Calgary @ Winnipeg pre-game thread

[Blueforlife]

I wonder if Peterson gets added to the AR for the next game to provide some different looks on offence.  Whether BO is nicked or not, it might be worthwhile.

I don't agree with this move.  Brady will be fine.  Adds little and would take another more impactful and needed player off the roster.  We have others options to run the rock already on the AR.

I would take Peterson + Chris-Ike for a game just for an A+B comparison. Brady looked awful in Ottawa. He went from the slowest starting running back in the league to a full back this season. He scares nobody and guarantees stacked boxes all game. Time to be honest about it if you're O'Shea and start making decisions for the team instead of the player.

Disagree with the idea.  Overstated on the negative about Brady.  He will start to cook, give him time.  Also likely needs to get healthy.  Brady has been the best back in the league for a long time and that won't change anytime soon.  Yes a slow start and yes there are some great backs this year and there was last year.  Please provide us with data or facts that back up your slowest RB in the league.  I don't buy that.  Yes he isn't a twitch back but he has many other gifts.  Comparing him to a full back is not true.  He has scared people his entire career and will continue to do so.  Yes they stack the box on him, only way to stop the run.  Wow.

All that said is Brady is not at least 75% sit him.

Come fall Bbb will be in full force and I'll get the microwave ready for turbo defrost.

Brady >> Peterson but I do like both

I think this is Brady's team for years yet (pending health)

[Blue In BC]

I don't agree with this move.  Brady will be fine.  Adds little and would take another more impactful and needed player off the roster.  We have others options to run the rock already on the AR.
Disagree with the idea.  Overstated on the negative about Brady.  He will start to cook, give him time.  Also likely needs to get healthy.  Brady has been the best back in the league for a long time and that won't change anytime soon.  Yes a slow start and yes there are some great backs this year and there was last year.  Please provide us with data or facts that back up your slowest RB in the league.  I don't buy that.  Yes he isn't a twitch back but he has many other gifts.  Comparing him to a full back is not true.  He has scared people his entire career and will continue to do so.  Yes they stack the box on him, only way to stop the run.  Wow.

All that said is Brady is not at least 75% sit him.

Come fall Bbb will be in full force and I'll get the microwave ready for turbo defrost.

Brady >> Peterson but I do like both

I think this is Brady's team for years yet (pending health)

Knowing when to modify a roster due to any player's limitations is a judgment call. Your point is that it might also require moving another player off the roster to accommodate that is relevant, but the nature of the roster size and ratio.

In this particular game we could have left Bouliane off the roster and added Peterson.  We have lots of ST players and little back up at RB.

We don't know the exact extent to BO's injury but he was clearly not having a great game. How much of that was due to any limitation is less clear. Ottawa defence had something to say about that.

Players play with injuries all the time.

However backing the 3 legged horse ( injured ) over a healthy horse in a race isn't always the best option.

It doesn't matter if BO is 100% later in the season, what mattered was what he could do yesterday. The result was not good for most of the game. Normally that generates a loss for the Bombers because he's our spark plug.

In a different example I wonder if Collaros would have played if we didn't have Brown on the roster. These decisions often fall on could have versus shouldn't have. 

The negative comments about BO were reasonable to question. I might add he's no longer the best RB in the CFL and has been more prone to injury. RB careers are generally short in any league.


Rankin, Theis and Mills may all be better overall than BO at this point. He's still an excellent player but we're seeing new blood rise to the top.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I would just like to see the difference at this point and if it gives Brady a week to get healthy that's probably a bonus. I'm not sure if it would look better, but I think it might especially if we can get some of the zone running plays going and stretch out the field horizontally. We're trying our best to do that through sweeps, receiver hitches and stuff but it's a bit like fighting the symptoms instead of the virus itself. One thing is for sure, it couldn't have gone much worse for the running game than yesterday and if Brady isn't having a good day in the A or B gap he's all out of options.

[Pigskin]

Yes, a big win by the Bombers this week would be nice. Bombers would be 5-2, and Calgary 2-5. And, we would win the season head to head match up. But, the boys must play better then they did in Ottawa. I also agree that if BO20 is injured, rest him. 

[dd]

If Brady is hurt/ailing, then sit him until he's 100%< we're sitting Collaros, we can sit Brady. Peterson will do just fine, if i recall last year he lit it up when he got the chance, Brady was suuuuuper slow vs Ottawa, if he plays hurt, its just a matter of time until he gets seriously hurt. Nobody ever won anything in July, think long term, make the right call.

[Tecno]

VAJ has been very hot/cold this season, just like seasons past. Strangely, so has the team. And I think they try way harder at home. All of these can work in our favor.

VAJ is a slinger, and our D can do well against those. We sucked against Maier because him and Dinwiddie are dink and dunk meisters.

Dickenson the Greater is impatient, just like his qb. They will have trouble if our D is on point.

CGYs vaunted DL did diddly squat in their last game. Hopefully we study that film and take notes.

Totally winnable game for us. I'd prefer Zach, but I bet it's dru . Just hope his many almost-ints stay that way. Giving the ball away will guarantee a loss.

[Blue In BC]

VAJ has been very hot/cold this season, just like seasons past. Strangely, so has the team. And I think they try way harder at home. All of these can work in our favor.

VAJ is a slinger, and our D can do well against those. We sucked against Maier because him and Dinwiddie are dink and dunk meisters.

Dickenson the Greater is impatient, just like his qb. They will have trouble if our D is on point.

CGYs vaunted DL did diddly squat in their last game. Hopefully we study that film and take notes.

Totally winnable game for us. I'd prefer Zach, but I bet it's dru . Just hope his many almost-ints stay that way. Giving the ball away will guarantee a loss.

With Collaros being moved to the 6 game IR, it most certainly will be Brown starting at QB. He can win this game.

I am waiting to see if we activate some of the players off the 6 game IR for this game. Some fresh legs won't hurt.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

This will be an interesting game.

We've been more inconsistent as a team than I can remember under O'Shea, both week to week and quarter to quarter.

Calgary is a lot better than a 2-4 win team and it's as close to a must win game as there can be in July considering we took the first one and the season series is on the line. You can't go 3.5 back from their perspective.

One of those games I literally have no idea what to expect. A blow out in either direction wouldn't surprise me much, nether would a close game.

[Blueforlife]

Knowing when to modify a roster due to any player's limitations is a judgment call. Your point is that it might also require moving another player off the roster to accommodate that is relevant, but the nature of the roster size and ratio.

In this particular game we could have left Bouliane off the roster and added Peterson.  We have lots of ST players and little back up at RB.

We don't know the exact extent to BO's injury but he was clearly not having a great game. How much of that was due to any limitation is less clear. Ottawa defence had something to say about that.

Players play with injuries all the time.

However backing the 3 legged horse ( injured ) over a healthy horse in a race isn't always the best option.

It doesn't matter if BO is 100% later in the season, what mattered was what he could do yesterday. The result was not good for most of the game. Normally that generates a loss for the Bombers because he's our spark plug.

In a different example I wonder if Collaros would have played if we didn't have Brown on the roster. These decisions often fall on could have versus shouldn't have. 

The negative comments about BO were reasonable to question. I might add he's no longer the best RB in the CFL and has been more prone to injury. RB careers are generally short in any league.


Rankin, Theis and Mills may all be better overall than BO at this point. He's still an excellent player but we're seeing new blood rise to the top.

Rankin is on another out of this world level at the moment.

Theis is < BO

Mills about the same level

The suggestion to take a healthy or nearly healthy BO off for Peterson is a non starter for me.  Resting your star sure.  The talk of BO's decline is premature imo.  I heard this story with Harris near the end, he proved many including you wrong.  BO is at an inflection point.  Needs to continue his strong play which is mostly impacted by his ability to be healthy, the play of our OL and how balanced our O is.  All that said I am not sure BO will have the longevity that Harris did but time will tell.  I knew Harris could cook right to the end but at time he even surprised me, even though I pump his tires hard and late.  We are in incredible shape if BO can play a few more years at a high level.  It's what I expect to happen.

I would just like to see the difference at this point and if it gives Brady a week to get healthy that's probably a bonus. I'm not sure if it would look better, but I think it might especially if we can get some of the zone running plays going and stretch out the field horizontally. We're trying our best to do that through sweeps, receiver hitches and stuff but it's a bit like fighting the symptoms instead of the virus itself. One thing is for sure, it couldn't have gone much worse for the running game than yesterday and if Brady isn't having a good day in the A or B gap he's all out of options.

Agree with most but Brady can run outside on occasion just like Harris did late stage.  Both had the hands to catch outside.  His value as a blocker can be stated too much.  That said, agree with most, if nicked he should fix his knickers LOL.  I am always a fan of resting guys if it means longevity later in the season.  Fine line as sometimes the players push a bit too hard.  Will have to see what happens here.  Practice might tell us something but with limited action this week likely just a nothing burger of info.  Need a locker room spy, can someone dress up as a reporter or get a media pass LOL.

[Waffler]

My worry is chasing VAJ and Mills all over the field on 4 days rest. Add to that it was a busier than normal game for the defense. IF Peterson is healthier he should play, the fresh legs would help.

[Blue In BC]

Rankin is on another out of this world level at the moment.

Theis is < BO

Mills about the same level

The suggestion to take a healthy or nearly healthy BO off for Peterson is a non starter for me.  Resting your star sure.  The talk of BO's decline is premature imo.  I heard this story with Harris near the end, he proved many including you wrong.  BO is at an inflection point.  Needs to continue his strong play which is mostly impacted by his ability to be healthy, the play of our OL and how balanced our O is.  All that said I am not sure BO will have the longevity that Harris did but time will tell.  I knew Harris could cook right to the end but at time he even surprised me, even though I pump his tires hard and late.  We are in incredible shape if BO can play a few more years at a high level.  It's what I expect to happen.
Agree with most but Brady can run outside on occasion just like Harris did late stage.  Both had the hands to catch outside.  His value as a blocker can be stated too much.  That said, agree with most, if nicked he should fix his knickers LOL.  I am always a fan of resting guys if it means longevity later in the season.  Fine line as sometimes the players push a bit too hard.  Will have to see what happens here.  Practice might tell us something but with limited action this week likely just a nothing burger of info.  Need a locker room spy, can someone dress up as a reporter or get a media pass LOL.

We only know he's nicked but how much is the issue. I don't think anyone is suggesting to take him off. However adding in Peterson and letting him take a few reps isn't the worst idea.

I guess we'll see how productive BO is this week. It's not all on him but if he struggles that will prove our point that he may have needed a break.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

The entire Bomber team needs to play better against Calgary who lost a close one to the Als who are on a roll.   VAJ is a more dangerous QB because of his running ability plus Calgary has an awesome front 7.   Mills is a very underrated RB and can hurt you with his power and has more speed than Brady.
We can't take that many dumb penalties against them or we will be in trouble.   Calgary always play us hard and we won the last game with them on a walk off field goal.....Dru needs to be sharper as the Calgary D will be tougher and he was lucky against Ottawa who dropped 4 potential picks.
A win against them at home will give us the series against them which could be a huge factor down the stretch.   

[Blueforlife]

We only know he's nicked but how much is the issue. I don't think anyone is suggesting to take him off. However adding in Peterson and letting him take a few reps isn't the worst idea.

I guess we'll see how productive BO is this week. It's not all on him but if he struggles that will prove our point that he may have needed a break.

Agree all but would like to point out SirBnG suggested BO be replaced by Peterson and MCI and he was a little over critical of BO imo.

Adding Peterson imo is an option if BO can't go.  I wouldn't bother otherwise.  If BO needs a break run it with MCI, Demski or speed sweep. Daniels on a screen.  I think the guy that comes off for Peterson wouldn't be worth it for a few reps.  That said does he play teams? Can he block well?

I sure hope he is ok, if not give him rest as most suggest.  That said BO at 75% > most.  We shall see.  Resting one game is often a good move.  If hurt don't want to make it worse!

Some good debate all.

Side note, thunder crackers in the forecast, sure hope we don't delay.  With BO cooking though, a wet game might help us if he is 100%.

[Blue In BC]

Agree all but would like to point out SirBnG suggested BO be replaced by Peterson and MCI and he was a little over critical of BO imo.

Adding Peterson imo is an option if BO can't go.  I wouldn't bother otherwise.  If BO needs a break run it with MCI, Demski or speed sweep. Daniels on a screen.  I think the guy that comes off for Peterson wouldn't be worth it for a few reps.  That said does he play teams? Can he block well?

I sure hope he is ok, if not give him rest as most suggest.  That said BO at 75% > most.  We shall see.  Resting one game is often a good move.  If hurt don't want to make it worse!

Some good debate all.

Side note, thunder crackers in the forecast, sure hope we don't delay.  With BO cooking though, a wet game might help us if he is 100%.

Bouliane is the one most likely to come off the AR. He's only played 2 games. Chances are he gets bumped by a Canadian coming off the 6 game IR this week.

Novak might be ready to return.

[Blueforlife]

Bouliane is the one most likely to come off the AR. He's only played 2 games. Chances are he gets bumped by a Canadian coming off the 6 game IR this week.

Novak might be ready to return.

Ah forgot about Novak