Who won Brown trade

Started by Blueforlife, June 24, 2026, 12:15:07 AM

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Who won the deal?

Wpg
20 (69%)
Ott
6 (20.7%)
Tie (the CFL called me and wanted me to mention, no ties in football lol)
3 (10.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Pete

#30
Cdn draft
Nkanu ( we traded down to get Clercius and Ike)

Fortin. and Carson  We selected Shay

Any of the above would have been better than who we selected. And with not having a 1st round pick next year its not gonna improve. Also i think Wallace is s free agent after this year.


blue_gold_84

Quote from: Tecno on June 26, 2026, 07:44:24 AMThanks Aards.  You saved me 20 mins of research to complement my memory, and clearly your memory was better than some others!  It's even more than I remembered!  I had forgotten The Goose.

@blue_gold_84 & @GOLDMEMBER, you want to rethink that lame gif?  Consider this your heapful of Told You So.

And yes, the fact that our high-pick drafting stopped in '21 is the reason our OL can't run block to save its life, needs 3 IMPs, and has zero starter-material depth.

And cue another unhinged overreaction at 3 am. :-\

Looking at the Bombers' draft selections since Walters became GM, the results in the first four rounds appear mixed:

(bold denotes active with the Bombers, * denotes active with another team, ^ denotes inactive/retired, )

2014
first round: 2 - Goossen^ (OL)
second round: 17 - Briggs^ (LB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 29 - Jones^ (DB)

2015
first round: 2 - Chungh^ (OL)
second round: 11 - Richards^ (WR), 15 - Morgan^ (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 33 - Normand^ (RB/FB)

2016
first round: 9 - Corney^ (DL)
second round: 10 - Couture* (OL)
third round: 19 - Loffler^ (DB)
fourth round: 28 - Gauthier^ (LB)

2017
first round: 1 - Ekakitie^ (DL), 8 - Gray^ (OL)
second round: 15 - Spooner^ (OL)
third round: 23 - Conteh^ (DB)
fourth round: 34 - Menard-Briere^ (K)

2018
first round: N/A
second round: 12 - Simonise^ (WR)
third round: 26 - Petermann^ (WR)
fourth round: 33 - Gendron-Dumouchel^ (OL)

2019
first round: 4 - Desjarlais* (OL), 5 - Kongbo* (DL)
second round: 14 - Oliveira (RB)
third round: 25 - Griffiths^ (DL)
fourth round: 34 - Eli (OL)

2020
first round: N/A
second round: 18 - Hallett^ (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 37 - O'Leary-Orange* (WR)

2021
first round: 3 - Dobson* (OL)
second round: 16 - Kramdi (DB)
third round: 21 - Rene* (DB)
fourth round: 34 - Lowes^ (LB)

2022
first round: N/A
second round: 13 - Ford* (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 38 - Adamson^ (DB)

2023
first round: 8 - Bennett^ (DL)
second round: 15 - Kelly (DB)
third round: 26 - Murphy^ (WR)
fourth round: 35 - Schmekel (DL)

2024
first round: N/A
second round: 17 - Wallace (OL)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 37 - Leroux (LS)

2025
first round: 6 - Shay (LB)
second round: 15 - Smith (LB), 18 - Elgersma (QB)
third round: 27 - Vibert (OL)
fourth round: N/A

2026
first round: 4 - Gatkuoth (DL)
second round: 10 - Daniels (TE), 20 - Cline (OL)
third round: 24 - Bouliane (LB)
fourth round: 33 - Stuart (DB)

Walters' methodology seems pretty consistent: draft the best available at positions of need.

Kudos to @theaardvark and his rudimentary work, but I'm not sure how it supports your outlandish claims.

Do I want to rethink the lame silly .gif I posted?

"I know why you seek solitude."

Is this the bad place?

Sir Blue and Gold

First of all, your silly rude memes need to be banned. Secondly, your copy/paste proves Aadvark's (and others) point is entirely probably valid: Walters needs to go back to prioritizing the offensive line. We haven't drafted an OL with a first round pick in FIVE years and only ONE since 2020. The interior struggled last night and for the majority of 2025.

kkc60

well that first round pick could be 2-3 overall if this is the best the team can do

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 26, 2026, 03:50:26 PMFirst of all, your silly rude memes need to be banned. Secondly, your copy/paste proves Aadvark's (and others) point is entirely probably valid: Walters needs to go back to prioritizing the offensive line. We haven't drafted an OL with a first round pick in FIVE years and only ONE since 2020. The interior struggled last night and for the majority of 2025.

If you're so offended by such innocuous things, feel free to report my post.

You state that a point is probably valid but then fail to explain how. Who would you have preferred to see get drafted in the last five years in the OL class? It's easier to draft coveted OL prospects when you're drafting higher up, but that hasn't really been an option for this team in recent years on account of its sustained success.

Poring through the Bombers' draft picks with Walters as GM, the team has drafted 12 OL out of 47 total selections going back to 2014.

Broxton was a solid addition this past off-season, but losing players to free agency recently has been an issue (see Hardrick, Dobson, Couture), and the unit itself has some key pieces that are aging out (Bryant, Neufeld).

Prioritizing the O-line and addressing its struggles takes a whole lot more than just drafting, IMO.
"I know why you seek solitude."

Is this the bad place?

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2026, 02:29:33 PMAnd cue another unhinged overreaction at 3 am. :-\

Looking at the Bombers' draft selections since Walters became GM, the results in the first four rounds appear mixed:

(bold denotes active with the Bombers, * denotes active with another team, ^ denotes inactive/retired, )

2014
first round: 2 - Goossen^ (OL)
second round: 17 - Briggs^ (LB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 29 - Jones^ (DB)

2015
first round: 2 - Chungh^ (OL)
second round: 11 - Richards^ (WR), 15 - Morgan^ (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 33 - Normand^ (RB/FB)

2016
first round: 9 - Corney^ (DL)
second round: 10 - Couture* (OL)
third round: 19 - Loffler^ (DB)
fourth round: 28 - Gauthier^ (LB)

2017
first round: 1 - Ekakitie^ (DL), 8 - Gray^ (OL)
second round: 15 - Spooner^ (OL)
third round: 23 - Conteh^ (DB)
fourth round: 34 - Menard-Briere^ (K)

2018
first round: N/A
second round: 12 - Simonise^ (WR)
third round: 26 - Petermann^ (WR)
fourth round: 33 - Gendron-Dumouchel^ (OL)

2019
first round: 4 - Desjarlais* (OL), 5 - Kongbo* (DL)
second round: 14 - Oliveira (RB)
third round: 25 - Griffiths^ (DL)
fourth round: 34 - Eli (OL)

2020
first round: N/A
second round: 18 - Hallett^ (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 37 - O'Leary-Orange* (WR)

2021
first round: 3 - Dobson* (OL)
second round: 16 - Kramdi (DB)
third round: 21 - Rene* (DB)
fourth round: 34 - Lowes^ (LB)

2022
first round: N/A
second round: 13 - Ford* (DB)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 38 - Adamson^ (DB)

2023
first round: 8 - Bennett^ (DL)
second round: 15 - Kelly (DB)
third round: 26 - Murphy^ (WR)
fourth round: 35 - Schmekel (DL)

2024
first round: N/A
second round: 17 - Wallace (OL)
third round: N/A
fourth round: 37 - Leroux (LS)

2025
first round: 6 - Shay (LB)
second round: 15 - Smith (LB), 18 - Elgersma (QB)
third round: 27 - Vibert (OL)
fourth round: N/A

2026
first round: 4 - Gatkuoth (DL)
second round: 10 - Daniels (TE), 20 - Cline (OL)
third round: 24 - Bouliane (LB)
fourth round: 33 - Stuart (DB)

Walters' methodology seems pretty consistent: draft the best available at positions of need.

Kudos to @theaardvark and his rudimentary work, but I'm not sure how it supports your outlandish claims.

Do I want to rethink the lame silly .gif I posted?



Somehow you missed Giovanni Manu, the Bombers fifth round draft pick form the 2024 draft, currently with the Detroit Lions. I predict Manu and Kelvin Cline will be showing up to reinforce the CDN content on the O-line by next year if not this season.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 26, 2026, 05:16:52 PMSomehow you missed Giovanni Manu, the Bombers fifth round draft pick form the 2024 draft, currently with the Detroit Lions. I predict Manu and Kelvin Cline will be showing up to reinforce the CDN content on the O-line by next year if not this season.

Yes.  It seems that Walters switched to taking late round, higher end prospects with questionable CFL interest rather than early less ceiling sure CFL Oline.
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Sir Blue and Gold

#37
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 26, 2026, 04:51:43 PMIf you're so offended by such innocuous things, feel free to report my post.

You state that a point is probably valid but then fail to explain how. Who would you have preferred to see get drafted in the last five years in the OL class? It's easier to draft coveted OL prospects when you're drafting higher up, but that hasn't really been an option for this team in recent years on account of its sustained success.

Poring through the Bombers' draft picks with Walters as GM, the team has drafted 12 OL out of 47 total selections going back to 2014.

Broxton was a solid addition this past off-season, but losing players to free agency recently has been an issue (see Hardrick, Dobson, Couture), and the unit itself has some key pieces that are aging out (Bryant, Neufeld).

Prioritizing the O-line and addressing its struggles takes a whole lot more than just drafting, IMO.

I'm not going to and I don't care if no one else does,

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on June 26, 2026, 02:29:12 PMCdn draft
Nkanu ( we traded down to get Clercius and Ike)

Fortin. and Carson  We selected Shay

Any of the above would have been better than who we selected. And with not having a 1st round pick next year its not gonna improve. Also i think Wallace is s free agent after this year.

They can't let Wallace get away, he's going to attain legendary status if he can remain healthy, he's an absolute beast.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 26, 2026, 05:16:52 PMSomehow you missed Giovanni Manu, the Bombers fifth round draft pick form the 2024 draft, currently with the Detroit Lions. I predict Manu and Kelvin Cline will be showing up to reinforce the CDN content on the O-line by next year if not this season.

I opted to cover just the first four rounds of each draft, so thanks for mentioning him. I'll admit I don't know how he's faring in the NFL, but I'm sure he'd be welcome addition to this team.
"I know why you seek solitude."

Is this the bad place?

TBURGESS

How can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?
Plan for the worst. Hope for the best.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 26, 2026, 05:56:29 PMHow can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?

...Or how close to #1 the first rounder becomes.

Pigskin

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 26, 2026, 05:56:29 PMHow can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?

Agree.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

bunker

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 26, 2026, 05:56:29 PMHow can anyone say if we won or lost the Brown trade before he plays a down?
It speculation and opinion...like 99% of the content on this board.

dd

I for one think we one the trade. Draft picks are at best a crap shoot. In Brown we got a gun slinger who can and likely will succeed Collaros, so we have our future #1 Qb in house right now.

I think he got a raw deal in Ottawa. They were terribly coached and lacked talent to be competitive. Jake Maier is going to be a disaster there just like he was in Calgary, and MBT will fair no better as he's had years to prove himself and all he does is get yanked, and we scooped Brown, perfect.