Hamilton @ Winnipeg

Started by Pigskin, June 06, 2026, 07:25:03 PM

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RebusRankin

They likely add another Dlineman with Dixon iffy. They may not add another linebacker with Woodby out and instead give more reps to J.Smith. I wonder if they add another DB given that we were giving defensive reps to Jake Kelly, who struggled imo.

Slingin Sammy

Quote from: RebusRankin on June 07, 2026, 02:33:24 PMThey likely add another Dlineman with Dixon iffy. They may not add another linebacker with Woodby out and instead give more reps to J.Smith. I wonder if they add another DB given that we were giving defensive reps to Jake Kelly, who struggled imo.

Ayers got a few reps on D during the game.   I'm guessing Woodbeys role can be filled by Ayers/Smith.  Getting Texada into the lineup to avoid Jake Kelly getting reps would be preferable IMHO.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Slingin Sammy on June 07, 2026, 02:58:58 PMAyers got a few reps on D during the game.   I'm guessing Woodbeys role can be filled by Ayers/Smith.  Getting Texada into the lineup to avoid Jake Kelly getting reps would be preferable IMHO.

Question is who comes off when Texada comes on?  I thought the 3 man front triggered the second safety but didn't notice that formation much in game #1, likely Kelly came on when Cam Lawson needed a rest but still doesn't explain who came off. 

I look forward to a schematic app that shows in real time player substitutions and the positions they assume, the technology obviously exists to tag and track jerseys or helmets.  Could be a pop up window in the corner of the screen, access when wanted. 

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 07, 2026, 05:01:35 PMQuestion is who comes off when Texada comes on?  I thought the 3 man front triggered the second safety but didn't notice that formation much in game #1, likely Kelly came on when Cam Lawson needed a rest but still doesn't explain who came off. 

I look forward to a schematic app that shows in real time player substitutions and the positions they assume, the technology obviously exists to tag and track jerseys or helmets.  Could be a pop up window in the corner of the screen, access when wanted. 

The expectation is that Woodbey comes off with his role absorbed by our other LB's. The other choice is to add another DL from the PR but Dixon was nicked so not sure if that means both DL on the PR come on, or the DB choice.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 07, 2026, 05:27:38 PMThe expectation is that Woodbey comes off with his role absorbed by our other LB's. The other choice is to add another DL from the PR but Dixon was nicked so not sure if that means both DL on the PR come on, or the DB choice.

How do you make room for the 2nd safety, 3 D-line or 2 LB's with Kramdi playing at the top of the box?

Pigskin

All speculation until the boys file out on the field on Monday or Tuesday.

Long range weather for Thursday. 16 rain for most of the day, should end around kickoff or shortly after. 
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markf

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A. B.K.

Anyone but Kelly.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 07, 2026, 05:55:44 PMHow do you make room for the 2nd safety, 3 D-line or 2 LB's with Kramdi playing at the top of the box?

Ayers gets more reps on defence. He was on the field often early in the game. It's his chance to step up do well. The discussion has said we may have to use the Canadians more as well including possibly Cadwallader.

JSK would have been that great replacement but luck didn't go his way.

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Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 07, 2026, 09:20:56 PMAyers gets more reps on defence. He was on the field often early in the game. It's his chance to step up do well. The discussion has said we may have to use the Canadians more as well including possibly Cadwallader.

JSK would have been that great replacement but luck didn't go his way.


Cadwallader a good option imo. 

Pigskin

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 07, 2026, 09:20:56 PMAyers gets more reps on defence. He was on the field often early in the game. It's his chance to step up do well. The discussion has said we may have to use the Canadians more as well including possibly Cadwallader.

JSK would have been that great replacement but luck didn't go his way.



Woodbey: 9 games, 34 DTs.

CAD:    86 games,  6 DTs.

Can't see CAD becoming his replacement. I think they will bring back one of the TC cuts.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Pigskin on June 07, 2026, 10:29:49 PMWoodbey: 9 games, 34 DTs.

CAD:    86 games,  6 DTs.

Can't see CAD becoming his replacement. I think they will bring back one of the TC cuts.
Partially agree
A good enough temp rotational replacement imo
I would also welcome back Clinton or whoever might bite on the offer


Tecno

Quote from: Pigskin on June 07, 2026, 10:29:49 PMWoodbey: 9 games, 34 DTs.

CAD:    86 games,  6 DTs.

Ya, but per capita. Do the stat per snap...

I'm pretty sure Cadwall has only seen a handful of real snaps outside of PS and garbage season games. Woodbey was getting regular rotation in some games last year.

In fact, if I had to guess, Cadwall might have the higher per snap ratio!

Still doesn't mean we should give him heavy rotation though. I'm his biggest fan but I'm not sure he can even be as good as Gauthier was on d.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Guys, we don't want Cadwallader anywhere near the every down defense unless you want to enjoy more first half in Calgary run defense.

If you're bound and determined to cheer on a Canadian in that role the most realistic option is Shay with a slightly reduced positional focus. Will is first and foremost a run stopping linebacker if you need to strip it down to its core function.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Tecno on June 08, 2026, 12:20:58 AMYa, but per capita. Do the stat per snap...

I'm pretty sure Cadwall has only seen a handful of real snaps outside of PS and garbage season games. Woodbey was getting regular rotation in some games last year.

In fact, if I had to guess, Cadwall might have the higher per snap ratio!

Still doesn't mean we should give him heavy rotation though. I'm his biggest fan but I'm not sure he can even be as good as Gauthier was on d.
Was thinking the exact same when the stats were posted, not a fair comparison

Gauthier likely a pretty good comparison who was very good against the run.  I like what I have seen from CAD but I don't have the details on what his strengths are.  Must be faster than Gauthier was but I can't remember him early career either.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 08, 2026, 12:58:25 AMGuys, we don't want Cadwallader anywhere near the every down defense unless you want to enjoy more first half in Calgary run defense.

If you're bound and determined to cheer on a Canadian in that role the most realistic option is Shay with a slightly reduced positional focus. Will is first and foremost a run stopping linebacker if you need to strip it down to its core function.

Not an every down player but I'm just saying he could see some duty in rotation. The roster is what it is as of today.

They may bring back a player previous cut and because it's so quick after being cut that it won't impact him being on the same page. After this game we've got a bye so that's when I expect longer term decisions to be made.

I'm not suggesting Stuart either but comments were made that he could play multiple positions and is athletic.

Generally the " fix " is most likely on the roster today for this game. That seems like Ayers as next man up,

I'll be happy if they find a better immediate solution.
One game at a time