Who won Brown trade

Started by Blueforlife, June 24, 2026, 12:15:07 AM

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Who won the deal?

Wpg
20 (69%)
Ott
6 (20.7%)
Tie (the CFL called me and wanted me to mention, no ties in football lol)
3 (10.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Blueforlife

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 26, 2026, 05:56:29 PMHow can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?
It's at this time, we can revist each year if we want
Quote from: Pigskin on June 26, 2026, 08:11:51 PMAgree.
Disagree

Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 26, 2026, 05:56:29 PMHow can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?

We're not asking whether he will be good or not to see if we won the trade. The question is the price. 2 first rounders is very steep indeed.

Looking at only the price, one would have to conclude dru will not only start eventually but be as good as Alexander and Rourke. And I'm pretty sure dru's ceiling is maybe a bit above matt Nichols.

So by that calculus I say we lost the trade. Especially when you factor in we could have got him for less. The only way I'd change my mind is if Zach misses many games and dru manages to win over 500, AND we're still in contention for a deep playoff run.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2026, 02:29:33 PMAnd cue another unhinged overreaction at 3 am. :-\

LOL, you haven't figured out yet that I'm up all night every night?  3am is like noon for me.  There ain't no unhinged coming from over here.  If you want unhinged, you need to catch me at 9am.

I'm not quite sure you even understand what's going on here.

Here's my quote, which you quoted:

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

Let's define "early draft rounds" as round 1 or 2, sound fair?  Include the 25-snap supplemental draft if you like.  <check>

Now look again at Aard's handy list (thank Aards).  Let's define "used to regularly pick".  Aards shows 6 top picks in 7 years.  Ya, that fits "regularly".  <check>

And the coup de grace, it's been 5 years since Dobson.  Not a single "early draft round" pick of OL by us in the whole stretch of 2022-now: 5 straight drafts in a row.  Does that fit "haven't in years"?  Sure does.  <check>

So unless you have no understanding of English and logic, go post a snarky meme to yourself.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2026, 02:29:33 PMLooking at the Bombers' draft selections since Walters became GM, the results in the first four rounds appear mixed:

I have no idea whatsoever what your nice little list of non-OL DPs is supposed to be proving.  But it certainly has zero to do with my statement, which you quoted.

If you're trying to say the 2014-2021 OL DPs were mixed... uh, I don't know what to tell you.  Every last one was a very good starter for us, many in year 1.  2 retired early and the rest went on to massive $$ and success in FA.  And all but 1 of those is still playing at a high level.

In fact, as an aside, most of our OL DPs up until '21 were so good that they overshadow all of our NAT OL since.  If you had Desjar Couture Dobson as your interior right now, you'd be the best OL by a mile.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2026, 02:29:33 PMWalters' methodology seems pretty consistent: draft the best available at positions of need.

That's all well and good, and your list is interesting, but it literally has nothing to do with what I posted, and what you quoted, about the change in how we handle OL drafting.  And that's what you snark-memed at me.

Maybe you should have tried arguing the merits rather than posting a childish drawing.  Because maybe you had an interesting, legitimate, divergent line of conversation to proffer.  But now, no one cares.
Never go full Johnston!

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 08:28:19 AMBut now, no one cares.

The rest of your snide and defensive reply seems to contradict that.

I hope you can lighten up a bit and enjoy the weekend.
"I know why you seek solitude."

Is this the bad place?

Waffler

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:57:50 AMWe're not asking whether he will be good or not to see if we won the trade. The question is the price. 2 first rounders is very steep indeed.

I thought the price was a steal. We don't lose the 1st rounder for nothing, we got back Ott's 2nd rounder which currently is pick #10 overall. Likely gonna stay that way too.

The other pick is conditional which if Brown does well, no one will mind.

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