GDT BC at Edm, Fri July 17, 8:00PM

[Tecno]

Booth/panel talking about why Cody can't get no respect.  I'll take a stab at guessing / explaining.  I'm qualified, because I can't stand the guy and want to see him lose, and lose badly, constantly.

1. The 2 biggest/best fan bases SSK & WPG both (historically) hate him.  Why?  Because he got fired (yes, "released") from SSK, so the SSK fans would have to admit they made a horrible mistake if/when Cody does really well.  After all, they could have kept Cody as the franchise guy all this time if they had wanted.

2. And (a lot of) WPG fans hate him because he was the evil green QB.  He was like a little buzzing hornet that causes you annoyance and bother, something you want to swat away while we're going for our great 2018-2022 runs.  And he stole the '23 GC from us on a fluke luck 3rd & 3.

3. He's whiny sounding.  He doesn't actually whine, but he sounds like he's whining.  Just an awful/annoying voice.  Yes, that's not his fault.

4. Obliques: one of the lamest 4 weeks in CFL history, as everyone tracks his dumb obliques going into the playoffs.  Turns out he was 100% fine most of the time.  Heard about another QB's obliques since then?  Ya, didn't think so.

5. He's not too smart.  He's like the dim cousin you don't like to be forced to spend time with.  Yes, that's not his fault either (probably).

6. Add your own!


Yes, he's not all bad.

a) He consistently outperforms expectations.

b) He's tough.  Except for the oblique thing he basically is the Energizer Bunny.

c) He wins more than he should.

d) He goes to bad or middling teams and gets them winning.

e) Apparently he's also the most accurate QB in CFL history... although that's an easy stat when your game is 90% short (see also: T.Harris).

Overall, ya, he's probably the Rodney Dangerfield of the CFL.  I still hate him though!!

[Tecno]

Lions O-line has no idea how to run block, embarrassing.

Glass houses though!...

Oh ya, but BC OL can't pass-pro either!!  Horrible protection for Brice.  Doesn't help that Buck is doing the run-most-first-downs pass-most-second-downs thing.  Fine when it works, but when they stuff every first down run, what are you doing?!

Even Zach has a hard time when every 2nd down is 2nd & long!!  Not setting up your "noob" loser QB for success!

[Tecno]

If Rourke is out for 2-3 months, or season-ended, does this massively increase pressure on WFC to trade away either Dru or Zach?  Or Elgs?  We could possibly snag a bidding war between HAM & BC.  Pick up a superstar ELC in trade plus a ton of DP's that overshadow the ones we paid for Dru.

If yet another QB goes down in the next few weeks, and we have 3 season-ended QBs, then the amount teams are willing to pay may become so high we can't possibly resist a massive trade deal.

As Warren Buffet always said: "Buy when there's blood in the streets"... and "buy" here means buy those DPs/ELCs!! And the blood is downed QBs.

[Tecno]

EDM was worse this week, as I suspected.  If Rourke was in all game BC likely blows them out.  I mean, 4-5 INTs??  Ya, EDM would have been more aggressive on O knowing Rourke could score, but still.  EDM O was extremely lackluster.  As a few teams have proven now, shut down Rankin and they really have nothing.

No way this game should have been anywhere near this close with Rourke out.  It should have been like Dolegala vs T.Harris last week -- EDM should have hung 40 on them.  But they didn't!  Hmmmmm...

[Tecno]

Did Rourke going out cause BC to have to take out an IMP on O?  Was it J.Jackson?  I didn't see him all night -- I know, because I had him in fantasy.   

Is that why we saw more of that Poissant kid?  By my count they were only starting 7 NAT.  Yikes, that meant BC was playing with 4 NAT RECs after Rourke left.

Something to consider when your starting QB is NAT (and obviously you wouldn't carry a NAT backup QB!).

So not only did Brice have to come in with no reps with the #1 unit, but he also had to try to play with 1 less decent IMP REC target, a guy who is probably their #3 target!  We may have to cut the guy some slack (Milt didn't!) -- no run game, crap OL in all aspects, and 4 NAT REC.  No QB will look good with that.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

there it is. 

rourke out

Unfortunately for the Lions, Nathan might be made out of Zach Collaros neck muscles.

[Blue In BC]

If Rourke is out for 2-3 months, or season-ended, does this massively increase pressure on WFC to trade away either Dru or Zach?  Or Elgs?  We could possibly snag a bidding war between HAM & BC.  Pick up a superstar ELC in trade plus a ton of DP's that overshadow the ones we paid for Dru.

If yet another QB goes down in the next few weeks, and we have 3 season-ended QBs, then the amount teams are willing to pay may become so high we can't possibly resist a massive trade deal.

As Warren Buffet always said: "Buy when there's blood in the streets"... and "buy" here means buy those DPs/ELCs!! And the blood is downed QBs.

That's a lot of speculation. Rourke probably has a shoulder separation but how serious is a TBD. Even a partial one can put him out for several weeks.

Collaros is out for the 2nd week and has a injury filled history. Suggestions are that he might retire next year. Brown has also had an injury filled career.

I'm not expecting trade inquires at the moment. We traded for Brown in order to have depth and now you are suggesting another trade to dilute that depth?

Go figure.

[Blue In BC]

Unfortunately for the Lions, Nathan might be made out of Zach Collaros neck muscles.

Tough blow for the Lions and CFL fans though. He's going to miss some games but how many is TBD.  They play Toronto then the Bombers in 2 weeks. I'll be stunned if he's available to play in 2 weeks.

[TBURGESS]

If the backup QB throws 1 less pick, BC eeks out a win. 

Best guess is a separated shoulder. At least it's his left arm. 

BC has now taken Rankin out twice. Rest of the DC's gonna watch to see how they do it.   

Fajardo took a ton of hits. BC's pass rush was getting to him early and often. He still managed to complete 2 bombs though.

BC's is a better team than their record, while Edm's record is better than they actually are. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

If the backup QB throws 1 less pick, BC eeks out a win.

Best guess is a separated shoulder. At least it's his left arm.

BC has now taken Rankin out twice. Rest of the DC's gonna watch to see how they do it.   

Fajardo took a ton of hits. BC's pass rush was getting to him early and often. He still managed to complete 2 bombs though.

BC's is a better team than their record, while Edm's record is better than they actually are.

The Lions swarmed Rankin, 2 or 3 bodies in his face every time he touched the ball, hope Younger took notes and doesn't try a different method to control him, that one worked. 

[Tecno]

I'm not expecting trade inquires at the moment. We traded for Brown in order to have depth and now you are suggesting another trade to dilute that depth?

Go figure.

Yes, I understand the purpose of Dru, and having both Dru/Zach.  My point is "everyone has a price": if HAM comes and says "we renegotiated Kenny & Keondre & Katsantonis & Stubblefield & McManis & Dobson so their 2026 & 2027 salaries are all already paid out as a bonus and their salary is now $0 for the next 2 seasons" and "we'll trade you all that plus '26, '27 and '28 1RDP, as well as '26 & '27 2RDP -- all for either Dru or Zach"... of course you make that trade.

Not saying that's a thing, just saying there's a price we'll let them take Zach and move forward our succession plans.  Or Dru and roll the dice with Zach.

[Tecno]

You'd think there might be some calls to whoever holds Powell right now.  He's the next Big Thing and I've been waiting to see him start as the franchise guy for over 2 seasons now.  I understand teams want to have a very good backup, but if that backup is never playing (because your QB is tough or lucky), surely you are taking trade calls to see what you might be able to ream the desperate team for.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

You'd think there might be some calls to whoever holds Powell right now.  He's the next Big Thing and I've been waiting to see him start as the franchise guy for over 2 seasons now.  I understand teams want to have a very good backup, but if that backup is never playing (because your QB is tough or lucky), surely you are taking trade calls to see what you might be able to ream the desperate team for.

Taylor Powell? He's with the Elks and in good position to inherent the starting job if Fajardo falters, gets injured or retires. Jordan Maksymic the Elks OC would be wise to give him a package and plenty of playing time this season if he wants to keep him happy waiting behind Fajardo.

[dd]

After fords performance yesterday Hamilton is not looking for another Qb.

[theaardvark]

No one is giving up a kings ransom for Dru or Zach (both injury prone) or Elgersma (unproven).

And Walters is never trading any of them for less than a ridiculous amount.