Younger's defense

[Blueforlife]

Simple question: why are other top teams clicking & humming perfectly and we're sputtering?  Other years everyone was sputtering, or, like 2021 we were the ones being perfect in week 1.

HAM & SSK are ready for GC football today.  MTL too, probably.  BC on its way.  TOR even up there.  My hunch is EDM got lucky twice... but if they win the next 2 then lump them in with the "working perfectly from week 1" group.

It can't all be continuity.  No one had super continuity, except maybe SSK on O.  Doesn't explain HAM with half their O changed.  And our continuity has been OK-ish.

The one saving grace: CGY is in the same boat as us.

Two games in car just got plugged in, let her warm up a bit and the stuttering will settle down

[Blue In BC]

Two games in car just got plugged in, let her warm up a bit and the stuttering will settle down

Or a fire is started and it burns to the ground. It's 2 games following a 10-8 season and a 4th place finish.

The game against the Elks could be a turning point but in which direction. Do we shut Rankin down or does he rush for another 150+ yards?

[blue_gold_84]

Two games in car just got plugged in, let her warm up a bit and the stuttering will settle down

If the car isn't already running optimally now that the race is underway, that's a problem.

Tomorrow should be a good test. The Bombers need to be up to the task in every phase of their game.

[Blueforlife]

If the car isn't already running optimally now that the race is underway, that's a problem.

Tomorrow should be a good test. The Bombers need to be up to the task in every phase of their game.

This early in the race 🏁 don't rule out a pit stop

Or a fire is started and it burns to the ground. It's 2 games following a 10-8 season and a 4th place finish.

The game against the Elks could be a turning point but in which direction. Do we shut Rankin down or does he rush for another 150+ yards?

Or too early to declare a season a failure

Or coming off many years of successful play

Or with an upcoming season with a much better offense

Glass can be half full but some have thrown it out the window too early in frustration imo

Stay away from the edge, seen this level of worry before our mini dynasty run, somethings never change around here
 

[Blue In BC]

This early in the race 🏁 don't rule out a pit stopOr too early to declare a season a failure

Or coming off many years of successful play

Or with an upcoming season with a much better offense

Glass can be half full but some have thrown it out the window too early in frustration imo

Stay away from the edge, seen this level of worry before our mini dynasty run, somethings never change around here
 

I didn't say the season is a failure but many of us continue to point out systemic issues over an extended period of time.  The last 2 seasons and 2026.  The slide started in 2024 IMO.

You can't stick your head in the sand.

Talk to me after the Elks game. If we can't stop the run and can't pressure the QB more than we have so far in 2026, then we've have problems.

[Blueforlife]

I didn't say the season is a failure but many of us continue to point out systemic issues over an extended period of time.  The last 2 seasons and 2026.  The slide started in 2024 IMO.

You can't stick your head in the sand.

Talk to me after the Elks game. If we can't stop the run and can't pressure the QB more than we have so far in 2026, then we've have problems.

And I quote

"Or a fire is started and it burns to the ground"

Sounds like a failure prediction to me

I have pointed about success over a long period of time, yes we sliding but too early to say what we are yet

After the Elks game regardless of the outcome my position will remain the same, we don't know what we got till 1/4 or 1/2 way.

We pressured the QB fine game 1, game 2 not so much.  Your sample size is not sufficient to draw conclusions (yet).

Stopping the run is critical, we won't stop Rankin, might limit the damage.  We will get some pressure Cody good at limiting that. Will be better than last game imo.

Head ain't in the sand, sand ain't deep enough at game 2 for that, can't stick your neck over the ledge. Try looking up not down.  Fill your cup to a 1/4 just for me.  Pour it on my head if we suck but just give her time.  We got lots of bird in the freezer as needed.  I don't think I'll be eating it this year.  Already had my Kramdi bird

The forum mood would almost benefit more from the win than the team lol.

[Blue In BC]

And I quote

"Or a fire is started and it burns to the ground"

Sounds like a failure prediction to me

I have pointed about success over a long period of time, yes we sliding but too early to say what we are yet

After the Elks game regardless of the outcome my position will remain the same, we don't know what we got till 1/4 or 1/2 way.

We pressured the QB fine game 1, game 2 not so much.  Your sample size is not sufficient to draw conclusions (yet).

Stopping the run is critical, we won't stop Rankin, might limit the damage.  We will get some pressure Cody good at limiting that. Will be better than last game imo.

Head ain't in the sand, sand ain't deep enough at game 2 for that, can't stick your neck over the ledge. Try looking up not down.  Fill your cup to a 1/4 just for me.  Pour it on my head if we suck but just give her time.  We got lots of bird in the freezer as needed.  I don't think I'll be eating it this year.  Already had my Kramdi bird

The forum mood would almost benefit more from the win than the team lol.

The key word being " Or ". How is that different than you predicting it's not a problem?

Again. I'm not talking about 2 games this season. It goes back into all of 2025 and before. Against good QB's we struggle against the pass and against good RB's we have issues.

Game 3 is a test and it's not just about whether we win or lose. It's whether we look competitive of whether we look lost. Are we improving or not etc etc. Do we allow another 100+ yard TD drive when we're trying to get the ball back for our offence. Can we establish the run game. There are meany measuring sticks.

Teams can lose games they play well and vice versa.

[kkc60]

The defense of late has been bad. No sugarcoating it. It was bad before and became good. Maybe that happens again. But anything that happened a year ago + is much less relevant than what we have seen the past two games

[Blueforlife]

The key word being " Or ". How is that different than you predicting it's not a problem?

Again. I'm not talking about 2 games this season. It goes back into all of 2025 and before. Against good QB's we struggle against the pass and against good RB's we have issues.

Game 3 is a test and it's not just about whether we win or lose. It's whether we look competitive of whether we look lost. Are we improving or not etc etc. Do we allow another 100+ yard TD drive when we're trying to get the ball back for our offence. Can we establish the run game. There are meany measuring sticks.

Teams can lose games they play well and vice versa.

The difference is the back track

I believe its too early to know, never said its not a problem, I have clearly presented my position on the D and some of its issues.  You have been crapping on the d and schemes and then mentioned the fire.

Agree with most of rest.  Good pts.

I reserve my judgment on this club till 1/4 1/2 way.

Last season we had a O problem not a D problem, look up the stats, facts.

The defense of late has been bad. No sugarcoating it. It was bad before and became good. Maybe that happens again. But anything that happened a year ago + is much less relevant than what we have seen the past two games

Agree most

Will be fun to see how the story unfolds, I have an open mind in this regard

Cautiously optimistic

[Blue In BC]

The difference is the back track

I believe its too early to know, never said its not a problem, I have clearly presented my position on the D and some of its issues.  You have been crapping on the d and schemes and then mentioned the fire.

Agree with most of rest.  Good pts.

I reserve my judgment on this club till 1/4 1/2 way.

Last season we had a O problem not a D problem, look up the stats, facts.
Agree most

Will be fun to see how the story unfolds, I have an open mind in this regard

Cautiously optimistic

The defence was good against bad teams. It was not good against good teams. We lost all the games we played against Regina and Calgary. That's the point. We finished 10 - 8 in 4th as a crossover team. Feel free to look up systemic.

In 2026 we beat a team that is now 0 - 2. We lost to a team that is now 2 - 0. See the pattern? Patience is not always a solution.

Zero back track from me. Read what the other posters are saying before, during and since TC.

[Blueforlife]

The defence was good against bad teams. It was not good against good teams. We lost all the games we played against Regina and Calgary. That's the point. We finished 10 - 8 in 4th as a crossover team. Feel free to look up systemic.

In 2026 we beat a team that is now 0 - 2. We lost to a team that is now 2 - 0. See the pattern? Patience is not always a solution.

Zero back track from me. Read what the other posters are saying before, during and since TC.

The back track is on the fire comment

The D had good stats last year, numbers don't lie, O left it high and dry.

The past success anchors us, gives hope, this year team needs to pull up the pants and stomp the throat, would be nice soon but I'll be patient, always have been with this club over its current run, hasn't let me down.

There are no patterns 2 games in, the narrative that there are is oversold.

All clubs records at this stage don't mean much to me.

Forest through the trees. Deep breath.

[3rdand1.5]

Hard to compare as last years offence was really, I mean really bad.....This year they are much improved, our defence which held us in almost all games last year, has looked pretty bad to start...both Osh and Younger as well as some player interviewed have explained it as guys not executing.....yea that is a broad term, but I believe it boils down to the defensive play call was a match, but one, two or more players didn't execute as they should. whether it was inexperience, impatience or confusion....All indications are Youngers system is tough to grasp with many, many moving parts....the question is, is his system and the players we have not a fit, or can they fit together and execute what is being designed.....Cause to be honest they sure haven't looked like they can so far this season, and if we keep waiting and some losses pile up the problem only magnifies...

[Blue In BC]

The back track is on the fire comment

The D had good stats last year, numbers don't lie, O left it high and dry.

The past success anchors us, gives hope, this year team needs to pull up the pants and stomp the throat, would be nice soon but I'll be patient, always have been with this club over its current run, hasn't let me down.

There are no patterns 2 games in, the narrative that there are is oversold.

All clubs records at this stage don't mean much to me.

Forest through the trees. Deep breath.

As I said, the defence did not play well against the good teams. Look at the points against for those match ups. The cumulative effort is less relevant than the ability to play well against top opponents.

Even when the offence struggles, it doesn't mean the defence shouldn't be forcing 2 and outs the entire game. The defence is responsible to get the opponent off the field regardless of whether the offence struggles. That reduces the TOP even if the offence continues to give it back.

[Blueforlife]

As I said, the defence did not play well against the good teams. Look at the points against for those match ups. The cumulative effort is less relevant than the ability to play well against top opponents.

Even when the offence struggles, it doesn't mean the defence shouldn't be forcing 2 and outs the entire game. The defence is responsible to get the opponent off the field regardless of whether the offence struggles. That reduces the TOP even if the offence continues to give it back.

I don't agree with the narrative the D was poor full stop last year.  Check the stats, near the top in some areas.  Yes we got beat by the best but those teams also stopped our O and kept the D on the field longer.  No defense can withstand the level of suck we had on O.  We didn't have a D problem last year, we had an O problem.  A gassed D that has been on the field way too much can't force 2 and outs.  Asking for the world their.

People needed someone to whip this year with Thomas gone.  Right now they whipping the D and Younger.  Not completely warranted imo.

I stay cautiously optimistic and patient.  You can do your thing and that ok.  Lots of change this year, change takes time to settle in.

Game 2, patience, deep breath.  Everything might be ok.  Know more after a handful of games.

I judge a defense over years, you seam to be hyper focused on the short term or cherry picking games to suit a narrative that isn't based on strong factual backing. 

The goal is to not let the other team score pts.  The Bomber D did that well last year and the numbers don't lie.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Went thru last year's losses with the game score and Brady's running yds.  Games Strev. played in are noted.

Week 5 Stamps 37 to 16 13-61 yds.
Week 7 Stamps 41 to 20 15-68 yds. (Strev 3/4 game)
Week 8 Argos 31 to 17 13-82 yds. (Strev 3/4 game)
Week 10 Stamps 28 to 27 12-68 yds.
Week 13 Sask. 34 to 30 5-24 yds.
Week 14 Sask  21 to 13 20-83 yds. (Strev 1/2 game)
Week 15 Ti-Cats 32 to 21 15-116 yds. (Strev full game)
Week 19 Elks 25 to 20 12-117 yds.