Toronto (home) at Winnipeg (away)

[Blue In BC]

So the Bombers report that Brown will start and Collaros will go on to the 1 game IR. Call me surprised but here we go. While the SMS cost is the same on 1 game IR as reserve, why didn't the team put Collaros on the RR, switching places with Brown?

I think we're going to see a fairly vanilla offence with a shortened playbook. The bonus with that is that it may be good way to win TOP if they have success with moving the ball in multiple play drives. Scoring is important but so is not giving the Argos the ball too often for too long.

The switch back to 3 import OL is a little curious to add another rotational DL.

Fingers crossed.

[blue_gold_84]

Need a big game from the hoggies tomorrow evening. Get Oliveira going early and that should help Brown settle in.

[Blue In BC]

I don't get the impression that the Argos are great against the run. They've played teams with new RB's and little experience / success running the ball.

This could be the key to winning for the Bombers. Brady ball. Judge probably out so that's an advantage for Winnipeg.

[dd]

Need a big game from the hoggies tomorrow evening. Get Oliveira going early and that should help Brown settle in.

I think Brown will be fine, I am more worried about our defense and stopping Kelly, I have zero faith in them stopping TO's passing attack

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Collaros has had one above average game this year. Dru can definitely give us a sub 300 passing, 20 completion night. Or basically the level of play we got week 1, 3 and probably 4 had Zach not been hurt.

[The Zipp]

But it's not, because Elgersma has been here since camp and steeped in the book for a couple of months now.  Present for every QB meeting, with the group for film study, etc.  Dru, not so much.

Some HCs might jump to Dru, but we all know MOS & Mafia don't roll that way.  The guy who put in his dues and was tasked with the job gets the job.  Dru will roll in when he's "MOS ready".

guess he is MOS ready...it would have been foolhardy to start Elgs.  Rookie pro QB's get eaten up, he needs more time and that isn't a slight against him.  True rookie, has promise but when you have a proven league starter you go with them.  MOS knows that

[theaardvark]

So the Bombers report that Brown will start and Collaros will go on to the 1 game IR. Call me surprised but here we go. While the SMS cost is the same on 1 game IR as reserve, why didn't the team put Collaros on the RR, switching places with Brown?

I think we're going to see a fairly vanilla offence with a shortened playbook. The bonus with that is that it may be good way to win TOP if they have success with moving the ball in multiple play drives. Scoring is important but so is not giving the Argos the ball too often for too long.

The switch back to 3 import OL is a little curious to add another rotational DL.

Fingers crossed.

Why would you use an RR (2 spots available) spot reserved for a healthy scratch, when for the same $SMS cost, you can put the INJURED player on the IR (unlimited spots available)?

[Blue In BC]

Why would you use an RR (2 spots available) spot reserved for a healthy scratch, when for the same $SMS cost, you can put the INJURED player on the IR (unlimited spots available)?

Because we aren't using two spots on the RR for most games. Brown just came off the RR and we've discussed how to handle having 4 QB's on the roster. Due to the number of players on our 6 game IR, we don't have healthy scratches that would fill those spots rather than being moved to PR.

You could ask why Wallace went onto the RR instead of the 1 game IR? Same situation if it's truly a short term issue.

The extended question is Collaros really suffering a neck injury of a concussion issue. I've asked / suggested why he wouldn't be placed on the 6 game IR as a better choice. If he can practice next week, there is no SMS change to remove him early.

[Jesse]

Because we aren't using two spots on the RR for most games. Brown just came off the RR and we've discussed how to handle having 4 QB's on the roster. Due to the number of players on our 6 game IR, we don't have healthy scratches that would fill those spots rather than being moved to PR.

You could ask why Wallace went onto the RR instead of the 1 game IR? Same situation if it's truly a short term issue.

The extended question is Collaros really suffering a neck injury of a concussion issue. I've asked / suggested why he wouldn't be placed on the 6 game IR as a better choice. If he can practice next week, there is no SMS change to remove him early.

Feels like it makes perfect sense to put an injured player on the injured roster. Do you have a reason why we shouldn't use the IR for its designed purpose?

[Tecno]

Feels like it makes perfect sense to put an injured player on the injured roster. Do you have a reason why we shouldn't use the IR for its designed purpose?

Ya, the whole point of the RR was to make it so teams could be more transparent and honest with roster placement.  League might have also sent a memo telling teams to try to cut back on the lying & cheating with roster tricks.

And since filling the RR isn't mandatory...

[Tecno]

guess he is MOS ready...it would have been foolhardy to start Elgs.  Rookie pro QB's get eaten up, he needs more time and that isn't a slight against him.  True rookie, has promise but when you have a proven league starter you go with them.  MOS knows that

Well, I'm a bit surprised.  I guess they figure all that plus Dru is pretty sharp & quick made them confident he could do it.  And we can always jump to Elgs if he sucks.

[Tecno]

Collaros has had one above average game this year. Dru can definitely give us a sub 300 passing, 20 completion night. Or basically the level of play we got week 1, 3 and probably 4 had Zach not been hurt.

Except Dru was getting very good at throwing mid passes right to the dropped-back LBers when he was in OTT.  Zach had thrown almost no INTs until that game-starting pick.

If we commit more than 1 turnover I predict we lose.  We'll need like +3 on turnovers to have any hope.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Except Dru was getting very good at throwing mid passes right to the dropped-back LBers when he was in OTT.  Zach had thrown almost no INTs until that game-starting pick.

If we commit more than 1 turnover I predict we lose.  We'll need like +3 on turnovers to have any hope.

Almost none? Zach has three picks in three and a quarter games this year.

He's thrown one in every game except the Edmonton game where he went for 290 yards, and 2 TDs after the bye. He's only played one interception free game in four tries.

Moreover, he has 17 TDs and 16 INTs last year and 17 TDs and 15 INTs the year before that. He's basically good for one a game. That's a weird way to describe "almost none". Unless you also concluded hes thrown "almost no" TDs.

[Tecno]

Almost none? Zach has three picks in three and a quarter games this year.

IIRC one wasn't his fault (tip up).  And weren't some of his other "picks" him FF, not INTs?  Compared to previous years where he often would throw more INTs than TDs in some games, this really is almost no INTs.  The INTs aren't really our problem this year.  Carriers fumbling, and the O not being able to move the ball, is worse.

[Jesse]

We've played risk-averse football this season. It's led to Zach throwing less INTs than the previous two years and it's also resulted in the lowest scoring in the league. The defense isn't some hall of fame calibre version of itself that can support that kind of offence.

The only glimmer is that Dru can open up the scoring.