Was the 4 IMP OL better?

[Tecno]

Was that the largest Oline we've fielded?

1641 pounds of beef on the line, Skinny Stan was the lightest at 314...

Yikes, the team (and I) call him Big Stan.  I'm really going to have to change to call him Slim Stan??  Get that dude some bologna!!

[Tecno]

Collaros' hit says nope.

Wasn't the OL's fault.  Go watch.  Brady & Daniels (mostly Brady).  So that hit should have zero bearing on this poll.

[Tecno]

It is stronger overall and with a healthy wallace backing up could be doable

Ya, we should remember that we used to have 2 extra OL dressed, for most of a season, for jumbo: Wallace & Eli.  That's when Dobson was here.  That was the last time our OL was pretty dominant.

I have zero problems with demoting Wallace to 6th.  When I grade them out he's never very bad, but he also isn't doing much very well.  He often misses downfield blocks.  And the scouting/Mafia has always said he has weak pass pro: working on it, etc.

If he really was benched a week as punishment ("sit back and watch, you're not doing well enough"), and he's now back in, it could also point to an effort/complacency thing.

[Tecno]

I didn't pay much attention to that big new guy Maccuza, How'd he look?  I was away for most of lastweek, what was Wallace hurt or did they make him sit?

Maccuza had 2 exemplary plays, and 0 bad plays, in my little grading scheme.  That's better than Wallace usually gets from me.  Not bad for a guy on his 1st CFL start vs 20th!!

We've never really talked about the plan for Maccuza... I assume as an IMP he's being groomed for OT, not OG.  So until we see him at OT (which may be a long time!) we can't really know if he'll be a success.  It's not really hard for most IMPs to come up here and be really good OGs.

As always, the ratio is the limiting factor, and 4 IMP OL is likely an impossible thing to sustain without Elgersma as our franchise starter.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Maccuza had 2 exemplary plays, and 0 bad plays, in my little grading scheme.  That's better than Wallace usually gets from me.  Not bad for a guy on his 1st CFL start vs 20th!!

We've never really talked about the plan for Maccuza... I assume as an IMP he's being groomed for OT, not OG.  So until we see him at OT (which may be a long time!) we can't really know if he'll be a success.  It's not really hard for most IMPs to come up here and be really good OGs.

As always, the ratio is the limiting factor, and 4 IMP OL is likely an impossible thing to sustain without Elgersma as our franchise starter.

Speaking of Maccuza, he was transferred to the PR along with Bouliane yesterday, Dylan Hazen an American LB has been transferred from the PR to the active roster. I don't recall that name in TC and not sure why they would be activating him unless Kyrie or Tony Jones is injured.

Vanterpool re-appears on the Bomber 6 game after a brief disappearance.

[Tecno]

Speaking of Maccuza, he was transferred to the PR along with Bouliane yesterday, Dylan Hazen an American LB has been transferred from the PR to the active roster. I don't recall that name in TC and not sure why they would be activating him unless Kyrie or Tony Jones is injured.

Vanterpool re-appears on the Bomber 6 game after a brief disappearance.

It's so hard to tell what Mafia is up to.  But they are usually pretty straight-laced with 6G, etc.  So Vant may really be injured.

If Kyrie got injured that could explain why he was MIA most of the game.  It was really odd how much Smith we saw.  Other teams can see rookies play their way in front of a vet, but that's pretty rare in Mafia-land.

Jones is fine.  He was flying around creaming players all game.  He's a wild beast tackling machine.  Anyone who says he isn't good enough (regardless of position) isn't paying attention.

[jdrattops]

Wasn't the OL's fault.  Go watch.  Brady & Daniels (mostly Brady).  So that hit should have zero bearing on this poll.

Shouldn't our Elsbury be calling this out to make Brady aware?

[Tecno]

Shouldn't our Elsbury be calling this out to make Brady aware?

Luckily enough for us TSN (for once) cut to the all-24 well before the snap.  Elsbury is doing some hand signal, but it might be more of a silent count thing.  Bryant and Broxton also are hand signalling.

The dude who hits Zach is coming from a WILL position, and he doesn't start moving forward until Zach lifts his leg to signal the beginning of the final snap sequence.  By that time all OL are in their freeze and can no longer hand-signal threats.

So I'm not sure how Elsbury could have sniffed out the extra pass-rusher in time.

Brady does see it in time and waves his hand to Daniels.  My take is Brady is saying "you need to take that Daniels" because Brady is already eyeing the 3 on 2 developing on the right side.

Daniels doesn't see it, or doesn't react.  You'd think Brady would yell something at Zach, but I don't see an indication of that, and Zach doesn't seem to respond.  If Brady thought Daniels had it then why tell Zach?

One thing I didn't notice before is Daniels seems to be laser-focused on the RECs on their waggle on the strong side.  Like he's keying off what they do.  That's probably by design.  Though Brady sees the threat I don't think Daniels does until it's running past his facing-strong-side face!!  That may be why Daniels doesn't see Brady, too.

They need a better system to handle this.  It's a timing gap that HAM is exploiting.  Or Daniels is being given too many "if this, then this, but not when this..." things to remember, and he's too green to keep it all straight.

One thing I do know, this ain't Big Stan blocking air or covering the wrong guy.  He's taking the inside-most guy that would otherwise be free.  He did the right thing.  Brady is most to blame because he's the vet guy who needs to spot the hole and ensure Zach's safety on the blind side.  In the end Brady ends up blocking air -- he's never needed on the strong side.

HAM DC must be very smart and be poring over film to find these system-timing gaps.  I sure wish our DC('s) would do more some of this!

[TBURGESS]

Wasn't the OL's fault.  Go watch.  Brady & Daniels (mostly Brady).  So that hit should have zero bearing on this poll.

Tackle takes his man, RB takes the next man closest to the inside of the line. QB has to know there is an unblocked man and get the ball out before taking the hit. The hit on Collaros was on Collaros. 

We had a single drive in the game, the last one. It was all Brady, not the O line opening big holes for him. TE was throwing 5 yard passes, meaning the O line didn't have to do much to protect him. 

[CrazyCanuck89]

It's so hard to tell what Mafia is up to.  But they are usually pretty straight-laced with 6G, etc.  So Vant may really be injured.

If Kyrie got injured that could explain why he was MIA most of the game.  It was really odd how much Smith we saw.  Other teams can see rookies play their way in front of a vet, but that's pretty rare in Mafia-land.

Jones is fine.  He was flying around creaming players all game.  He's a wild beast tackling machine.  Anyone who says he isn't good enough (regardless of position) isn't paying attention.

Smith isn't a rookie anymore.

[Blue In BC]

Smith isn't a rookie anymore.

From a playing point of view he is a rookie.

I'm not sure suggesting Jones is making a lot of tackles is the only measurement. We'd need to know the assignment and where the tackle is being made. A tackle 6 yards after the LOS is not a good thing compared to a tackle 1 yard after the LOS.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Shouldn't our Elsbury be calling this out to make Brady aware?

The Center is only signalling to the guys on the O-line and maybe the QB.

[The Zipp]

the experiment is over - for now...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Luckily enough for us TSN (for once) cut to the all-24 well before the snap.  Elsbury is doing some hand signal, but it might be more of a silent count thing.  Bryant and Broxton also are hand signalling.

The dude who hits Zach is coming from a WILL position, and he doesn't start moving forward until Zach lifts his leg to signal the beginning of the final snap sequence.  By that time all OL are in their freeze and can no longer hand-signal threats.

So I'm not sure how Elsbury could have sniffed out the extra pass-rusher in time.

Brady does see it in time and waves his hand to Daniels.  My take is Brady is saying "you need to take that Daniels" because Brady is already eyeing the 3 on 2 developing on the right side.

Daniels doesn't see it, or doesn't react.  You'd think Brady would yell something at Zach, but I don't see an indication of that, and Zach doesn't seem to respond.  If Brady thought Daniels had it then why tell Zach?

One thing I didn't notice before is Daniels seems to be laser-focused on the RECs on their waggle on the strong side.  Like he's keying off what they do.  That's probably by design.  Though Brady sees the threat I don't think Daniels does until it's running past his facing-strong-side face!!  That may be why Daniels doesn't see Brady, too.

They need a better system to handle this.  It's a timing gap that HAM is exploiting.  Or Daniels is being given too many "if this, then this, but not when this..." things to remember, and he's too green to keep it all straight.

One thing I do know, this ain't Big Stan blocking air or covering the wrong guy.  He's taking the inside-most guy that would otherwise be free.  He did the right thing.  Brady is most to blame because he's the vet guy who needs to spot the hole and ensure Zach's safety on the blind side.  In the end Brady ends up blocking air -- he's never needed on the strong side.

Daniels is a raw rookie, probably struggling to absorb too much information, it's his job to recognize the situation he sees in front of him and react correctly.  Brady telling him what to do before the play is just trying to help him out, his obligation is to execute his assignment well, he can't babysit or correct others mistakes.

Full credit to the pass rusher he slipped around from behind the D-line and timed his dash perfectly.

[Tecno]

I'm not sure suggesting Jones is making a lot of tackles is the only measurement. We'd need to know the assignment and where the tackle is being made. A tackle 6 yards after the LOS is not a good thing compared to a tackle 1 yard after the LOS.

Trust me, after studying the footage from the last 3 games heavily, Jones is making superb plays everywhere.  Behind LoS, at LoS, just after LoS.  I think he's our most effective piece on D.  And he hustles to the ball even when it's not his area.  He's good at shedding blocks to get to the carrier.  He's fast.  Half the time I feel like he's the only one trying out there.