OK, has Walters already won FA?

[theaardvark]

With all the FA moves, we forget about probably the most important off season move, Tommy Condell.  Now, was that MOS, was that Wade, or was it Walters?  Or some combination?

[blue_gold_84]

Yes I can drool over that but I really think Dequoy stays in Montreal or out east. His SMS hit would be high.

This. I can't see Dequoy being in the cards.

[Blue In BC]

This. I can't see Dequoy being in the cards.

I don't either but it's an interesting thought for a multitude of reasons.

Regarding depth: with those that have left or not re-signed yet, we've lost over 500 man games on our roster. So yes we'll have many rookies on our PR and a few starting possibly. However we could still add some lower cost depth.

Kolankowski alone was 95 games.

If our 2025 roster was 45 AR, 13 PR and 10 IR = 68 more or less.  I count 22 gone or going at the moment so that's 1/3 of all our rosters. That's enormous transition. Not all of them will be pure rookies.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Sure...but during a game against starters is something different entirely.

Not saying he couldn't, just that we don't know if it's better or not.

Allen looked decent at Safety but not outstanding, he has great mobility but does not add much of a physical presence, wouldn't be surprised to see Younger move him elsewhere.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

At best that's a maybe but I doubt it comes to that. While it gives you depth it's adding to the workload.

Agree other than as an in game replacement Vaval unlikely to play CB again, he's made his mark as a returner and has become an offensive weapon.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Allen looked decent at Safety but not outstanding, he has great mobility but does not add much of a physical presence, wouldn't be surprised to see Younger move him elsewhere.

Allen would have looked better at safety if they would have treated training camp as a real open competition last year.

He popped in camp. He made plays in the pre-season but instead we threw him on the bench and went with familiarity for half the season even though the players we played there had never really done it before at the position.

Largely a disaster and those decisions were a big part of why we regressed so much last year. Had he started from day one he would have had the early season to figure things out. You learn by doing moreso than learn by sitting on the practice roster.

I don't care who starts at safety this year except that it should be the most talented player on the roster at that spot that we have. That was not how things were done last year at several positions and the results were reflective.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Younger used the 3 man DL because we didn't have enough talent to run and rotate players in the  4 front. So that may change to some degree.  And we'd have to replace him with another rookie at safety. So not the best idea unless they are confidant that he can play CB.

I don't buy that theory for a second, Younger has been integrating the 3 front ever since he moved up to DC, his playbook is built around it, personnel are selected to fit into it, not the other way around.

Replacing Vaughters with Ceresna isn't a straight swap, Ceresna is a DT, if anything he's replacing Woods in the 3 DT rotation.  Back in the good old days when they were winning GC they used 4 DT's in rotation as Hanson was sort of a hybrid. Direct replacement for Vaughters seems to be Jaworski, Jenkins or a newcomer, Munier-Bailey is a light weight pass rusher at 235 lbs that will probably not play when there is any threat of a run, could be he takes Ayers DE role from last season.

[Jesse]

I don't buy that theory for a second, Younger has been integrating the 3 front ever since he moved up to DC, his playbook is built around it, personnel are selected to fit into it, not the other way around.

Replacing Vaughters with Ceresna isn't a straight swap, Ceresna is a DT, if anything he's replacing Woods in the 3 DT rotation.  Back in the good old days when they were winning GC they used 4 DT's in rotation as Hanson was sort of a hybrid. Direct replacement for Vaughters seems to be Jaworski, Jenkins or a newcomer, Munier-Bailey is a light weight pass rusher at 235 lbs that will probably not play when there is any threat of a run, could be he takes Ayers DE role from last season.

Yes, in our regular ol' 4 man alignment, it'll be Willie-Lawson-Ceresna-TBD. But just like we've placed Willie in the middle, we're probably going to throw Ceresna at the end in a 3 man alignment.

Jaws or Jenkins may be the replacement DE, but it doesn't mean they'll play every snap. They'll be listed as a starter on the depth chart, but might play less snaps than Griffin, who'll be listed as a back-up.

[Blue In BC]

I don't buy that theory for a second, Younger has been integrating the 3 front ever since he moved up to DC, his playbook is built around it, personnel are selected to fit into it, not the other way around.

Replacing Vaughters with Ceresna isn't a straight swap, Ceresna is a DT, if anything he's replacing Woods in the 3 DT rotation.  Back in the good old days when they were winning GC they used 4 DT's in rotation as Hanson was sort of a hybrid. Direct replacement for Vaughters seems to be Jaworski, Jenkins or a newcomer, Munier-Bailey is a light weight pass rusher at 235 lbs that will probably not play when there is any threat of a run, could be he takes Ayers DE role from last season.

Our front 4 were not good enough and now 3 of them are gone. We didn't have a DL as a DI, we had more LB's.

3 man front may have been part of Younger's strategy. As I said he didn't have the horses the last 2 seasons to do otherwise.

Also noting that strategy gave QB's too long to throw and that was our demise. If he isn't flexible enough to adjust his strategy then he'll be out of work in 2027. Lions, Stamps and Riders all improved in 2025 while we stumbled into a crossover.

Currently the 2 other players on the roster that aren't rookies are Munier-Bailey and Jaworksi. Each have only played in1 game and recorded 1 DT.

Now either may turn out to be great players or we may see a rookie win that spot. What I don't see is a move to adding front 4 depth as a DI. That could change but for the moment the front 4 is still an issue. It's fair to believe that Ceresna and Lawson will be upgrades but depth not so much.

We no longer have Woods or Adams etc.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Our front 4 were not good enough and now 3 of them are gone. We didn't have a DL as a DI, we had more LB's.

3 man front may have been part of Younger's strategy. As I said he didn't have the horses the last 2 seasons to do otherwise.

Also noting that strategy gave QB's too long to throw and that was our demise. If he isn't flexible enough to adjust his strategy then he'll be out of work in 2027. Lions, Stamps and Riders all improved in 2025 while we stumbled into a crossover.

Currently the 2 other players on the roster that aren't rookies are Munier-Bailey and Jaworksi. Each have only played in1 game and recorded 1 DT.

Now either may turn out to be great players or we may see a rookie win that spot. What I don't see is a move to adding front 4 depth as a DI. That could change but for the moment the front 4 is still an issue. It's fair to believe that Ceresna and Lawson will be upgrades but depth not so much.

We no longer have Woods or Adams etc.

You forgot Kydran Jenkins, who looked to be the best pass rusher of the 3.

[Blue In BC]

You forgot Kydran Jenkins, who looked to be the best pass rusher of the 3.

I didn't forget him but he also only played 1 game that was virtually a pre season contest. Each team was playing a bunch of PR players. That was the game against the Als when Alexander didn't play and he had 1 DT.

Sure he might be the best of the lot but sample size is next to zero.

[GOLDMEMBER]

This. I can't see Dequoy being in the cards.

He is retiring from ball.

[GOLDMEMBER]

You forgot Kydran Jenkins, who looked to be the best pass rusher of the 3.

He really impressed me.