Winnipeg @ Hamilton

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Blueforlife

#75
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2026, 08:44:53 PMIf Collaros goes to the wedding and misses the walk through, I'm going to be very disappointed in him whether we win or lose.
Not me, work life balance is important, you give your veteran leader a long leash.  He earned that.
Quote from: gobombersgo on July 02, 2026, 09:06:19 PMIt's one practice for a lifetime of memories.

I would want Zach to go as I wouldnt want him moping around over the fact he missed out attending.

Besides, if Zach does go Im sure he'd still be in contact with Tommy and the QBs over zoom or whatever.
Agree all
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2026, 09:36:59 PMNot acceptable. The team is 1 - 2. It's a friends wedding, not family.
Totally acceptable, part of our culture
Quote from: RebusRankin on July 02, 2026, 09:38:10 PMSo hypothetically, how do we feel if Zach goes to the wedding Friday, plays Sunday and puts up a stinker?
Could put a sticker either way, will never know why.  I expect an average to good game.
Quote from: dd on July 02, 2026, 06:46:12 PMAnd defenses know that. Key on Demski and Wilson, and give up the check down to Nield or Daniels, and that's what they're doing.
Daniels is hardly a regular part of our O

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 02, 2026, 10:10:40 PMNot me, work life balance is important, you give your veteran leader a long leash.  He earned that.Agree allTotally acceptable, part of our culture Could put a sticker either way, will never know why.  I expect an average to good game.Daniels is hardly a regular part of our O

We're paying Collaros over $500K to play football for 18 games. He's played with 100's if not 1000's of players in college and the CFL. He's played on several CFL teams over an extended time.  He doesn't get to skip practices or games every time one throws a party or gets married.

That is not part of our culture. Leaving for illness within the family, birth, death or critical business requirements is ok but not all encompassing.
One game at a time

Sir Blue and Gold

#77
If Collaros would rather be at a wedding, let Brown and Elgersma play. We'll be fine and if it works, consider keeping it for a bit longer.

theaardvark

Literally the wedding / event of a decade. 

Is Zach close enough to be a groomsman?  That'd be a consideration, for sure.

I have no issue with him attending, not sure he doesn't come back re-energized.  And there is a reason Dru is here...
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Blueforlife

#79
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2026, 11:09:21 PMWe're paying Collaros over $500K to play football for 18 games. He's played with 100's if not 1000's of players in college and the CFL. He's played on several CFL teams over an extended time.  He doesn't get to skip practices or games every time one throws a party or gets married.

That is not part of our culture. Leaving for illness within the family, birth, death or critical business requirements is ok but not all encompassing.
Yup he earned that.  He earned the ability to take this break.  It's not everytime. It's this time.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 02, 2026, 11:19:09 PMIf Collaros would rather be at a wedding, let Brown and Elgersma play. We'll be fine and if it works, consider keeping it for a bit longer.
Terrible idea.  Guy gets approved to take a break.  He doesn't loose his job as a result.  He almost single handedly turned this org. around.  He can go to a party, return and sling.  Non issue handled internally.  2nd and 3rd string get more reps at practice.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2026, 11:09:21 PMWe're paying Collaros over $500K to play football for 18 games. He's played with 100's if not 1000's of players in college and the CFL. He's played on several CFL teams over an extended time.  He doesn't get to skip practices or games every time one throws a party or gets married.

That is not part of our culture. Leaving for illness within the family, birth, death or critical business requirements is ok but not all encompassing.

$600k, he can go to the event after the Ti-Cat game, I'm sure the party will carry on for a few days after the wedding. 

"The couple is hosting an estimated 1,100 guests over a multi-day celebration in New York City. Festivities kicked off with an intimate rehearsal dinner on July 2, 2026, ahead of their main marriage ceremony and mega-reception at Madison Square"

With over 1,100 guests invited, Zach probably won't be noticed or missed.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 02, 2026, 11:19:09 PMIf Collaros would rather be at a wedding, let Brown and Elgersma play. We'll be fine and if it works, consider keeping it for a bit longer.

That's actually a great idea.  I'd give it to Elgersma.  We're going to lose no matter what anyhow.  Let's save Zach getting beaten up (especially if Wallace is out and there's yet another OL shuffle -- unless we plug in Vant).  AND we get to see what Elgersma can offer -- and if HE stinks it all up then he certainly can't pout being moved to RR all season in favor of Dru.

And if Elgersma lights it up and is RIGHT NOW the next Rourke, we have a season-long option of parking Zach and rolling with our new star NAT QB.  Ya, that's not going to happen, but one can dream.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2026, 08:44:53 PMIf Collaros goes to the wedding and misses the walk through, I'm going to be very disappointed in him whether we win or lose.

If he has a private jet so total time away from the team is 7-8 hours, AND he wins against league-best HAM in a dominating fashion (i.e. not just ST/D luck), then I say all is forgiven and I won't care one whit.

But we all know the latter will not happen.

If your stipulation BinBC is so strict, be prepared to be severely disappointed!!  P.S. I'm more on your side about this than not.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Jesse on July 02, 2026, 06:47:00 PMOur 4 top receivers and Brady all have between 14-20 targets. Who is his favourite?

That's easy.  Nield and Demski are the only guys he looks at.  And White in the redzone.  And Brady for the draw screen / dump pass / bail out, of course.

Pokey in his wide-out position gets a look only on the rare occasion we decide to "go for it" and Zach gets the match-up he likes -- IOW, rarely.

Everyone else is just an afterthought.  And between Nield & Demski his favorite changes based on who the D is double-covering and who shows the hot hand early in the game.  Zach is 100% a hot-hand guy -- he picks his favorite early every game.  And if you whiff early, God help you, because you'll be invisible to him later on.
Never go full Johnston!

Jesse

Quote from: Tecno on July 03, 2026, 01:12:57 AMThat's easy.  Nield and Demski are the only guys he looks at.  And White in the redzone.  And Brady for the draw screen / dump pass / bail out, of course.

Pokey in his wide-out position gets a look only on the rare occasion we decide to "go for it" and Zach gets the match-up he likes -- IOW, rarely.

Everyone else is just an afterthought.  And between Nield & Demski his favorite changes based on who the D is double-covering and who shows the hot hand early in the game.  Zach is 100% a hot-hand guy -- he picks his favorite early every game.  And if you whiff early, God help you, because you'll be invisible to him later on.


I am saying there are 5 separate players that have received very similar targets. How far down his reads do you expect him to look?
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on July 03, 2026, 02:08:08 PMI am saying there are 5 separate players that have received very similar targets. How far down his reads do you expect him to look?

Turns out he has at least five favourite targets. ;D

Can't say I understand where the narrative comes from that he fixates on targets; there's really no evidence to support it.
It's craptacular.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Tecno on July 03, 2026, 01:07:37 AMThat's actually a great idea.  I'd give it to Elgersma.  We're going to lose no matter what anyhow.  Let's save Zach getting beaten up (especially if Wallace is out and there's yet another OL shuffle -- unless we plug in Vant).  AND we get to see what Elgersma can offer -- and if HE stinks it all up then he certainly can't pout being moved to RR all season in favor of Dru.

And if Elgersma lights it up and is RIGHT NOW the next Rourke, we have a season-long option of parking Zach and rolling with our new star NAT QB.  Ya, that's not going to happen, but one can dream.


I think realistically you'd have to platoon them. Elgersma would need simplified looks and choices.

What we lose in experience we gain in athletics and arm talent.

It would look quite a bit different but I don't think it would be significantly worse. Zach's actual offensive output has been pretty modest the last two seasons most nights. I've seen enough that I don't think he's going to elevate enough to beat any of the monsters playing QB right now.

Pete

Playing against Hamilton this weekend,, and Toronto next , teams have figured out our secondary . With the way offences are lighting it up I would suhgest that the best way to slow em down is to get creative in how we pressure the qb Likely the next move in adjustments.
Sure we will get burnt but its better than what we are seeing right now across the league


Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on July 03, 2026, 01:09:59 AMIf he has a private jet so total time away from the team is 7-8 hours, AND he wins against league-best HAM in a dominating fashion (i.e. not just ST/D luck), then I say all is forgiven and I won't care one whit.

But we all know the latter will not happen.

If your stipulation BinBC is so strict, be prepared to be severely disappointed!!  P.S. I'm more on your side about this than not.


I see today is the actual wedding day and the Bombers don't play until Sunday, if Zach leaves after practice today, he won't be cutting out on his responsibilities and he could be back in Hamilton ready to go the night before the game.

As long as he doesn't perform as if he has a hangover all should be good, but if the game goes worse than many already expect it will go, it could become a contentious focal point if the season as a whole also disappoints.  Imagine if the QB invited to the party was Chad Kelly, Yahoo!!!!



Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 03, 2026, 04:57:30 PMI see today is the actual wedding day and the Bombers don't play until Sunday, if Zach leaves after practice today, he won't be cutting out on his responsibilities and he could be back in Hamilton ready to go the night before the game.

As long as he doesn't perform as if he has a hangover all should be good, but if the game goes worse than many already expect it will go, it could become a contentious focal point if the season as a whole also disappoints.  Imagine if the QB invited to the party was Chad Kelly, Yahoo!!!!




If he leaves after practice, then it might be alright. The point was more to whether he'd miss a practice and potentially arrive late and / or unprepared due to missing practice.

We don't even know if he is in fact going, but I guess we'll find out.
One game at a time