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The Zipp

Hamilton traded him to the argos just now for a 6th round pick..maybe we were looking at him but i would have taken him back in a heartbeat

Blue In BC

Me too. I can't really say that Elsbury is a better or less expensive player. From a ratio point of view it would make a huge impact with what we could add elsewhere.

Elsbury may have more upside but he's not exactly a top player at his position yet.
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Jesse

Yeah...no.

We got rid of him because he was the weak link. The fact that other elements are regressing doesn't make him better.
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Tecno

Elsbury is totally better in pass pro. He's at least as good in run block, maybe already better. He's not miles better though. But keep in mind, with Els:

We get:
  much cheaper because IMP
  better at both
  more upside
  easy and cheap FA retention

We lose:
  ratio

I'm all over that deal! This deal is why we could afford Broxton. Els is the least of our concern.
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Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 01:46:52 PMYeah...no.

We got rid of him because he was the weak link. The fact that other elements are regressing doesn't make him better.

Ya, definitely don't want to move backwards. Remember, we didn't let him go because he was going to get a huge Dobson payday, we let him go because he was not good enough.

HAM picked him up for depth and realized he wasn't good enough either.

He is a good depth piece, but too much money even with the haircuts he's taking, and I've never seen any indication he can do sixth.
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Blue In BC

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Quote from: Tecno on Today at 01:53:25 PMYa, definitely don't want to move backwards. Remember, we didn't let him go because he was going to get a huge Dobson payday, we let him go because he was not good enough.

HAM picked him up for depth and realized he wasn't good enough either.

He is a good depth piece, but too much money even with the haircuts he's taking, and I've never seen any indication he can do sixth.

If you're going to go with an import he should be much better than just better to mess with the ratio.

He was our starter the past 2 seasons and in our last Grey Cup.

Many argued last year that Randolph and even Wallace were part or all of the problem depending on the day of the week.

I would expand the question to ask whether he was a better option as the 6th OL instead of Eli. Obviously Eli has not taken over the role either. You've suggested he was not a better option and yet he was starting in front of Eli.

I have nothing against Elsbury and he may become a very good OL. OTOH we're going into game 9 and I haven't seen that improvement. Perhaps is and when we get Collaros back it starts to show.

Overall the ratio trade off with the receivers has not improved the offence. Clearly we don't have the best Canadian receivers behind Demski. Regardless the net result is not an improvment.

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Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 02:39:33 PMIf you're going to go with an import he should be much better than just better to mess with the ratio.
Give him time to cook, but yes you are right needs to much better than a CDN.  Might happen yet.

Agree with Techno, Jesse on this one

I wouldn't have bothered