Who won Brown trade

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Was that original draft pick from the Dante Daniels move in the draft?

Yes.

[dd]

Draft picks are a crap shoot. I have no idea why Dinwiddie didn't go with Brown, the obvious choice as the #1 Qb in Ottawa, but Maier is going nowhere there, ditto for MBT, but that's their problem not ours.

If Zach Collaros got hurt next game, Dru Brown will run our offense no problem. He knows the CFL game far better than Perkins, so while its a loss, if its between Perkins or Brown, I take Brown all day long.

Things just got waaay better in Bomberville!! We went from Strevy as our #2 to Brown, unbelievable really!!

[Waffler]

If Zach Collaros got hurt next game, Dru Brown will run our offense no problem. He knows the CFL game far better than Perkins, so while its a loss, if its between Perkins or Brown, I take Brown all day long.

He's worked with Condell before too. Very short learning curve here.

[Tecno]

And the 2028 second round pick that we send to them is conditional, but the condition is that it is upgraded to our first round pick in 2028 if Dru plays enough for us in 2027.
So not quite as good as you think, but still worth it IMO.

Where did you hear our conditional can be upgraded to a 2028 1RDP?? that's news to me. That would be horrible, although that could be proof we plan on Zach playing in 2027.

I lamented our dire OL pipeline situation. If we lose the first in both years that could really put us in a bind.

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

[kkc60]

Where did you hear our conditional can be upgraded to a 2028 1RDP?? that's news to me. That would be horrible, although that could be proof we plan on Zach playing in 2027.

I lamented our dire OL pipeline situation. If we lose the first in both years that could really put us in a bind.

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

I think if possible, they will need to spend big bucks in FA on Canadians. They should've a little while ago. Crazy how quickly we went from the best OL in the league to probably bottom 3 (especially in run blocking)

[theaardvark]

Draft picks are a crap shoot. I have no idea why Dinwiddie didn't go with Brown, the obvious choice as the #1 Qb in Ottawa, but Maier is going nowhere there, ditto for MBT, but that's their problem not ours.

If Zach Collaros got hurt next game, Dru Brown will run our offense no problem. He knows the CFL game far better than Perkins, so while its a loss, if its between Perkins or Brown, I take Brown all day long.

Things just got waaay better in Bomberville!! We went from Strevy as our #2 to Brown, unbelievable really!!

The answer to "Why not Brown" is on Maier's Wiki page:

Dan Hawkins, Maier's head coach at UC Davis, mentioned to Maier that he could potentially flourish in the Canadian Football League. Following Maier's 2017 season at UC Davis, Hawkins reached out to Ryan Dinwiddie,[3] who had played quarterback for Hawkins at Boise State University from 2001 to 2003, and had been on Hawkins' coaching staff with the Montreal Alouettes in 2013.[4] Hawkins told Dinwiddie, who was coaching quarterbacks with the Calgary Stampeders at the time, "you'd better put this kid on your [negotiation] list cause he's legit. He's got the 'it' factor. He has what I call the 'rage to master.'"[3] The Stampeders added Maier to their negotiation list in 2018.[3]

On May 5, 2020, after completing his college career, Maier signed with the Calgary Stampeders.[5] However, he did not play that year due to the cancellation of the 2020 CFL season.

[blue_gold_84]

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

[GOLDMEMBER]

[Blueforlife]

I think if possible, they will need to spend big bucks in FA on Canadians. They should've a little while ago. Crazy how quickly we went from the best OL in the league to probably bottom 3 (especially in run blocking)

We have a retooled OL, it's ranking is unknown at this time.  while yes it used to a pillar of our club, I don't think you are giving them enough time to determine how good this group is and how it ranks in the CFL.  We will know by mid season.  Gut tells me it will be a middle pack OL that only strengthens over the season (if healthy).

game 1 good run game
game 2 terrible run game

sample size insufficient to claim we are bottom 3 imo

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I think if possible, they will need to spend big bucks in FA on Canadians. They should've a little while ago. Crazy how quickly we went from the best OL in the league to probably bottom 3 (especially in run blocking)

The only thing behind Vibert at this time is 2 or 3 draft picks wasting away pursuing NFL dreams.  When is it going to register with these players that less than 5% will be lucky to catch a ride on a PR merry-go-round that spins fast and spits them out if they did not play for a big NCAA school.

[theaardvark]

Where did you hear our conditional can be upgraded to a 2028 1RDP?? that's news to me. That would be horrible, although that could be proof we plan on Zach playing in 2027.

I lamented our dire OL pipeline situation. If we lose the first in both years that could really put us in a bind.

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

Since we took Labatte in the first round in 2008:

2012 Ty Pencer
(Walters takes over)
2014 Mathias Goossen
2015 Suk Chungh
2016 Couture (2nd pick, 2nd round)
2017 Gray (2nd pick, 1st round 9th overall, Ekakite first overall)
2019 Dejarlais
2021 Dobson

Yes, Walters rebuilt a crap oline by picking OL first or second for 6 of his first 8 years.  Looks like his focus has changed, though.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

For me it's a no brainer.....we win the trade and get a proven CFL commodity back that we invested several years developing behind Zach.   Zach is most likely in the final stages of his career and what an opportunity for Dru to have him as a mentor before Zach hangs them up!   Big win for the Bombers and as far as Dinwiddie and the RBs are concerned....good luck with Maier and MBT as your #1 and #2 QBs!

[bunker]

Where did you hear our conditional can be upgraded to a 2028 1RDP?? that's news to me. That would be horrible, although that could be proof we plan on Zach playing in 2027.

I lamented our dire OL pipeline situation. If we lose the first in both years that could really put us in a bind.

We used to regularly pick ol in early draft rounds. Haven't in years, and it shows.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/article/brown-trade-solves-problems-for-bombers-and-redblacks/

Naylor

[Tecno]

Since we took Labatte in the first round in 2008:

2012 Ty Pencer
(Walters takes over)
2014 Mathias Goossen
2015 Suk Chungh
2016 Couture (2nd pick, 2nd round)
2017 Gray (2nd pick, 1st round 9th overall, Ekakite first overall)
2019 Dejarlais
2021 Dobson

Thanks Aards.  You saved me 20 mins of research to complement my memory, and clearly your memory was better than some others!  It's even more than I remembered!  I had forgotten The Goose.

@blue_gold_84 & @GOLDMEMBER, you want to rethink that lame gif?  Consider this your heapful of Told You So.

And yes, the fact that our high-pick drafting stopped in '21 is the reason our OL can't run block to save its life, needs 3 IMPs, and has zero starter-material depth.

[Waffler]

It's a good list. I'd like to see the list of OL we have lost to free agency. Finally this year we got one ourselves in Broxton but he is an import.