Geno Lewis is available

[Jesse]

Don't fix what ain't broke.

Except lots is broke.

[Blue In BC]

Hard no on all these ideas.  Others have made some good counter points.
1. Don't rush the young man, not ready, perhaps not the right spot, I prefer to slow roast our future stars
2. Fletcher is >>> them
3. Instant way to get worse on D.  I like Ball but he ain't ready nor suited.Ayers ain't coming off, if he was he would have previously
Well said, couldn't agree more.  A bright light on an otherwise gloomy season.

Don't fix what ain't broke.

By default you're suggesting there is no ratio option acceptable to add Lewis. While I'm not in favour of adding Lewis, those that do make some valid suggestions. In particular adding a starting receiver by eliminating Ayers as a DI is worth considering in that context. I do see the value of another import receiver but as mentioned there are several issues in doing so.

All that said, if we throw up another defensive stinker and lose to Ottawa, then all bets are off. Something will have to change, so we'll see what they do next week.

At the very least I think Jones back to MLB and Wilson to WIL might be an improvement.

None of us are sure which if either of our QB's will be healthy and starting. That's the 1st question we need to see for our roster.

It does come down to the choice between K.Wilson and Ayers as a DI as the best option. OTOH I agree that means Smith starts a LB and that may or may not be a wise choice at the moment.

[blue_gold_84]

Bringing in Lewis would be akin to applying an old band-aid to a gaping wound.

Pass.

[Blueforlife]

By default you're suggesting there is no ratio option acceptable to add Lewis. While I'm not in favour of adding Lewis, those that do make some valid suggestions. In particular adding a starting receiver by eliminating Ayers as a DI is worth considering in that context. I do see the value of another import receiver but as mentioned there are several issues in doing so.

All that said, if we throw up another defensive stinker and lose to Ottawa, then all bets are off. Something will have to change, so we'll see what they do next week.

At the very least I think Jones back to MLB and Wilson to WIL might be an improvement.

None of us are sure which if either of our QB's will be healthy and starting. That's the 1st question we need to see for our roster.

It does come down to the choice between K.Wilson and Ayers as a DI as the best option. OTOH I agree that means Smith starts a LB and that may or may not be a wise choice at the moment.

No I am saying hard no to all those three options and also hard no to Lewis full stop

Good discussion here though enjoy your take

My opinion is that Lewis isn't worth brining in at this point due to the impact to the roster, based on how it's currently structured.  I like him but not enough to shuffle the deck for him.

Except lots is broke.

Except the DL.  Don't touch the DL.  Your suggestion on the DL makes it weaker.

Never said lots wasn't broke.

[dd]

We don't need another older, high priced under achieving player we have plenty right now on our roster and are trying to get rid of them. Ottawa did the right thing, dump the expensive dead weight.

[Blue In BC]

No I am saying hard no to all those three options and also hard no to Lewis full stop

Good discussion here though enjoy your take

My opinion is that Lewis isn't worth brining in at this point due to the impact to the roster, based on how it's currently structured.  I like him but not enough to shuffle the deck for him.
Except the DL.  Don't touch the DL.  Your suggestion on the DL makes it weaker.

Never said lots wasn't broke.

We agree on no to Lewis but we disagree on the options necessary to add another receiver. Unless we add a receiver from our PR, there aren't any apparent other receiver choices.

That's not quite the issue. The issue is the unwillingness to make a change / consider at LB if there was a receiver available.  Those are the options available. We can't take out a DB and have no other DL depth / ratio so a change at LB is the choice.

Don't look now but your loyalty is showing. I think there needs to be a change at LB regardless of the decision at receiver.

Starting Smith is a risk, but so is giving up 377 yards rushing.

If I have to flip the switch, I'm moving Jones to MLB and probably starting Woodbey at WIL with Smith rotating in. What that causes for K. Wilson or Ayers is just collateral damage.

My trade off choice is to move out Ayers and keep Wilson as the DI. Flip a coin. Either could be moved to the RR if that makes some happy.

First choice would be to delete Wilson outright. It's time to on and forward. O'Shea is not likely to do any of this which in itself is a major problem. He's a status quo guy.

EDIT: We've won 4 games by a total of 14 points. That includes 1 game winning by 9 points. That means 3 games won by a total of 5 points. None of that is close to a good defensive perform thoughout the course of 8 games.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

We agree on no to Lewis but we disagree on the options necessary to add another receiver. Unless we add a receiver from our PR, there aren't any apparent other receiver choices.

That's not quite the issue. The issue is the unwillingness to make a change / consider at LB if there was a receiver available.  Those are the options available. We can't take out a DB and have no other DL depth / ratio so a change at LB is the choice.

Don't look now but your loyalty is showing. I think there needs to be a change at LB regardless of the decision at receiver.

Starting Smith is a risk, but so is giving up 377 yards rushing.

If I have to flip the switch, I'm moving Jones to MLB and probably starting Woodbey at WIL with Smith rotating in. What that causes for K. Wilson or Ayers is just collateral damage.

My trade off choice is to move out Ayers and keep Wilson as the DI. Flip a coin. Either could be moved to the RR if that makes some happy.

First choice would be to delete Wilson outright. It's time to on and forward. O'Shea is not likely to do any of this which in itself is a major problem. He's a status quo guy.

EDIT: We've won 4 games by a total of 14 points. That includes 1 game winning by 9 points. That means 3 games won by a total of 5 points. None of that is close to a good defensive perform thoughout the course of 8 games.

Griffin likely out for awhile, don't think they'll reduce their LB contingent, Woodbey, Ayers and Smith will likely contest for his reps at SAM while also spelling Kyrie out.  Don't think Tony Jones ever comes off the field.

[theaardvark]

If Lewis was cut loose for play, it would be a hard pass.

But Lewis was victim of a very. very bad RB team, and his high $SMS.

They get no benefit keeping him (he wouldn't be signed next year, guys like Hardy are first priority), and his $SMS hit can be used to resign guys like Hardy early.

I'm surprised other vets in OTT haven't been cut, but I guess they have to keep a semblance of credibility if they want to sell any tickets.

[Blue In BC]

Griffin likely out for awhile, don't think they'll reduce their LB contingent, Woodbey, Ayers and Smith will likely contest for his reps at SAM while also spelling Kyrie out.  Don't think Tony Jones ever comes off the field.

I didn't see Griffin get injured. Do we know what his injury was or potential for missing time? That would change the dynamic but it may open a roster spot for an import starter. Woodbey and Ayers would have both been DI's.

I still don't think Lewis is a good choice but a receiver might be a choice from the PR.Our other choices are to add Jackson back as another LB.

Does that make the most sense for the choices we have? An ST player versus a starter?

[Blueforlife]

We agree on no to Lewis but we disagree on the options necessary to add another receiver. Unless we add a receiver from our PR, there aren't any apparent other receiver choices.

That's not quite the issue. The issue is the unwillingness to make a change / consider at LB if there was a receiver available.  Those are the options available. We can't take out a DB and have no other DL depth / ratio so a change at LB is the choice.

Don't look now but your loyalty is showing. I think there needs to be a change at LB regardless of the decision at receiver.

Starting Smith is a risk, but so is giving up 377 yards rushing.

If I have to flip the switch, I'm moving Jones to MLB and probably starting Woodbey at WIL with Smith rotating in. What that causes for K. Wilson or Ayers is just collateral damage.

My trade off choice is to move out Ayers and keep Wilson as the DI. Flip a coin. Either could be moved to the RR if that makes some happy.

First choice would be to delete Wilson outright. It's time to on and forward. O'Shea is not likely to do any of this which in itself is a major problem. He's a status quo guy.

EDIT: We've won 4 games by a total of 14 points. That includes 1 game winning by 9 points. That means 3 games won by a total of 5 points. None of that is close to a good defensive perform thoughout the course of 8 games.

You are making this into something its not about.

All I said was no to Lewis and no to those three suggested roster moves.

This has nothing to do with loyalty, nice try.  Just stating my counter argument on the 3 roster suggested changes to accommodate Lewis.

I would like Ayers to stay.  I would like Wilson to stay on AR.  I have said more reps for Smith but don't start him.  I would put Kramdi back at LB if we could find a veteran safety which I have called for since the season began.  Almost impossible!

I don't think our receivers are the biggest fish to fry.

My order is:
1. OL
2. Find FS
3. OC
3. Shuffle roster for Kramdi
4. Nichols
5. Run the **** rock
6. Sling nasty with a healthy Zach

Don't paint me with a brush that doesn't suit my colour scheme lol.

Change is needed but hard no to Lewis and these three roster changes, that was all.

Jones in the middle sure.  Woodbey more reps sure.

I would consider trading an LB if we could get a return but that's a pipe dream lol.

I would consider other roster moves if another receiver was available, depending who.  I would try Singer before bringing in someone else, no rush but eventually I would give him 2 games.  There is no unwillingness change, my opinion on change is based on who comes on and if their on field impact is greater than the roster impact of the addition.  Lewis simply not worth it imo.  Close but no cigar.

[Blue In BC]

You are making this into something its not about.

All I said was no to Lewis and no to those three suggested roster moves.

This has nothing to do with loyalty, nice try.  Just stating my counter argument on the 3 roster suggested changes to accommodate Lewis.

I would like Ayers to stay.  I would like Wilson to stay on AR.  I have said more reps for Smith but don't start him.  I would put Kramdi back at LB if we could find a veteran safety which I have called for since the season began.  Almost impossible!

I don't think our receivers are the biggest fish to fry.

My order is:
1. OL
2. Find FS
3. OC
3. Shuffle roster for Kramdi
4. Nichols
5. Run the **** rock
6. Sling nasty with a healthy Zach

Don't paint me with a brush that doesn't suit my colour scheme lol.

Change is needed but hard no to Lewis and these three roster changes, that was all.

Jones in the middle sure.  Woodbey more reps sure.

I would consider trading an LB if we could get a return but that's a pipe dream lol.

I would consider other roster moves if another receiver was available, depending who.  I would try Singer before bringing in someone else, no rush but eventually I would give him 2 games.  There is no unwillingness change, my opinion on change is based on who comes on and if their on field impact is greater than the roster impact of the addition.  Lewis simply not worth it imo.  Close but no cigar.

The changes at LB were a potentially a separate idea over and above whether we'd add an import receiver. You tend to be a status quo poster and resist trying to change something when it needs a new outlook.

I did mention the possibility of adding a receiver from the PR and what it would take to do so. It's linked but not part of all the comments about how to configure the LB's.

You rejected the options and then doubled down by saying you want Ayers and Wilson on the AR. The only option you suggested was more reps for Smith or Woodbey. You did agree with moving Jones to MLB without explaining how or why we'd keep Wilson on the AR.

Kramdi is injured for an indeterminate amount of time. We don't appear to have an import alternate at safety. So those are not real alternatives today. It does nothing to really address the poor performance of our LB's as a group.

That's about as unwilling an overview as I could imagine. You're painting that picture not me or others . We're suggesting actual changes that could be made for the next game.

A trade is not likely and another OL isn't going to be found growing on trees.  Suggestions were made based on the health of Broxton but you want a choice we don't have. It's shuffle those we have up to and including considering Poncius.

That's irrespective of Lewis who some posters are suggesting as a choice. You don't think our receivers are a primary issue?

[Blueforlife]

The changes at LB were a potentially a separate idea over and above whether we'd add an import receiver. You tend to be a status quo poster and resist trying to change something when it needs a new outlook.

I did mention the possibility of adding a receiver from the PR and what it would take to do so. It's linked but not part of all the comments about how to configure the LB's.

You rejected the options and then doubled down by saying you want Ayers and Wilson on the AR. The only option you suggested was more reps for Smith or Woodbey.

Kramdi is injured for an indeterminate amount of time. We don't appear to have an import alternate at safety. So those are not real alternatives today. It does nothing to really address the poor performance of our LB's as a group.

That's about as unwilling an overview as I could imagine. You're painting that picture not me or others . We're suggesting actual changes that could be made for the next game.

A trade is not likely and another OL isn't going to be found growing on trees.  Suggestions were made based on the health of Broxton but you want a choice we don't have. It's shuffle those we have up to and including considering Poncius.

That's irrespective of Lewis who some posters are suggesting as a choice. You don't think our receivers are a primary issue?

I stated my opinion and how I would approached our problems as whole not just for this week.  There are no big changes coming this week.  There are no fresh bodies (yet).  I want change but there are very few current options that I have seen presented that would make an impact now.

In the end we have some injuries, some aging vets and prospects that are decent but not ready for prime time.  The reason I'm not agreeing with the changes as I don't really see a way out in the next couple games than to play who we have, get healthy and hope to god we can bring in some talent

My opinion on Ayers and Wilson is not doubling down, its been the same for 2 or 3 years.  You want Ayers off and have for years, that's ok.  Would it help, who knows but I see him a lifer here.

I am more willing and open to change than you give me credit for.

[blue_or_die]

TLDR

If this was a version of the Bombers 2-3 years ago and even a 2026-version Lewis were available, I'd 100% be down to sign him. But with this team today...how would the ball even get thrown in his direction? We can't even get fundamentals right. We are multiple stages away from having the luxury of adding a circus catch playmaker kinda guy. I just don't see how he helps us, as much as I think he's still elite or close to.