Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-game

Started by Pigskin, October 11, 2026, 01:29:57 PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on October 11, 2026, 10:17:58 PMBrady didn't get the rock, because Zach decided to change the play calls all game. I would venture to guess many plays were to go to Brady, but Zach decided f...it...I am doing things my way off what I see, and that is why our offence looked so different.....It was adlibbed by Zach vs. called by Condell.....

Yah Zach was calling his own shots often and going deep is his favourite number.  It worked for this game but we've seen many times when the DB's are expecting Zach to throw deep the results have been mixed with too many interceptions. I guess he should play how he wants in the final few games and we'll see where it takes them, focusing on Singer likely won't work that well again.

Tecno

Quote from: Blueforlife on October 11, 2026, 05:20:48 PMI think by design to test Calgary's weak D and they did have changes on the back end, they were stacking the box and Zach go his man coverage down field and took what they were giving him.  We obviously also game planned this

Zach said on the ob post game that the whole game was basically rpo or Brady fakes.

I really didn't notice Zach sending Brady out like dru did so much. Good. Sending Brady out is stupid.

So Brady is still integral even if we don't give it to him.
Never go full Johnston!

Blueforlife

Quote from: Tecno on October 11, 2026, 11:39:08 PMZach said on the ob post game that the whole game was basically rpo or Brady fakes.

I really didn't notice Zach sending Brady out like dru did so much. Good. Sending Brady out is stupid.

So Brady is still integral even if we don't give it to him.
Sending Brady out is one of the worst plays I have seen, mostly because of the frequency they did it earlier in the season.  Were you able to steal and burn those pages?

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 11, 2026, 10:43:04 PMWe know Brady is better and that's not the point. There are several issues including the fact he is nursing an injury and not practising.

From a game plan point of view, you can't do the same thing all the time and not expect the opponent to take it away from the offence.

Peterson is probably a better RB than MCI but doesn't play ST's.

If Brady gets knocked out of a game I suspect we'll have zero run game. That's the point and why we need Peterson on the roster.

Last year in game 1 Brady was knocked out of the game after 3 plays. Peterson was on the roster and rushed for 130 yards.


I don't doubt Peterson would be decent.  Just not worth the roster spot.  MCI would be a reasonable fill in but would be limited to shorter gains but he and Daniels could screen.

Blue In BC

#19
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 12:19:56 AMI don't doubt Peterson would be decent.  Just not worth the roster spot.  MCI would be a reasonable fill in but would be limited to shorter gains but he and Daniels could screen.

MCI has 8 carries in 3 seasons for 81 yards in total. He has 4 receptions for 32 yard in that time.
One game at a time

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 01:18:33 PMMCI has 8 carries in 3 seasons for 81 yards in total. He has 4 receptions for 32 yard in that time.
And he is on the roster because he can block and plays teams (12 tackles).  Like most FBs isn't used much but in a pinch would do ok.

Peterson would take someone off the AR that is more important than an insurance policy at RB.

Sir Blue and Gold

#21
Guys, the reason we didn't hand it to Brady is because everyone plays our offense downhill, through the middle and taking away the short/intermediate passes.

This is because Brady can only run on the interior and up until now, our passing game has largely been short/medium passing because the pass protection is horrendous and Collaros/Brown aren't very good at pushing the ball down field. Collaros because he's old and rickety and Brown because it's never been his main strength.

The reason we were cooking in the first half is we essentially flipped the script by doing, pretty successfully, what we aren't very good at: deep shots down the field into one on one coverage because the defense wasn't scheming that.

Is it sustainable or even repeatable? Not sure. Probably not. But it may help you cost out whether Brady is worth the gold bricks we pay him if one of our best offensive outputs of the year was basically deploying him as decoy. And he still managed to fumble the freaking ball.

The reason we haven't been very good this year is because we're not very good. It was a fun game at stadium but there's a reason we don't typically go with that formula. It's not likely sustainable to do what we're not good at and win.

Pigskin

MP22: 66/329 yards, 5 yard avg. He's capable of stepping in for Brady when Brady is injured. MCI has outstanding speed, but is another young Bomber that is under utilized. With MCIs speed and size he has become one of our better teams players.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

gobombersgo

From Dave Campbell:

#Elks are on the field for their first day a prep for the regular season home finale vs. Blue Bombers.  OL David Beard, DL Silas Hubert, and DE DK Bonhomme are not participating after suffering injuries in Friday's win over the Tiger-Cats.  DB Kordell Jackson is not on field as well.

RB Javon Leake and REC TJ Luther are on the field and are getting closer to a return.

Blueforlife

Quote from: gobombersgo on Today at 05:51:09 PMFrom Dave Campbell:

#Elks are on the field for their first day a prep for the regular season home finale vs. Blue Bombers.  OL David Beard, DL Silas Hubert, and DE DK Bonhomme are not participating after suffering injuries in Friday's win over the Tiger-Cats.  DB Kordell Jackson is not on field as well.

RB Javon Leake and REC TJ Luther are on the field and are getting closer to a return.
Beard would be a big deal if out.  Those two guys on offense are pretty good.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 03:37:46 PMGuys, the reason we didn't hand it to Brady is because everyone plays our offense downhill, through the middle and taking away the short/intermediate passes.

This is because Brady can only run on the interior and up until now, our passing game has largely been short/medium passing because the pass protection is horrendous and Collaros/Brown aren't very good at pushing the ball down field. Collaros because he's old and rickety and Brown because it's never been his main strength.

The reason we were cooking in the first half is we essentially flipped the script by doing, pretty successfully, what we aren't very good at: deep shots down the field into one on one coverage because the defense wasn't scheming that.

Is it sustainable or even repeatable? Not sure. Probably not. But it may help you cost out whether Brady is worth the gold bricks we pay him if one of our best offensive outputs of the year was basically deploying him as decoy. And he still managed to fumble the freaking ball.

The reason we haven't been very good this year is because we're not very good. It was a fun game at stadium but there's a reason we don't typically go with that formula. It's not likely sustainable to do what we're not good at and win.

Yeah that's an issue with both MOS and Condell. We don't even seem to consider using other players as part of the offence that are on the AR like MCI. Demski has been nicked most of the year so he's seeing less activity on run plays as well.

I'd be curious to see an breakdown of A gap, B gap or C gap runs. Teams know where our runs will go and when we need it the most they take it away.
One game at a time

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 06:32:50 PMYeah that's an issue with both MOS and Condell. We don't even seem to consider using other players as part of the offence that are on the AR like MCI. Demski has been nicked most of the year so he's seeing less activity on run plays as well.

I'd be curious to see an breakdown of A gap, B gap or C gap runs. Teams know where our runs will go and when we need it the most they take it away.

I could see Demski hanging it up after next season, especially if Zach is no longer around to feed him.  Have to find a few Natl's that can contribute as offensive weapons, the league is full of them but the cupboard is bare in Wpg.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 07:25:03 PMSo you can accuse me of lying and fake news and it's not a personal attack but I do it and it is a personal attack.
I have defended myself, reputation and position by pointing out you were saying things about me that were not true.  There was no personal shot by either of us.  You presented lies / fake news about me (Brady topic) and you have consistently done this in the past (while asking you to stop).  Not accusations, just facts.  Ah well, I believe we can agree to disagree and focus the discussions here about pre game discussions.  90% of our interactions are great, I think we can change the channel here please.

I did not say you took personal shot (this time). I simply called you out on saying non factual things about me and my position.  Zero value and merit in you doing so now, in the past or future.

tlf

Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 07:29:22 PMI have defended myself, reputation and position by pointing out you were saying things about me that are not true.  There was no personal shot by either of us.  You presented lies / fake news about me (Brady topic) and you have consistently done this in the past (while asking you to stop).  Not accusations, just facts.  Ah well, I believe we can agree to disagree and focus the discussions here about pre game discussions.  90% of our interactions are great, I think we can change the channel here please.

I did not say you took personal shot (this time). I simply called you out on saying non factual things about me and my position.  Zero value and merit in you doing so now, in the past or future.

Stop it you two...both of you, you're acting like children.

Geez.

Blue In BC

Quote from: tlf on Today at 07:42:08 PMStop it you two...both of you, you're acting like children.

Geez.

I will when he quits denying comments he makes and says I'm lying.
One game at a time