Younger's defense

Started by Pete, June 12, 2026, 01:46:55 PM

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which do you think is the case with Youngers defense

Its fine just needs time
4 (11.8%)
its stagnant opposing offences have now figured it out
19 (55.9%)
Its fine it just needs better personnel (and where)
2 (5.9%)
Its always been bad
9 (26.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: June 19, 2026, 01:46:55 PM

blue_or_die

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 17, 2026, 08:37:45 PMI nominate @blue_or_die to be the new DC.

I'm not the hero this forum wanted.

Im the hero this forum deserves.
#Ride?

blue_gold_84

Quote from: blue_or_die on June 18, 2026, 03:51:16 AMI'm not the hero this forum wanted.

Im the hero this forum deserves.

It's craptacular.

markf

Sounds like.....

The Season's over.

Start planning for next season, and figure out new head coach.

You people are funny.

kkc60

Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 03:25:50 PMSounds like.....

The Season's over.

Start planning for next season, and figure out new head coach.

You people are funny.
sounds like you don't know how to interpret valid criticisms

Pete

Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 03:25:50 PMSounds like.....

The Season's over.

Start planning for next season, and figure out new head coach.

You people are funny.
thats the point to make suggestions/identify needs so the season isnt lost. What did u think a forum is for, to simply say " go Bombers go"? We have posters for that too

Blue In BC

Yes we have more injuries than normal this early that we have to adjust our roster. New players and the usual short pre season means some cohesion work in process.

It's difficult to know how well or how quickly this all works out. Nothing out of the norm.
One game at a time

markf

Quote from: kkc60 on June 18, 2026, 04:38:01 PMsounds like you don't know how to interpret valid criticisms

Clever.

Didn't see much other than criticism here lately.


blue_or_die

Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 07:20:29 PMClever.

Didn't see much other than criticism here lately.



I guess we could and maybe should do a thread on the offense for putting together a mostly good game. The problem is that it wasn't enough to make up for the defense's very poor performance. If it was a few bad plays we can complain and move on but this thread is about a greater, more systemic issue that warrants criticisms and solutions.

It's actually the opposite of wanting to blow it all up and move on - it's "what should we do to make sure this doesn't happen again". I think it's fair to hold one phase of the team to that standard.

Next week if we win, it'll be roses again around here.
#Ride?

Throw Long Bannatyne

#173
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 18, 2026, 07:31:35 PMI guess we could and maybe should do a thread on the offense for putting together a mostly good game. The problem is that it wasn't enough to make up for the defense's very poor performance. If it was a few bad plays we can complain and move on but this thread is about a greater, more systemic issue that warrants criticisms and solutions.

It's actually the opposite of wanting to blow it all up and move on - it's "what should we do to make sure this doesn't happen again". I think it's fair to hold one phase of the team to that standard.

Next week if we win, it'll be roses again around here.

O'Shea said during the offseason he should have been more involved with his coordinators last season, that comment may have been spurred by post season conversations he had with players during exit interviews or maybe there were things he saw on both sides of the ball he didn't like, but hesitated to interfere with their game planning.

Wonder if he is keeping a tighter check this season?  He's probably out of his league when it comes to play calling or the schemes they're using, but he can definitely push them in any direction he wants them to go.

 

TrueBlue4

Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 03:25:50 PMSounds like.....

The Season's over.

Start planning for next season, and figure out new head coach.

You people are funny.

I don't post a lot but I too made comments about our D that I think need to change ie run D, middle LB switch etc.

I took markf's comment as a reminder that it's only 2 games this year so maybe we need to see what if any adjustments are made.

I know some will say that we have had these issues in past years as well but I think the team made some very good moves - Ceresna and Broxton as examples to address those areas many thought needed addressing.

Just my opinion.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 18, 2026, 05:22:35 PMYes we have more injuries than normal this early that we have to adjust our roster. New players and the usual short pre season means some cohesion work in process.

Normally that would be fine.  But the clearly top-4 teams hit the 2026 ground sprinting.  Whatever the reason -- bad luck, whatever -- we don't have the luxury of taking until Oct to solve our glaring holes.

Lucky for us the next game is EDM, which is probably the 2nd worst team, so maybe we can fake it until we make it.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 03:25:50 PMThe Season's over.

Normally every team but maybe 1 or 2 is floundering just like we are now.  That buys everyone time.  No such luxury in 2026.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 17, 2026, 11:29:27 PMI think it's debatable whether Jones is getting the job done or whether he falls into good bang for the buck. Ask your self why did he get moved to WIL? MLB is a more significant position on defence. Call it a sliding scale.  Typically the MLB is in control of the front 7 ( Bighill ).

I posit Jones to WILL because teams reamed our edges in the run game.  Jones will stop weak side runs.  (Same reason Griffin to SAM.)  I also posit Kyrie is the brains, Jones the muscle, thus Kyrie to MLB ("QB of D").

Whether this is actually working out so far is debatable.

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 17, 2026, 11:29:27 PMWe know that for every player added at top dollar then another player has to fill a position for less money. On a scale of 1 - 10 where would we rank Jones or Wilson?

In terms of Jones vs all CFL WILL/MLBs, I'd give him a 7.  Beverrette would be above him.  I don't value "take-yer-head-off" as much at MLB so I also rate him highly, 6-7 at MLB.  His 2025 numbers don't lie.  Jones is a steal at his SMS hit.  The only downside is he's not cerebral like Biggie.
Never go full Johnston!

markf

Quote from: TrueBlue4 on June 19, 2026, 12:18:23 AMI don't post a lot but I too made comments about our D that I think need to change ie run D, middle LB switch etc.

I took markf's comment as a reminder that it's only 2 games this year so maybe we need to see what if any adjustments are made.

I know some will say that we have had these issues in past years as well but I think the team made some very good moves - Ceresna and Broxton as examples to address those areas many thought needed addressing.

Just my opinion.


Thanks, that is what I meant.

Blueforlife

#179
Quote from: markf on June 18, 2026, 03:25:50 PMSounds like.....

The Season's over.

Start planning for next season, and figure out new head coach.

You people are funny.
I agree game 2 and the forum swung manic early and often here, patience my friends.  Deep breath.  Nice to have someone on here with a similar take as me.  All opinions are welcome on here.  The swings on here are like the stock market.  Buy low now! LOL