Younger's defense

[Blueforlife]

His background in football got him the job. It doesn't mean he'll be a good coordinator.

Generally speaking, as you progress in your career the things that you were really good at, that got you the promotion in the first place, are not the things that define your success in the next one.

Being a good defensive back is no guarantee you'll be a good positional coach and being a good positional coach is no guarantee you'll be a good coordinator which is no guarantee you'll be a good head coach.

The skills you need and require at each level change drastically. It's true for sports, business, and just about anything else.

Missing the point imo.  He has years of experience both coaching and playing.  I firmly believe he is already a good DC who might be great one day. You are trying to resell your narrative by not acknowledging his past success and experience (see wiki for facts).  Agree to disagree.

Not that many players have the skill set to transfer from the field to coaching.  Those special skills have keep him employed as a coach for many years.

I don't believe speaking in general terms without specific facts to back your argument has advanced your position.  4 rings.  Rare company there.

[Pete]

Seems harsh.  I always used to wonder why Mafia was so darn harsh with DBs.  Fogg, Randle, Moe, Taylor... all just used up and tossed aside.  I always thought they were cut way too early.

But it turns out DBs, all but the most exceptional ones, lose it super fast & young.  Mafia used to recognize this.  They were ruthless in their cuts.

It would appear that's what we need to start doing again.  And I need to be less sentimental.  Moxey looks like Moe & Randle after their return from injury.  Nichols maybe like Fogg: just rapidly losing it.

Luckily Holm seems more like Sayles: a guy with longevity.  Major is young and could be the next big thing.  I liked Bonds and would ask him back.  Maybe splash FA at DB isn't a good idea anymore.

the defense reminds me of a previous version, where it was bad until we got an effective safwty in Alexander , right now it looks like the dbs are being asked too much, with
Kramdl being utilized to stop the run and not having the speed needed by a safety in coverage.

[Tecno]

The funny thing is, I think the D, even the DBs, would be great if we could get pressure.  Look at week 1 vs week 2.  One game we got pressure on a good QB/O and we creamed them.  The other we got zero pressure.  Nada.  Nothing.  And our DBs were eaten alive.

It's like Younger/Hall/Mafia decided the 2025 scheme was fine, and all it needed was pressure.  And so they got Ceresna, and ditched underperforming DL.  So on paper problem solved, right?

But then our pressure is negated and we're straight back to the DBs being unable to cover when the QB has all day.  And we have no plan B.

So if we're sticking with this system, we have to solve that pressure problem, even when the OL isn't giving up pressure.  Only then maybe our DBs will start to look good.  The only alternative is blowing up the system and starting from scratch.  Might we be able to sign another beast on DL?  Couch sitter?  Trade?

[dd]

the defense reminds me of a previous version, where it was bad until we got an effective safwty in Alexander , right now it looks like the dbs are being asked too much, with
Kramdl being utilized to stop the run and not having the speed needed by a safety in coverage.

Safety is a key position on D, look at how many plays Hamilton's safety has made tonight, he's a game changer. Ours is a game changer too, just in the other direction!!

[Tecno]

Safety is a key position on D, look at how many plays Hamilton's safety has made tonight, he's a game changer.

Which is weird, as Katsantonis has the wrong body type for a roving FS.  He's like a little ball of beef, not a lanky Dequoy.  And yet he's hustling his butt off to get to where the ball is going to be and make the INT/knockdown.  And he's always allowed to play the ball, not sit back to be a backup to the tackler.

Maybe half of a good FS is pure hustle.  Just move your butt fast to the ball.  And maybe a good nose for sniffing out the play to cheat to the correct side while the QB is winding up.

Something that I didn't really see out of Allen, and clearly not Kramdi yet.

[dd]

Which is weird, as Katsantonis has the wrong body type for a roving FS.  He's like a little ball of beef, not a lanky Dequoy.  And yet he's hustling his butt off to get to where the ball is going to be and make the INT/knockdown.  And he's always allowed to play the ball, not sit back to be a backup to the tackler.

Maybe half of a good FS is pure hustle.  Just move your butt fast to the ball.  And maybe a good nose for sniffing out the play to cheat to the correct side while the QB is winding up.

Something that I didn't really see out of Allen, and clearly not Kramdi yet.

Ya your safety has got to have serious speed and aggression to make plays. Kramdi is gross at the position, same with Allen. As soon as Alexander moved to safety our defense changed instantly. We need BA  II !!

[Pete]

After watching the bc/hamilton game maybe our defense isnt quite as bad as indicated, Hamiltons offense is just that good
 Having said that the concerns are still legitimate.

[Blueforlife]

After watching the bc/hamilton game maybe our defense isnt quite as bad as indicated, Hamiltons offense is just that good
 Having said that the concerns are still legitimate.

Yes we are nowhere close to being able to stop Hammy at the moment.

I wonder if the BC forums are calling for the DC's head.....

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

After watching the bc/hamilton game maybe our defense isnt quite as bad as indicated, Hamiltons offense is just that good
 Having said that the concerns are still legitimate.

Hamilton currently looks stronger than the Bombers did 3-4 years ago when Zach was dominating games, but I wouldn't put money down on a Grey Cup appearance yet, we'll see if they can keep it up as that organization has been super inconsistent over the last decade.  They're notorious for injuries along their O-line and D-line, that might be the rock that sinks their boat this season.

[Blue In BC]

To some degree, watching the TiCats destroy the Lions, I feel a little better about our problems on defence.

[Blueforlife]

Younger's record as a coach here is 94–46.  AI told me hopefully its close to being right, includes playoffs.

#facts

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Younger's record as a coach here is 94–46.  AI told me hopefully its close to being right, includes playoffs.

#facts

Why don't you pull his Pop Warner record while you're at it?   

How'd he do in middle school volleyball?

Yes,  for sure, include how he did when Richie Hall was calling plays. Maybe we should go back to that. It's a heck of a lot better record than when he has been calling them (ESPECIALLY playoffs).

[Tecno]

Younger's record as a coach here is 94–46.  AI told me hopefully its close to being right, includes playoffs.

"coach" maybe, but not DC.  He's only on year 3 or 4 as DC?  3 x roughtly-20 = 60 games total

Not arguing his record is pretty good, though.  And even at least 1 season where the D carried the O.

[Pete]

Younger's record as a coach here is 94–46.  AI told me hopefully its close to being right, includes playoffs.

#facts

the thing is the record doesnt mean much if the other teams have now figured out how to beat it .

[dd]

what is younger's record as DC you ask?? its 21 wins and 15 losses, hardly stellar stats.