Blue Bombers Add Receiver

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ya, but wasn't he used as a screen target and wide-out-near-LOS-at-the-rail "wide open" guy?  Easy to get 5-7 YAC on every one of those.  Especially when you're the guy the D ignored because they were dealing with the "real" threats.

A telling factor is he has only 1 TD in 2 full seasons, as the mostly ignored receiver he should have more TD's on stealth alone. He replaced Woli who made his mark more than anywhere finding open space in the endzone.

An obvious advantage Woli had was he was a sociable individual who developed a great working relationship with his QB, perhaps this is a skill Clercius lacks confidence in acquiring. I don't think I've ever seen him interviewed by anyone.

[Jesse]

A telling factor is he has only 1 TD in 2 full seasons, as the mostly ignored receiver he should have more TD's on stealth alone. He replaced Woli who made his mark more than anywhere finding open space in the endzone.

An obvious advantage Woli had was he was a sociable individual who developed a great working relationship with his QB, perhaps this is a skill Clercius lacks confidence in acquiring. I don't think I've ever seen him interviewed by anyone.

Woli had one or less TDs in 4 of his 7 seasons.

[Tecno]

Woli had one or less TDs in 4 of his 7 seasons.

Talk about misdirection by stats.  I would point out the reality except the cfl stats seem to be down again today (argh!!).

He had a string of many-TD seasons during his heyday.  His early and late seasons shouldn't really count against him.  He was far and above what our usual JFG/Clercius types produced.

[Tecno]

Clercius lacks confidence in acquiring. I don't think I've ever seen him interviewed by anyone.

I don't disagree with your other points, but to be fair to Clercius, it's the media that decides who they want to interview.  And normally the choice is "who is making an impact this/last game".  It just so happens the answer to that has never been "Clercius".

[Jesse]

Talk about misdirection by stats.  I would point out the reality except the cfl stats seem to be down again today (argh!!).

He had a string of many-TD seasons during his heyday.  His early and late seasons shouldn't really count against him.  He was far and above what our usual JFG/Clercius types produced.

Well Clercius only has early seasons. You need to compare Wol's heyday to Clercius' rookie and sophomore seasons?

But Woli played for 9 years. His first season he caught one pass. He lost 2020 to COVID, and never ended up doing anything with Hammy. So that's 6 seasons in his prime. He was held to 1 or less TDs in 3 of those seasons. In the remaining 3, he had seasons of 4, 5, and 6 TDs.

[Tecno]

Well Clercius only has early seasons. You need to compare Wol's heyday to Clercius' rookie and sophomore seasons?

Fair cop.

But Woli played for 9 years. His first season he caught one pass. He lost 2020 to COVID, and never ended up doing anything with Hammy. So that's 6 seasons in his prime. He was held to 1 or less TDs in 3 of those seasons. In the remaining 3, he had seasons of 4, 5, and 6 TDs.

You really need to compare seasons where they were the starter, though.  Clercius has started for 2 whole seasons?  I'm sure by Woli's 2nd full-starting season he was already into the 4,5,6 TD range.

Maybe a better stat would be TDs-per-start as that backs out injuries, covid, PR years, and ST-only years.

I dunno... add in the fact that I think many of us have the feeling Clercius doesn't "have it".  Woli "had it".  I'd love to be wrong.  But at the moment I think the heat is on big-body Clercius with the signing of huge-money big-body Nield, and the obvious snub he Clercius took late last season...

Of course, in the spirit of candor, Woli was really a fake-IMP, having nothing to do with Canada until they found his magic passport.  Then again, those are often the best types of NATs! 

[Blue In BC]

Fair cop.

You really need to compare seasons where they were the starter, though.  Clercius has started for 2 whole seasons?  I'm sure by Woli's 2nd full-starting season he was already into the 4,5,6 TD range.

Maybe a better stat would be TDs-per-start as that backs out injuries, covid, PR years, and ST-only years.

I dunno... add in the fact that I think many of us have the feeling Clercius doesn't "have it".  Woli "had it".  I'd love to be wrong.  But at the moment I think the heat is on big-body Clercius with the signing of huge-money big-body Nield, and the obvious snub he Clercius took late last season...

Of course, in the spirit of candor, Woli was really a fake-IMP, having nothing to do with Canada until they found his magic passport.  Then again, those are often the best types of NATs! 

Woli was a very good blocker and Clercius is not there yet. I can't say whether he's improving or not but those that go to practice might have a better idea of that.

[Jesse]

Fair cop.

You really need to compare seasons where they were the starter, though.  Clercius has started for 2 whole seasons?  I'm sure by Woli's 2nd full-starting season he was already into the 4,5,6 TD range.

Maybe a better stat would be TDs-per-start as that backs out injuries, covid, PR years, and ST-only years.

I dunno... add in the fact that I think many of us have the feeling Clercius doesn't "have it".  Woli "had it".  I'd love to be wrong.  But at the moment I think the heat is on big-body Clercius with the signing of huge-money big-body Nield, and the obvious snub he Clercius took late last season...

Of course, in the spirit of candor, Woli was really a fake-IMP, having nothing to do with Canada until they found his magic passport.  Then again, those are often the best types of NATs! 

Woli was a starter in his 2nd year and his career was a mixed bag when it came to TDs. He had a couple with 4+ then a couple with only 1.

Woli was great, but I just don't think he was as consistent a TD scorer as you're remembering, and TDs was the metric with which you were judging Clercius. Woli would have years where he was made part of the endzone plan and years where he wasn't. He was also here for Zach's peak of 35+ TDs a year while Clercius has been here for Zach's >20 TD seasons. We can argue chicken and egg of that correlation, lol.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Woli was a starter in his 2nd year and his career was a mixed bag when it came to TDs. He had a couple with 4+ then a couple with only 1.

Woli was great, but I just don't think he was as consistent a TD scorer as you're remembering, and TDs was the metric with which you were judging Clercius. Woli would have years where he was made part of the endzone plan and years where he wasn't. He was also here for Zach's peak of 35+ TDs a year while Clercius has been here for Zach's >20 TD seasons. We can argue chicken and egg of that correlation, lol.

Now that's an interesting stat, combined with Zach's higher interception rate the last 3 seasons they need much better performance if they expect to be competitive this season.  That said, TD count is often skewed by how effective the SY team is, Brady would have double the TD count playing on some other teams.

[Pete]

Im still high on clercius, Comparison to Woli isn't cut and dry for example how many tds did he get from his buddy Strev whose familiarity made  him look for Woli? Also Zac had developed a high degree of trust in Woli as an out
 Playing under Hogan has slso been mentioned as a factor.
 It wouldn't surprise me to see him flourish if we end up losing him to another team.
 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Im still high on clercius, Comparison to Woli isn't cut and dry for example how many tds did he get from his buddy Strev whose familiarity made  him look for Woli? Also Zac had developed a high degree of trust in Woli as an out
 Playing under Hogan has slso been mentioned as a factor.
 It wouldn't surprise me to see him flourish if we end up losing him to another team.
 

Should be interesting, still not convinced they will start 3 Natl. receivers but Clercius needs to have his break out season and he better unveil it early on or he will be rendered a back bencher by mid-season.

[Blue In BC]

If we draft a receiver, I hope he's able to participate on ST's at the very least. Otherwise it will be difficult to make the AR.

In a perfect world a receiver that could see some duty as a back up returner would be nice. The usual alternative is a starter and that becomes a dual duty injury risk.

Whether we do or don't start 3 Canadians is already a fight for a starter and a back up on the AR.