Cfl draft

Started by Pete, March 14, 2026, 02:52:55 AM

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Blue In BC

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 15, 2026, 10:39:33 PMThe CFL draft is a total guess but this one feels more plausible than some of the others, at least to me.

Hard to say but is drafting a FB with our 2nd pick a good idea? He's essentially a role / ST player.  We may need some role players but those can be drafted in later rounds unless this one is something special.
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Pete

I could see drafting him with our late 2nd round pick but we have greater needs with the 13th overall pick including db and wr assuming we take ol first

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on April 16, 2026, 06:02:52 PMI could see drafting him with our late 2nd round pick but we have greater needs with the 13th overall pick including db and wr assuming we take ol first

I have the same thought as in 2025. The 2nd pick in the 2nd round ( our 3rd overall ) is not a throw away. My expectation would be a player to fight for a spot on the AR with potential to develop into a starter.

He might get some consideration in the 3rd or 4th round. But I'm against using a top 3 pick to get him. I know little about him and maybe he has more upside than I perceive. If he's going to be FB / ST guy I'm less interested.
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markf

Quote from: Waffler on April 08, 2026, 12:30:22 AMI don't get the grousing about Elgersma. He was just drafted last year, why give up? Sometimes guys take years to come back. Tyrell Ford was gone a year, Dakoda Shepley was gone 5 years just for examples. He's a 24 year old QB who will be here eventually and everyone will be happy.

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Blue In BC

Quote from: markf on April 18, 2026, 08:10:02 PMVindicated!

About what? He was doing a Henoc Muamba tour of the NFL and then the CFL. Seemed totally disinterested in the CFL.

We'll see how he works out and I wish him success whether he was an import or a Canadian. Being a Canadian is a bonus in that sense. In theory the # 2 and # 3 QB's are open and he could end up with early success.

It's also possible he can't make the AR if Wilson wins one of those spots.

So he'll get very few game reps if at all and his practice reps will be very limited.

That's not the worst outcome, but will he accept a PR spot? If we have to 1 game IR him to retain him, that may be a wasted effort. It's not like we'd normally retain an import QB on the 1 game IR unless actually injured.

Like any rookie QB it's all TBD. He has an advantage of being familiar with the Canadian game and rules.

Is it enough early on?  It's great if he ends up as a good QB even if it's in 2027.

Part of the risk / analysis will it be worth having drafted in the 2nd round?

That's the ultimate question. Fingers are crossed with hit Bomber gold with our choice.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 18, 2026, 10:44:09 PMAbout what? He was doing a Henoc Muamba tour of the NFL and then the CFL. Seemed totally disinterested in the CFL.

We'll see how he works out and I wish him success whether he was an import or a Canadian. Being a Canadian is a bonus in that sense. In theory the # 2 and # 3 QB's are open and he could end up with early success.

It's also possible he can't make the AR if Wilson wins one of those spots.

So he'll get very few game reps if at all and his practice reps will be very limited.

That's not the worst outcome, but will he accept a PR spot? If we have to 1 game IR him to retain him, that may be a wasted effort. It's not like we'd normally retain an import QB on the 1 game IR unless actually injured.

Like any rookie QB it's all TBD. He has an advantage of being familiar with the Canadian game and rules.

Is it enough early on?  It's great if he ends up as a good QB even if it's in 2027.

Part of the risk / analysis will it be worth having drafted in the 2nd round?

That's the ultimate question. Fingers are crossed with hit Bomber gold with our choice.

If he hits our PR, you can bet he will get a deal elsewhere.  Just like we need a NAT backup for Oliveira, BC could use one for Rourke, and if SSK or HAM end up with a NAT QB, there too.

On the other hand, if he can't make our AR, other teams might take a pass.

I still think that unless Wilson has a stellar camp, it is Collaros, Perkins, Elgersma.  With Thorne on the PR. 
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Blue In BC

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Quote from: theaardvark on April 18, 2026, 11:43:24 PMIf he hits our PR, you can bet he will get a deal elsewhere.  Just like we need a NAT backup for Oliveira, BC could use one for Rourke, and if SSK or HAM end up with a NAT QB, there too.

On the other hand, if he can't make our AR, other teams might take a pass.

I still think that unless Wilson has a stellar camp, it is Collaros, Perkins, Elgersma.  With Thorne on the PR. 

Every team has a # 4 to consider  during TC and may or may not retain him anywhere on their roster. When an injury happens they'll have other QB's on their speed dial.

PR spots are limited which means making a spot for any QB a challenge. Keeping him on the 1 game IR is not the best way to spend SMS.

Suggesting that he might be scooped if we put him on the PR is a maybe at several levels. Moving from one team to another means they have to activate him to the AR doesn't it? To prevent it, means the Bombers would have to do that. It's not something you see often.

They you risk losing the player that gets bumped possibly. QB's get released after TC all the time. Not many get signed elsewhere.

The simple solution is for him to be better than 2 of our group and win a spot on the AR.

We're going to need reports from TC to determine what his chances might be.
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Tecno

I don't follow Usports, nor do I pay attention to other teams' #3's... if you do, tell me, does Elgersma look worse, the same, or better than Rourke at this point in his career?

I'm trying to project forward to gauge how valuable he'll be 2-4 years down the line.  I'd be fairly happy with Rourke-level, but I'd be happier with a bit better.  I don't think Rourke wins a cup unless he has a clearly elite team around him, but I still put him as a top-4 QB.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on April 19, 2026, 02:30:48 AMI don't follow Usports, nor do I pay attention to other teams' #3's... if you do, tell me, does Elgersma look worse, the same, or better than Rourke at this point in his career?

I'm trying to project forward to gauge how valuable he'll be 2-4 years down the line.  I'd be fairly happy with Rourke-level, but I'd be happier with a bit better.  I don't think Rourke wins a cup unless he has a clearly elite team around him, but I still put him as a top-4 QB.


That's a big ask.lol

We all hope he turns out to be a top CFL QB. OTOH, we say that about every rookie QB.  Being a Canadian is just a bonus and might hold a certain ratio advantage in how the roster is built.

Odds are long but he has an opportunity against an unproven group of other candidates. Your could say he's starting the race even. Wilson has some experience but not that large an advantage.
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Blue In BC

9 days to the draft. We'll see which players get drafted or signed as UDFA by the NFL. That will change the rankings on our draft.

I suppose teams already have an idea of which players won't be available or for how long.

Each of the mock drafts has looked completely different.

I can still imagine 2-3 players making the 2026 AR and making a reasonable impact. Who they might replace is a wait and see.

Our Canadian depth is pretty good and we should see those drafted last year taking a step forward.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Blue In BC on April 19, 2026, 02:20:56 AMEvery team has a # 4 to consider  during TC and may or may not retain him anywhere on their roster. When an injury happens they'll have other QB's on their speed dial.

PR spots are limited which means making a spot for any QB a challenge. Keeping him on the 1 game IR is not the best way to spend SMS.

Suggesting that he might be scooped if we put him on the PR is a maybe at several levels. Moving from one team to another means they have to activate him to the AR doesn't it? To prevent it, means the Bombers would have to do that. It's not something you see often.

They you risk losing the player that gets bumped possibly. QB's get released after TC all the time. Not many get signed elsewhere.

The simple solution is for him to be better than 2 of our group and win a spot on the AR.

We're going to need reports from TC to determine what his chances might be.

I think it would be pretty unusual for the Bombers to place a high draft pick on the PR, they want to give the player every advantage to succeed as they are critical to the future success of the CFL brand.  Plus they don't want to make their recruitment process look dumb by picking the wrong player, so ego plays into it.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 19, 2026, 04:15:20 PMI think it would be pretty unusual for the Bombers to ever place a high draft pick on the PR, they want to give the player every advantage to succeed as they are critical to the future success of the CFL brand.  Plus they don't want to make their recruitment process look dumb by picking the wrong player, so ego plays into it.

A high draft choice is not usually a QB and can play ST's or be emergency in game depth. A QB is a bit of an exception if he doesn't make the AR, what do you do with him?

Placing him on the 1 game IR comes at an SMS disadvantage. If he's the # 4 QB he's not going to get many reps in practice so that's another issue. Even in pre season how many reps is he going to get unless he's expected to make the AR?

I'm hoping he can be the SY QB at the very least. Keeping 4 QB's after TC is not the usual plan?
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Blue In BC on April 19, 2026, 04:22:19 PMA high draft choice is not usually a QB and can play ST's or be emergency in game depth. A QB is a bit of an exception if he doesn't make the AR, what do you do with him?

Placing him on the 1 game IR comes at an SMS disadvantage. If he's the # 4 QB he's not going to get many reps in practice so that's another issue. Even in pre season how many reps is he going to get unless he's expected to make the AR?

I'm hoping he can be the SY QB at the very least. Keeping 4 QB's after TC is not the usual plan?

In the case of Elgersma guaranteed he will be the SY QB or the 3rd QB holding the clipboard.  The more he plays the better, but that depends largely on Zach's health, I heard somewhere that he was physically knocked out of 4 games last season, which seems worrisome.

Pigskin

NFL draft starts on April 23rd. It will be interesting to see were some of the top Canadians are drafted. I think Bombers should still be looking at OL and DL first. However there are a couple of good WR and DBs that could be at #13 or #20. 
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theaardvark

We could easily keep Zach plus 3 more QB's on the roster, because other than Wilson, the rest are on rookie deals.

Whether QB4 is on the PR or AR, same cap hit pretty much.  Especially with Zach's pay cut.

Unless Wilson has made some big progress in the offseason.
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