if you will, about what the extinguishing of the ratio would have meant to earlier eras. Ask yourself the following questions:1. Statistically, James Murphy was a better and more productive receiver than Joe Poplawski. I love James Murphy and the fact that he settled in Winnipeg and made a home here. But does anyone truly believe that he enjoys a higher regard with the fans than Joe Pop?2. Without the ratio, I doubt anyone would have invested the time and effort to convert a defensive lineman from Div 2 Dickinson State into an offensive lineman. Chris Walby went on to become one of the best OTs in the history of the CFL, but without the ratio he probably doesn't get to start his storied career.3. Does anyone really think Nic Demski would have been able to stick around to develop after his first 3 years in the league? He is a top notch talent now, but without the ratio, he most likely goes the way of Charles Nelson or a thousand other receivers who were moved on from after a slow start. 4. Rick House put up 8000 yards as a CFL receiver. He was buried on special teams until he developed. No way he has that career without the ratio.5. Estimate the percentage of fan discussion dedicated to ratio management, projecting the 7 starters, the draft, which player may "go home" in free agency etc. Probably at least half of the off-season discussion revolves around that. Heck, with no ratio, is there even a reason to have a Canadian draft? Probably not. 6. Do Kyle Walters and Mike O'Shea become football executives/coaches at the professional level without the ratio? Probably not, as neither of them would likely have had a professional football career without it. Without that entry into the league, both those guys are probably selling insurance or real estate. I could go on, but I'm either preaching to the choir or talking past people who don't accept the premise. But I think it is an absolute disgrace that Wade Miller is leading a negotiating committee that takes this stance. If he has convinced himself that fans want to relinquish the leagues national identity so we can get a couple more NFL cuts who can run a 4.4 40, then he has forgotten where he came from. If this CBA guts the ratio, that finishes me. I kept my season tickets last year, even though I didn't attend a single game, because I wanted to support the team. A game that relegates Canadian content to special team duty has no interest for me. If I want to watch all Americans, I'll watch the best Americans. Giving up the "game day event" isn't a huge sacrifice for me, I go to 9 games in person a year, but I watch about 60. I can convert my ticket spend into a speciality channel that will give me as much NFL content as I can handle. Maybe I'm a relic, but I think if the CFL believes that they can replace a fan like me with some Gen-Z kid who wants to bet the over-under on sacks from his phone, I think they are going to be disappointed.
Quote from: Waffler on May 06, 2022, 05:43:48 PMA strike in pre-season would not surprise me. Losing league games would though.The CFL is just asking for too much. How do you even negotiate with that "offer"? Not much time left and we are miles apart.