Tre Ford

Started by Blue In BC, January 27, 2026, 05:27:29 PM

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Blue In BC

Ok. His contact has a big bonus due on Feb 1. Anyone want to guess how this shakes out? Does he manage a re-negotiation, get released or traded? Even without the early bonus, the Elks my not want to pay the contract for a # 2 QB.

Maybe a package deal with his brother out East?  lol
One game at a time.

Tecno

I'm not sure anyone wants him.  How does he fit in??

He may go with very little interest and become a couch sitter.  I would not be against offering him a super lowball deal (like Strev money).  It may come down to that or the couch.

If I were him, I'd choose the couch, because QB injuries always start to stack up by mid-season.  And a desperate team is a team that will open the wallet.
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dd

Not sure why Edmonton wou1d want to pay the bonus for a p1ayer not capab1e of p1aying the game. hes a1ways been over hyped and over rated, I think he needs to re-negotiate his contract or be re1eased

Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on January 27, 2026, 05:48:48 PMI'm not sure anyone wants him.  How does he fit in??

He may go with very little interest and become a couch sitter.  I would not be against offering him a super lowball deal (like Strev money).  It may come down to that or the couch.

If I were him, I'd choose the couch, because QB injuries always start to stack up by mid-season.  And a desperate team is a team that will open the wallet.

Because of his athleticism. How many games has he actually started and he was also playing on a bad team? SMS is an issue.

I don't know if T. Wilson has a future but he's complete 12 passes. T. Ford has completed 359.
One game at a time.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 05:27:29 PMOk. His contact has a big bonus due on Feb 1. Anyone want to guess how this shakes out? Does he manage a re-negotiation, get released or traded? Even without the early bonus, the Elks my not want to pay the contract for a # 2 QB.

Maybe a package deal with his brother out East?  lol

I would really like to see this happen.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 05:27:29 PMOk. His contact has a big bonus due on Feb 1. Anyone want to guess how this shakes out? Does he manage a re-negotiation, get released or traded? Even without the early bonus, the Elks my not want to pay the contract for a # 2 QB.

Maybe a package deal with his brother out East?  lol

We know he wants to be a QB, but does he Sinopoli sooner than later? 

What is his alternate position?  Is he a DB like his twin brother?  Can he do returns?  Is he a scatback WR? 

Can he get a bigger paycheck as a rostered NAT starter than a backup QB?
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Jesse

They don't have as much invested in their starting QB, maybe they can financially just keep him around to be the back-up.
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Blue In BC

#7
Quote from: theaardvark on January 27, 2026, 06:44:39 PMWe know he wants to be a QB, but does he Sinopoli sooner than later? 

What is his alternate position?  Is he a DB like his twin brother?  Can he do returns?  Is he a scatback WR? 

Can he get a bigger paycheck as a rostered NAT starter than a backup QB?

That would be a stretch to think he might be able to switch positions and earn more than the $352K he was getting as a QB.

The Elks can probably afford him but the signing bonus seemed to be a problem. OTOH, why would they keep him is more of the question. That's a lot to pay for a # 2 QB even if you think he has a future. I'd think that would be the 2nd highest salary on their roster.

He's in a tough situation losing the starting role and a probable demand to reduce his salary.

One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 05:27:29 PMOk. His contact has a big bonus due on Feb 1. Anyone want to guess how this shakes out? Does he manage a re-negotiation, get released or traded? Even without the early bonus, the Elks my not want to pay the contract for a # 2 QB.

Maybe a package deal with his brother out East?  lol

The hour is growing late, I expect the Elks are trying to re-negotiate his contract before bonus day comes, which means they probably want to keep him.  Fajardo is pretty close to ending his career, he contemplated retirement before re-signing the one year deal below.

"includes a $190,000 signing bonus to ink his one-year extension with the Elks. He has a $135,080 base salary, $35,000 in marketing money, a $20,000 travel allowance, and $15,420 in housing to equal $395,500 in hard money."

theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 07:09:24 PMThat would be a stretch to think he might be able to switch positions and earn more than the $352K he was getting as a QB.

The Elks can probably afford him but the signing bonus seemed to be a problem. OTOH, why would they keep him is more of the question. That's a lot to pay for a # 2 QB even if you think he has a future. I'd think that would be the 2nd highest salary on their roster.

He's in a tough situation losing the starting role and a probable demand to reduce his salary.

Not saying he can beat his Current deal as a position player, but if he gets cut, can he get more as a Nat position player than as a backup QB?  That was my question. 

Sinopoli not only continued to play after his QB dreams ended, but he made more as a Rec than as a backup QB.  And in today's market would have made even more.
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TBURGESS

Most teams would take Ford at a backup QB price. No team is going to pay him his current contract.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 27, 2026, 07:13:59 PMThe hour is growing late, I expect the Elks are trying to re-negotiate his contract before bonus day comes, which means they probably want to keep him.  Fajardo is pretty close to ending his career, he contemplated retirement before re-signing the one year deal below.

"includes a $190,000 signing bonus to ink his one-year extension with the Elks. He has a $135,080 base salary, $35,000 in marketing money, a $20,000 travel allowance, and $15,420 in housing to equal $395,500 in hard money."

As I suggested aside from the SMS do they have a better option for a # 2 QB? Powell, T. Adams, D. Crum? I can't imagine any of those 3 to get more than $200K so there is a substantial delta on whether to keep him if he doesn't take a drop.

As the post above me said, most teams would take him as a # 2 QB at a #2 QB price.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on January 27, 2026, 07:17:10 PMNot saying he can beat his Current deal as a position player, but if he gets cut, can he get more as a Nat position player than as a backup QB?  That was my question. 

Sinopoli not only continued to play after his QB dreams ended, but he made more as a Rec than as a backup QB.  And in today's market would have made even more.

The difference being is that Ford is being paid as a starting QB. Not at the top level but much more than a backup QB.
One game at a time.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 07:20:56 PMThe difference being is that Ford is being paid as a starting QB. Not at the top level but much more than a backup QB.

Yes, he is NOW.  But we all know, that time is over, and he's not getting another starting QB contract, and not likely to keep his current one.

His brother made $230k in hard money the first year of a 2 year deal.  No idea what bonuses were last year, or what they and salary will be in year 2, but usually its more.  Might even have a guarantee, usually something that is part of a 2 year deal.

That more than a QB2 usually makes, unless they get to start and get sames started bonuses.
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blue_or_die

I was a huge fan of Tre but after watching him last year I think that experiment is over.

If he became available, I would pass.
#Ride?

Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_or_die on January 27, 2026, 07:31:02 PMI was a huge fan of Tre but after watching him last year I think that experiment is over.

If he became available, I would pass.

Probably but as I said T. Wilson has completed 12 passes in 2 seasons. He may not even make the roster. I don't know if we make a run at Powell as an example, but our # 2 QB situation doesn't look good.
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blue_or_die

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 07:36:36 PMProbably but as I said T. Wilson has completed 12 passes in 2 seasons. He may not even make the roster. I don't know if we make a run at Powell as an example, but our # 2 QB situation doesn't look good.

Yeah, I'm not advocating we stand pat at Wilson either. I'm hoping we shore up a good QB stable behind Collaros. Ideally it would be an experienced, know-what-you're-getting vet and a prospect who is exciting, if only someone we could be excited about in the future.
#Ride?

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#17
Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 07:36:36 PMProbably but as I said T. Wilson has completed 12 passes in 2 seasons. He may not even make the roster. I don't know if we make a run at Powell as an example, but our # 2 QB situation doesn't look good.

Powell will only be availble once, can't afford not to go after him with so many QB's ageing out at the same time.  If Sask. signs him instead of the Bombers I'm switching colours!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 27, 2026, 07:41:24 PMPowell will only be availble once, can't afford not to go after him with so many QB's ageing out at the same time.  If Sask. signs him instead of the Bombers I'm switching colours!

I'm with you.  Powell is the next "Dru Brown" up'n'comer who gets a chance to start & be a franchise guy.  The question is, which team.  The neat part is, he's not really "proven" yet so anyone wanting him can still get him for #2 money and try to lock him into 2 or 3 years.
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Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 27, 2026, 07:36:36 PMI don't know if we make a run at Powell as an example, but our # 2 QB situation doesn't look good.

With huge swathes of SMS spent on retention, I think we have to go cheap in the QB room once again to stay within budget.  I can't even recall the last time we had a #2 making decent money (like Maier in SSK or Cody was in EDM before he became starter).

Our QB room mantra seems to be "blow it all on #1 and skimp on everyone else".  While bringing an heir to Zach in now (Powell) makes perfect sense, I think we stay budget and bring in the Zach replacement at the exact moment Zach leaves.
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Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on January 27, 2026, 06:44:39 PMWe know he wants to be a QB, but does he Sinopoli sooner than later? 

Tre may have crap hands.  Maybe even worse hands than his DB brother.  That could be why a switch to WR/scatback (or even DB) is impossible.

Didn't C.Jones try to turn that Loxley QB kid into a QB/WR in EDM?  That dude was like a (weaker) mirror image of Tre: tiny, athletic, fast, ostensibly a QB.

It certainly would be handy if Tre could be a REC option and you lateral to him so he has the option of pass or run.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on January 27, 2026, 11:10:26 PMWith huge swathes of SMS spent on retention, I think we have to go cheap in the QB room once again to stay within budget.  I can't even recall the last time we had a #2 making decent money (like Maier in SSK or Cody was in EDM before he became starter).

Our QB room mantra seems to be "blow it all on #1 and skimp on everyone else".  While bringing an heir to Zach in now (Powell) makes perfect sense, I think we stay budget and bring in the Zach replacement at the exact moment Zach leaves.


This could be the year Zach finally gets el kabonged and ends up on the 6 game, if that happens slim chance they make the playoffs.  As is CFL stats say he only played in 13 regular season games last year, which seems low, I can remember 2-3 games he got knocked out of mid-game. 

To secure Powell, Zach would have to make a generous sacrifice of salary and accept he can't play forever.  What I remember of Powell from 2-3 years ago is that he played like a Zach protege, not a natural runner but made good use of his legs when forced to run.

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 27, 2026, 11:40:31 PMThis could be the year Zach finally gets el kabonged and ends up on the 6 game, if that happens slim chance they make the playoffs

To secure Powell, Zach would have to make a generous sacrifice of salary and accept he can't play forever.

That's the chance we take.  Build a top OL to minimize that risk.

And why would Zach take a big pay hit to "train his replacement" so he can be for sure supplanted in FA27?  Literally nothing in it for him.  It would be nice if he would, but he won't.
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Quote from: Tecno on January 27, 2026, 11:55:31 PMThat's the chance we take.  Build a top OL to minimize that risk.

And why would Zach take a big pay hit to "train his replacement" so he can be for sure supplanted in FA27?  Literally nothing in it for him.  It would be nice if he would, but he won't.


Zach has sucked the team dry and under performed the last few years, time to give something back.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 12:40:53 AMZach has sucked the team dry and under performed the last few years, time to give something back.
Not true imo.  Zach has been one of the primary reasons we have preformed well over the last few years.  Tough year last year.  Overstated on the negative but I get it, it's your posting style about him.  Looking for a bounced back if we can rebuild the OL.

BLUEBOMBER

I think with the right coaching, Tre Ford is a capable QB. Certainly has more upside than Streveler.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on January 28, 2026, 03:02:48 AMI think with the right coaching, Tre Ford is a capable QB. Certainly has more upside than Streveler.

He reads a defense about as good as Streveler if we're comparing.

Blueforlife

Ford has many talents and skills.  Hasn't been able to put it together.  I think he still might but likely a decent #2 that might turn into a 3 if he can't improve.  I have always liked him.  Agree can't read a D.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on January 28, 2026, 03:16:03 AMFord has many talents and skills.  Hasn't been able to put it together.  I think he still might but likely a decent #2 that might turn into a 3 if he can't improve.  I have always liked him.  Agree can't read a D.

#2 is a backup to go in if #1 gets injured, and eventually develop into the new #1.

#3 is SY and "in a pinch" can start.

Ford *might* be able to do the #2 role, although he's been pretty shite at it so far.

He is definitely not a #3, "will turn into #3" is not an option, really...
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Blueforlife

Quote from: theaardvark on January 28, 2026, 02:58:40 PM#2 is a backup to go in if #1 gets injured, and eventually develop into the new #1.

#3 is SY and "in a pinch" can start.

Ford *might* be able to do the #2 role, although he's been pretty shite at it so far.

He is definitely not a #3, "will turn into #3" is not an option, really...
I think he can be a decent #2 if can learn to read and D and improve his passing

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blueforlife on January 28, 2026, 02:40:13 AMNot true imo.  Zach has been one of the primary reasons we have preformed well over the last few years.  Tough year last year.  Overstated on the negative but I get it, it's your posting style about him.  Looking for a bounced back if we can rebuild the OL.

I'm willing to fully forgive Zach if he performs up to expectations this season and leads the team to victories over the CFL's top teams, but up to this point the finger has been pointed everywhere but at him.

Pretty simple, his play no longer warrants a $600k salary and he's been unwilling to make concessions up to this point, which adversely affects the teams ability to aquire or afford a competent backup. An opportunity to aquire Powell looks like a reasonable possibility, instead that money will stay in Zach's pocket so that he doesn't have to take a hit for his poor play or worry about a competitior waiting in the wings. Zach is smart, can't blame him for protecting his own interests but the corner the team has been led into is regrettable. 


blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 04:46:59 PMI'm willing to fully forgive Zach if he performs up to expectations this season and leads the team to victories over the CFL's top teams, but up to this point the finger has been pointed everywhere but at him.

That's not true. He's been a consistent target of criticism over the last couple of seasons, but last season in particular. He was below .500 as a starter last season and while that's obviously now just on him, he needs to be better this season.

Hopefully, with a capable OC now slated to run the offense, the unit as a whole will be better - Collaros included.
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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 04:46:59 PMI'm willing to fully forgive Zach if he performs up to expectations this season and leads the team to victories over the CFL's top teams, but up to this point the finger has been pointed everywhere but at him.

Pretty simple, his play no longer warrants a $600k salary and he's been unwilling to make concessions up to this point, which adversely affects the teams ability to aquire or afford a competent backup. An opportunity to aquire Powell looks like a reasonable possibility, instead that money will stay in Zach's pocket so that he doesn't have to take a hit for his poor play or worry about a competitior waiting in the wings. Zach is smart, can't blame him for protecting his own interests but the corner the team has been led into is regrettable. 



You're making it seem like Zach is holding the team over a barrel. The Bombers are the ones who offered him the contract, re-signed him, and have no desire to re-negotiate with him.
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Blueforlife

Zach has taken a lot of heat and he isn't our biggest worry imo
The OL is for me

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 28, 2026, 05:16:12 PMThat's not true. He's been a consistent target of criticism over the last couple of seasons, but last season in particular. He was below .500 as a starter last season and while that's obviously now just on him, he needs to be better this season.

Hopefully, with a capable OC now slated to run the offense, the unit as a whole will be better - Collaros included.

Not from the team or any media I've seen, little notice has been given to his decline in play.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 05:43:05 PMNot from the team or any media I've seen, little notice has been given to his decline in play.

Does that really happen?

Teams don't typically slag their own players, much less prominent types like QBs. The sports media's job, be it in-house or otherwise, is to ask questions and then offer written analysis based on the response(s).

It seemed like an outlier at the time, but I do remember Stegall suggesting Collaros should retire after last season's Banjo Bowl, which then led to a rebuttal from O'Shea and a pretty heated debate on the subject.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 28, 2026, 06:31:27 PMDoes that really happen?

Teams don't typically slag their own players, much less prominent types like QBs. The sports media's job, be it in-house or otherwise, is to ask questions and then offer written analysis based on the response(s).

It seemed like an outlier at the time, but I do remember Stegall suggesting Collaros should retire after last season's Banjo Bowl, which then led to a rebuttal from O'Shea and a pretty heated debate on the subject.

Dinwiddie does it when neccessary, Jason Maas is also pretty honest evaluating performances as is Ed Hervey, criticism is sometimes earned, it shouldn't be all sunshine and roses.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 06:35:34 PMDinwiddie does it when neccessary, Jason Maas is also pretty honest evaluating performances as is Ed Hervey, criticism is sometimes earned, it shouldn't be all sunshine and roses.

Okay, cool. Got any links to share?
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 28, 2026, 07:18:38 PMOkay, cool. Got any links to share?

Nothing specific, you'd have to sift through some of their interviews to find the good stuff, but Dinwiddie is the most prolific.  Hervey is the most honest, he'll answer most questions asked truthfully, he doesn't sugarcoat his answers.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 28, 2026, 09:20:13 PMNothing specific, you'd have to sift through some of their interviews to find the good stuff, but Dinwiddie is the most prolific.  Hervey is the most honest, he'll answer most questions asked truthfully, he doesn't sugarcoat his answers.
Ya, Dinwiddie b1ew severa1 gaskets pub1ica11y 1ast year, and is coaching in ottawa this year, coincidence?? You can't berate your p1ayers in the media or pub1ica11y, thats best done behind c1osed doors, or you 1ose respect from your p1ayers.

markf

Public criticism by someone from the team, of players that are, or were on the team is not useful in any way.

Dinwiddie got angry but I don't think he named anyone. He said that some players were passengers.

And have they asked zach to take a cut?

We will never know. It's tricky to sort out bad coaching, bad O line, bad receivers, bad q.b. Play.

Probably some of each in our crappy offensive results.

Our O line did him no favours last few years. He took a beating.

dd

Yes, he did take a beating, not sure how the O 1ine cou1d 1ook him in the eye after some p1ays. He was a1ways under pressure, so no doubt his p1ay dropped. Add to that the disfunctiona1 misfit we had as OC, it was no wonder 1ast season sucked so bad. Mafia isn't stupid, they know what they got as a Qb, and I fu11y expect an improved offense this year.

Ducky

Quote from: Blueforlife on January 28, 2026, 05:27:40 PMZach has taken a lot of heat and he isn't our biggest worry imo
The OL is for me
The issue is Collaros is a bad Qb if he does not have elite protection.

Sir Blue and Gold

#43
Quote from: Ducky on January 29, 2026, 03:10:19 AMThe issue is Collaros is a bad Qb if he does not have elite protection.

That's probably true, but it's probably true of most quarterbacks. The issue for Collaros remains his playstyle.

He put up hall of fame numbers by holding the ball and waiting on his receivers to win. When he was younger he used his athleticism to scramble and extend plays and combined with an ability to read defenses he won on way more plays than he should have.

The issue for the last couple years is the athletism has decreased and he hasn't be able to willing to transition into a more on time three step drop QB like Trevor Harris now or older Anthony Calvillo.

We aren't going to have an elite offensive line this year either. So Collaros needs to get the ball out on time consistently and win playing within the confines of his 38 year old body or he's going to regress again year over year.

I am not hopeful because I haven't really seen it over the last two years enough to be confident he's able to play like that. Not everyone can. Not even some of the greatest. Collaros is in that group I think.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Ducky on January 29, 2026, 03:10:19 AMThe issue is Collaros is a bad Qb if he does not have elite protection.
I don't agree with that exactly but  at this stage of his career he needs average+ protection.

I do believe our biggest way to improve as a club is our OL followed by our DL.

Any QB doesn't look great behind a poor OL.  An elite OL can make an average QB look better.


Waffler

Quote from: Ducky on January 29, 2026, 03:10:19 AMThe issue is Collaros is a bad Qb if he does not have elite protection.

I feel like he's the last one to know his arm is shot. The CFL play of the year SHOULD have been an easy catch/TD but like almost all his deep balls the receiver has to wait. He had time, wound up and gave it his all too.

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Quote from: Waffler on January 29, 2026, 03:13:06 PMI feel like he's the last one to know his arm is shot. The CFL play of the year SHOULD have been an easy catch/TD but like almost all his deep balls the receiver has to wait. He had time, wound up and gave it his all too.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y0j0eUgkjfg

I don't think Zach's arm is shot, he just never had the best arm or technique.  If you watch BLM throw it looks smooth, effortless and graceful. Zach throws the ball like a shot-putter in comparison, putting his entire body into throws, it looks stout, like he spends too much time in the weight room and not enough time doing yoga. 

Blue In BC

He was released today ahead of having to pay the signing bonus.

Ok. So where does he end up and at what SMS?
One game at a time.

blue_gold_84

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2026, 05:04:44 PMElks release QB Ford

If Ford is smart he waits till FA to see if he can ignite a bidding war, I still expect him to end up in BC.

DM83

He's a typical great athlete.
Good escape ability, then Attention deficit disorder kicks in 23 guys all a blur after the ball is snapped.

He needs a true QB whisperer.
I.e pre snap positional read.
Who is likely to be open.
During play look for one receiver based on pre snap read,
Open ...Throw the ball.
Covered? .... who is the next receiver in the area, but at a different field level. Not open?
 run.

I have not seen that with him. I don't think he has the discipline to do that.

I assume most everyone has concluded that as well.  He will be playing in the Edmonton touch league. Does he have a teaching degree?  Any degree? 

That's it.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 30, 2026, 05:08:26 PMIf Ford is smart he waits till FA to see if he can ignite a bidding war, I still expect him to end up in BC.

BC would be the last place I'd expect him to land. A couple of reasons. Rourke is the top CFL QB, young and just extended another 2 seasons into 2028. Their SMS may be an issue with the new players signed and the new contract for Rourke. At least compared to other teams so chances he'd get a much lower contract value offer.

Ford would never see the field there.

Montreal would seem to be out for much the same reason but they'll have more cap room since Alexander still has a reasonable contract.

Ottawa somewhat in the same position. Argos have their QB but higher SMS already.

Teams like the Riders, Bombers, TiCats have QB's that might be close to their last season.

So their may be a small scale bidding war but I'd guess one of those teams might show some interest 1st.

Ford is going to have to drop down to $200K preferably but might get $225K-$250K which IMO is too much.

We'll see soon, probably 1st couple of days into tampering window even though he could sign elsewhere today.
One game at a time.

theaardvark

I guess it comes down to whether teams think he has potential to be a Flutie and compete in spite of his size.

He has shown flashes, and who knows what happens with a different OC, oline and time...

Curious they have kept Ty, guessing he didn't have the same bonus timing.
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#53
Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2026, 05:23:46 PMI guess it comes down to whether teams think he has potential to be a Flutie and compete in spite of his size.

He has shown flashes, and who knows what happens with a different OC, oline and time...

Curious they have kept Ty, guessing he didn't have the same bonus timing.

Well it has something to do with teams not having great # 2 or even # 3 QB's. Bit of a crapshoot. So athletic talent is a good starting place. At least teams know his strengths and his weaknesses.

Tyrell may or may not have early money but is a top player at his position and National status.

Bombers have 5 QB's on the roster and none with much experience behind Collaros. One of the back ups could be the next Collaros or Alexander. Or all of them could get replaced during the course of TC. Even Wilson is a giant question mark we posters can't address. He may have high football IQ that he shows in meeting in practice. He's athletic and could have some upside.

I'm just guessing but I think Bryce Perkins makes a strong run at # 2.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2026, 05:23:46 PMCurious they have kept Ty, guessing he didn't have the same bonus timing.

Why is that curious? I'm sure he did get an off season bonus which they gladly paid.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 30, 2026, 05:08:26 PMIf Ford is smart he waits till FA to see if he can ignite a bidding war, I still expect him to end up in BC.

Unless he's taking a paycut to be QB2, I can't see him going there. The Lions already have a ton invested in their QB1.
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Jesse

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2026, 05:37:32 PMUnless he's taking a paycut to be QB2, I can't see him going there. The Lions already have a ton invested in their QB1.

He's obviously taking a major pay cut, otherwise someone would have just traded for him.
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I would sign him at the right price.
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theaardvark

It seems everyone assumes he is moving on from EDM.  Is there any reason he couldn't end up back in Edm?  Was his release prompted by the impending bonus and not renegotiating the deal in time, or him thinking he could get a better deal elsewhere?

He will get a chance now to see if any other team wants to take a flyer on him, at more than what Edm was willing to commit to him as QB2.  And then he can make his best deal with Hervey to stay with his brother (might be funny if the DB brother ends up better paid than the QB brother, and induce the Sinopoli effect).
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2026, 06:13:38 PMIt seems everyone assumes he is moving on from EDM.  Is there any reason he couldn't end up back in Edm?  Was his release prompted by the impending bonus and not renegotiating the deal in time, or him thinking he could get a better deal elsewhere?

He will get a chance now to see if any other team wants to take a flyer on him, at more than what Edm was willing to commit to him as QB2.  And then he can make his best deal with Hervey to stay with his brother (might be funny if the DB brother ends up better paid than the QB brother, and induce the Sinopoli effect).

The Elks had 2 months to re-negotiate his contact. It's possible he returns but I think that boat may have sailed.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2026, 06:13:38 PMIt seems everyone assumes he is moving on from EDM.

That's a pretty reasonable assumption to make considering he was due a hefty bonus on Sunday.
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VictorRomano

Quote from: theaardvark on January 30, 2026, 06:13:38 PMIt seems everyone assumes he is moving on from EDM.  Is there any reason he couldn't end up back in Edm? 

If I'm him, why would I re-sign with a team that I already had a contract with, and who then went out and released me rather than honor the contract they negotiated in good faith?  Sorry my man, my bags would be packed within 20 minutes of getting off the phone.

theaardvark

You know, I know, Hervey knows, and Tre Ford knows, the contract that he was released from was a non starter.  Was never going to be honoured after the year he had.

No doubt, there were talks to renegotiate it to a QB2 level deal.  But why would Tre sign that without seeing if anyone would take a flyer on his as a potential QB1?

So, the contract is ended, and he's free to negotiate anywhere, even teams where his brother isn't playing.

If soemone wants him a better than QB2, they will pay him a deal better than what Hervey may have been offering to renegotiate to.

Or maybe no one has any interest in him at all, and the deal Hervey offered urns out to be the best he could get.  Hervey has more invested in him, and has an affordable QB1, so ne reason he can't give the best QB2 deal to Tre.



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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2026, 05:37:32 PMUnless he's taking a paycut to be QB2, I can't see him going there. The Lions already have a ton invested in their QB1.

Of course he has to accept his role as a #2 and a commensurate pay cut, but 6 games in half the teams are starting their #2 QB's and with Rourke running like a wild man, decent chance BC will be one of those teams.  Also as a short yardage QB Ford offers so much more than Chase Brice or Masoli, he brings athletic talent and unpredictability.


markf

Didn't Chase look like he could read the defence somewhat when he got in?

I don't think Ford is that good at it, and we're not that good at teaching it.

Hopefully the next qb is already here.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: markf on January 30, 2026, 10:03:39 PMDidn't Chase look like he could read the defence somewhat when he got in?

I don't think Ford is that good at it, and we're not that good at teaching it.

Hopefully the next qb is already here.

He didn't throw a pass in a regular season game. So I'm not sure what to base that on one way or the other. He only dressed for 5 games.

Yes it's possible that we have a QB behind Collaros that will be a good one but we know the past odd/difficulty.  I mentioned I have hopes for Perkins after seeing him play in the UFL.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 30, 2026, 06:15:24 PMThe Elks had 2 months to re-negotiate his contact. It's possible he returns but I think that boat may have sailed.

I could see Hervey going hard after Taylor Powell, the Elks don't really have anything behind Fajardo who is also close to his end.

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The fact of the matter is that Zach is likely at that stage when he is year to year.  We need to develop or acquire a QB who is, or is close to, a starting QB.  There is not a ton of time to spare.  So far I haven't seen that in Trey Ford.
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Blueforlife

#70
I would sign him for $250k but time isn't right here

I wish him luck, a pleasure to watch at times

I see value and potential here at this point

Could be like a Stu Skinner move on then flourish (lower % chance lol)


markf

That seems like a good choice for him to learn from Bo and Milanovich.

Tecno

Makes sense.  I don't know why the cfl.ca article didn't guess this one.  They get a decent SY guy who can also do some tricks, and a has-a-hope backup for BLM.  Plus, if Milanovich is a "QB Whisperer", all the better for Tre.

The fact they came to a deal so early, though, makes me think HAM overpaid.  BUT, with BLM still being "affordable" (relatively), they could afford it.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Signed in Hamilton but Mtl and BC were interested.

Dunk interviews Tre Ford.


Waffler

As I thought Edm let him twist in the wind until the last day.

https://3downnation.com/2026/02/04/canadian-quarterback-tre-ford-chose-hamilton-tiger-cats-over-b-c-lions-montreal-alouettes/

"I actually didn't hear from them until the day they released me. They called me, 'We're gonna make it public.' Knowing the situation and extending Cody, I wasn't oblivious to what was going to happen. I knew what was coming and then they gave me a quick phone call before the release."

Ford indicated there were no conversations with Edmonton about potentially restructuring his contract and staying in the Alberta capital as Fajardo's backup.
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