Younger's defense

Started by Pete, June 12, 2026, 01:46:55 PM

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which do you think is the case with Youngers defense

Its fine just needs time
3 (10%)
its stagnant opposing offences have now figured it out
17 (56.7%)
Its fine it just needs better personnel (and where)
2 (6.7%)
Its always been bad
8 (26.7%)

Total Members Voted: 30

Voting closes: June 19, 2026, 01:46:55 PM

Jesse

Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2026, 01:41:24 PMDid the Bombers offered Houston a contact this off season? And if so, did BC and then Ottawa just out bid us for his services.

I very much doubt they offered him a contract.
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Waffler

Younger wants guys to fit into his system rather than tailor the system to the talent that is here. So far Condell has tailored his system to the talent here. Kudos to him.

MOS, Hall and Younger all played for and were influenced by Rich Stubler. Bend but don't break Stubler. He won some Cups but also got fired lots. To me the system seems ancient, effective against the lesser QB's only.
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TBURGESS

I haven't seen a good defence anywhere this year. Last night both QB's threw for more than 400 yards. 
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Waffler

Quote from: Jesse on June 13, 2026, 03:05:30 PMI very much doubt they offered him a contract.
Reportedly 3 teams were interested. Maybe we were out bid. He signed a one year deal, probably Ottawa offered the most cash.
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Pigskin

Quote from: Waffler on June 13, 2026, 03:32:19 PMReportedly 3 teams were interested. Maybe we were out bid. He signed a one year deal, probably Ottawa offered the most cash.

Reports had him signing with BC. But, BC backed out of the deal so he moved on to Ottawa.

Bonds would be another interesting player when he is 100%.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2026, 03:40:53 PMReports had him signing with BC. But, BC backed out of the deal so he moved on to Ottawa.

Bonds would be another interesting player when he is 100%.

I wouldn't rule out bringing Bonds back he's healthy. I'm not sure he will be healthy until LD but he could be a good add at that point of the season.

One game at a time

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 13, 2026, 03:47:45 PMI wouldn't rule out bringing Bonds back he's healthy. I'm not sure he will be healthy until LD but he could be a good add at that point of the season.



I'm sure O'Shea will give Bonds another shot, that seems to be his policy for injured players. Somewhat appalled they gave Nield Schoen's #83 while he's still rehabbing.  Could be the number doesn't mean anything to anyone involved but the Bombers owe him some courtesy for the contribution he made.

As for Houston the Bombers pulled him off the couch mid-season and were probably able to sign him for close to minimum, pay bumps for Kramdi, Nichols and Holms and the signing of Moxie left enough budget for one rookie.  With 4 well paid vets, this is possibly the most expensive secondary in the CFL.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 13, 2026, 03:47:45 PMI wouldn't rule out bringing Bonds back he's healthy. I'm not sure he will be healthy until LD but he could be a good add at that point of the season.



Can he cover for 9 seconds any better than anyone else?

Blueforlife

If 100% healthy and back close to game speed Bonds is a very good option. 

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 13, 2026, 07:02:14 PMIf 100% healthy and back close to game speed Bonds is a very good option. 

He'd still have to wait his turn for an injury to occur, Moxey signed for 2 years, so they won't be quick to give up on him.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 13, 2026, 07:08:48 PMHe'd still have to wait his turn for an injury to occur, Moxey signed for 2 years, so they won't be quick to give up on him.

Wiiliams isn't exactly a lock and we could change the ratio to add a DB as a DI. Moxey will adjust and just had a slow and bad start.
One game at a time

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 13, 2026, 07:34:20 PMWiiliams isn't exactly a lock and we could change the ratio to add a DB as a DI. Moxey will adjust and just had a slow and bad start.

I can't see it, Vaval is the backup, how are they going to change the ratio on defence when they only require 2 Natl's?  Secondary depth is thin, if any of the 3 inside guys go down they could be in trouble till Allen gets back, although I guess Griffin could fill in anywhere but corner.  Don't understand why they let Dexter Lawson go, he was capable of playing multiple positions and would probably be content with a PR spot seeing as nobody picked him up yet.

theaardvark

If there was a significant issue with JY and his scheme, I would think we'd have an issue keeping guys like Willie, Holm, Kramdi and signing guys like Ceresna, Moxie, JSK...

Having Hall there to help should make the adjustments for next game easier. 

We need the front office SMS to be raised with the new TV money.  Our D had JY, Hall, Stanley (part time) and rookie coach Thomas.  I guess Osh is lending a hand, but still, I think that we could use at least 2 more dedicated D coaches.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 13, 2026, 07:49:58 PMI can't see it, Vaval is the backup, how are they going to change the ratio on defence when they only require 2 Natl's?  Secondary depth is thin, if any of the 3 inside guys go down they could be in trouble till Allen gets back, although I guess Griffin could fill in anywhere but corner.  Don't understand why they let Dexter Lawson go, he was capable of playing multiple positions and would probably be content with a PR spot seeing as nobody picked him up yet.

In the last game we added an extra DL as a DI. It was Reese. However the premise is whether Williams improves or a healthy Bonds is a better option mid season.

I'm not saying Williams can't develop and become a good CB. It's just an one example how we could change the ratio.

The other as mentioned repeatedly is Ayers. Great on ST's but that's just not enough. Any extra import DB is a better option than putting Kelly in the secondary. We're not getting any extra pressure from Ayers, so I'd be ok with adding Texada after the bye.

ST's are import but we have 12 players that can sub in.
One game at a time

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 13, 2026, 08:28:18 PMIn the last game we added an extra DL as a DI. It was Reese. However the premise is whether Williams improves or a healthy Bonds is a better option mid season.

I'm not saying Williams can't develop and become a good CB. It's just an one example how we could change the ratio.

The other as mentioned repeatedly is Ayers. Great on ST's but that's just not enough. Any extra import DB is a better option than putting Kelly in the secondary. We're not getting any extra pressure from Ayers, so I'd be ok with adding Texada after the bye.

ST's are import but we have 12 players that can sub in.
Williams will be ok I think, only time will tell.
Ayers>Texada imo but close call there.
Reese make any plays?