2026 Winnipeg Blue Bomber Salaries

Started by peg_city, December 19, 2025, 05:20:56 PM

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peg_city

I'm going to update this every time I have new information. Please let me know if you have updated salary information. Salaries in CDN (obviously).

QB - Zach Collaros
QB - Bryce Perkins
QB - Chase Artopoeus
QB - Payton Thorne

RB - Brady Oliveira - $290K (3 down nation)
RB - M. Peterson

FB - M. Chris-Ike

SB - Gavin Cobb
SB - Nic Demski - $240K (3 down nation)
SB - Ontaria Wilson
SB - Tim White - 225K hard. Max 231K, per Dan Ralph
WR - Gerald Munroe - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
WR - Joey Corcoran - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
WR - Tommy Nield - $175K Hard, + 6K all-star bonus, per 3 down
WR - Clercius - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K

LT - Jarell Broxton - 250K, per Farhan
LT - Bryant
LG - Wallace
C - Asotui Eli
OG - Pat Neufeld
RT - Randolph


DE - Willie Jefferson - Around 200K, per 3 down
DT - Cam Lawson
DT - Tanner Schmekel
DE - Jake Ceresna - $235K, per Dave Naylor

NKL - Redha Kramdi - 180K (Hard money, no bonuses, per 3 down nation)
MLB - Tony Jones - $120-$140K range, per 3 down nation
WLB - Kyrie Wilson
WLB - Santos-Knox

DB - Cameron McCutcheon - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
DB - Deatrick Nichols - $175K (3 down)
DB - Evan Holm - $180K hard + 6K in bonuses (3 down)
DB - Trey Vaval - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
DB - Michael Griffin
DB - Bryan Addison - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
DB - A McGhee - Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
CB - John Moxey - $135K Hard, per 3 down

S - Cam Allen -  Likely league minimum or close to it. 70-80K
S - Nick Hallett -

K - Sergio Castillo
P - Jamieson Sheahan

TBURGESS

It would be interesting to put last year's salaries, so we can compare them. 
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Blue In BC

That's only a $15K increase for Demski. I projected more so this is a good deal.
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peg_city

I've been updating as we went along.

Please let me know if I missed a salary (and source it)

Feel free to add this information on an excel spreadsheet and try and figure out what the remaining salaries are. 3 Down will release more salary information as the season starts.

A few notes:

1) I don't think we have a lot of money left after signing a good DE, an O-lineman and a draft pick or two. The bombers usually like to keep a bit of money available for NFL cuts.

2) The fact I did this myself pokeys a hole in 3 down nation's argument that it can't be done.

Blueforlife

Love when people do these
One of the better features of this place
Keep it up all

Tecno

I guess this would be a great place to discuss the SMS thoughts and how I don't see how we are fitting all of these new splash FAs under the cap.

We still have to fill out the rest of the roster.  Does this mean any remaining middling or $25k-over-ELC guys are all going to be passed over in favor of a ton of ELC's?

Or did we have/spend way more '25 SMS before Dec 31 than anyone thought, leaving tons of room in the '26 SMS?

Or are we finally taking the BC approach to going over cap and using more MMM?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on February 03, 2026, 03:43:03 AMI guess this would be a great place to discuss the SMS thoughts and how I don't see how we are fitting all of these new splash FAs under the cap.

We still have to fill out the rest of the roster.  Does this mean any remaining middling or $25k-over-ELC guys are all going to be passed over in favor of a ton of ELC's?

Or did we have/spend way more '25 SMS before Dec 31 than anyone thought, leaving tons of room in the '26 SMS?

Or are we finally taking the BC approach to going over cap and using more MMM?

Money left from 2025 used before the end of 2025. Taking full advantage of the $400K and new $200K SMS to spend this season.
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Jesse

Yeah, a lot of our big re-signings happened in December. That's a lot of signing bonuses against the 2025 cap.

Not to mention the Logan's, Mitchell's, and Vaughters' who we moved on from.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Jesse on February 03, 2026, 05:37:45 PMa lot of our big re-signings happened in December. That's a lot of signing bonuses against the 2025 cap.
Maybe. Maybe not. Signing in December doesn't automatically mean the signing bonuses are against last years cap. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 03, 2026, 07:35:59 PMMaybe. Maybe not. Signing in December doesn't automatically mean the signing bonuses are against last years cap.

No but it's reasonable to think that is the case. We see that every off season. So the list of salaries is interesting but we really don't know what the 2026 breakdown as it relates to the SMS will be.

We will see whether any team exceeded the 2025 SMS but I doubt that at the moment. It could be telling even if some teams exceed which might suggest they took a hit against 2025 to reduce 2026.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 03, 2026, 07:41:48 PMNo but it's reasonable to think that is the case. We see that every off season. So the list of salaries is interesting but we really don't know what the 2026 breakdown as it relates to the SMS will be.

We will see whether any team exceeded the 2025 SMS but I doubt that at the moment. It could be telling even if some teams exceed which might suggest they took a hit against 2025 to reduce 2026.
Reasonable doesn't equal "is true" no matter how you want to spin it.
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bunker

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 12:00:53 AMReasonable doesn't equal "is true" no matter how you want to spin it.
Its by far the most likely scenario. Short of Techno hacking into Walters computer, "likely" is the highest degree of certainty the forum can attain.

Tecno

So many/some think we aren't looking like we'll be over cap for '26?

I'll word it another way then: what other team has made as massive a FA splash as us??  Remember, all of our splash isn't coming at a discount: we're paying full bore for all of these megastars.

If it was all affordable under the cap, how come all the other teams didn't snap up these monsters to become super-Voltron before we did?

So far we've snagged 3 of the top 16 FAs from 3down's pre-FA top-50 list, INCLUDING the #1 selection:
#1 Broxton
#6 Ceresna
#16 Moxey

#33 Nield

No other team is coming anywhere close to our "FA splash" (read: $$$), except maybe EDM (same number of picks in top 16) and to a lesser extent OTT (tons of picks all over the board but not really top ones).  You can also argue we are "overpaying" (no deals to be sure).

And we can write off EDM & OTT as "basement dwellers need to buy their way out of the basement".... but what's WPG's excuse??

That's why I suspect we're throwing SMS to the wind this season, especially once you factor in the massive everyone-gets-a-bump (some huge) re-signs in Dec/Jan and a QB who never goes "team friendly".

I'm not complaining, mind you.  I love it!!
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 12:00:53 AMReasonable doesn't equal "is true" no matter how you want to spin it.

You're trying to spin it the other way. lol
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Blue In BC

#14
Quote from: Tecno on February 04, 2026, 07:10:13 AMSo many/some think we aren't looking like we'll be over cap for '26?

I'll word it another way then: what other team has made as massive a FA splash as us??  Remember, all of our splash isn't coming at a discount: we're paying full bore for all of these megastars.

If it was all affordable under the cap, how come all the other teams didn't snap up these monsters to become super-Voltron before we did?

So far we've snagged 3 of the top 16 FAs from 3down's pre-FA top-50 list, INCLUDING the #1 selection:
#1 Broxton
#6 Ceresna
#16 Moxey

#33 Nield

No other team is coming anywhere close to our "FA splash" (read: $$$), except maybe EDM (same number of picks in top 16) and to a lesser extent OTT (tons of picks all over the board but not really top ones).  You can also argue we are "overpaying" (no deals to be sure).

And we can write off EDM & OTT as "basement dwellers need to buy their way out of the basement".... but what's WPG's excuse??

That's why I suspect we're throwing SMS to the wind this season, especially once you factor in the massive everyone-gets-a-bump (some huge) re-signs in Dec/Jan and a QB who never goes "team friendly".

I'm not complaining, mind you.  I love it!!

We didn't bring back Kolo, Vaughters, Houston, Streveler, Gauthier, Hallett and over 20 players in total that were with the team last year. Others that were re-signed may have taken a pay cut.

So there are some large reductions as well. I doubt we're caps strapped any more than any other teams. Most other teams have re-signed their QB's to extensions which must have cost them.

Lions extended O'Rourke and signed Sankey  for example.  TiCats just signed McManis and extended Lawler.

I want to see who went over in 2025 because that may impact where they are in 2026.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: Tecno on February 04, 2026, 07:10:13 AMSo many/some think we aren't looking like we'll be over cap for '26?

Just like any other time we have this discussion, we just don't know.

Like with Brady, his 290k salary seems nuts, but if we gave him a 100k signing bonus and 50k is marketing money, he's only 140k against the cap.

Wilson has signed 2 different contracts since coming back midway through the year, who the heck knows how much is against the books for 2026?

With the OL, if we replace random American making 70k with Broxton's 250k, we're increasing our spending by 180k, but the salary cap is also over 600k more than what we spent last season.

There are just so many more variables that we're not privy to. The rising cap and our ability to sign players to last years cap certainly makes it believable that Walters can make it fit. But it's just impossible to know.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 04, 2026, 01:19:47 PMYou're trying to spin it the other way. lol
I'm not trying to spin anything.

Facts: 
No one around here knows how much 2025 SMS we had available.
Players signed in December's bonus money would first go to the available 2025 SMS until it was eliminated, then it would go to 2026.

Example: 
If the remaining SMS was $10, then almost all of the bonus money would go to 2026's SMS. 

Therefore:
Players signed in December's bonus money may or may not have been in the 2025 SMS. 

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theaardvark

I truly hope they blew up the 2025 $SMS and every $ for $ match as well.  I'd like to see us having spent $99,999 over the cap for 2025.

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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2026, 04:06:33 PMI truly hope they blew up the 2025 $SMS and every $ for $ match as well.  I'd like to see us having spent $99,999 over the cap for 2025.



It was a bad idea last year and it would have been a bad idea this year or any year.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 03:12:43 PMI'm not trying to spin anything.

Facts:
No one around here knows how much 2025 SMS we had available.
Players signed in December's bonus money would first go to the available 2025 SMS until it was eliminated, then it would go to 2026.

Example:
If the remaining SMS was $10, then almost all of the bonus money would go to 2026's SMS.

Therefore:
Players signed in December's bonus money may or may not have been in the 2025 SMS.



We all know and understand the math but we're talking probabilities. It's been mentioned that every off season teams re-sign potential free agents before the end of the year. They seldom go over the SMS as a result.

History suggests we used a lot of 2025 SMS room since it was also a bigger increase that we didn't know about early enough to spend in free agency or re-signing players.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 04, 2026, 04:44:18 PMWe all know and understand the math but we're talking probabilities. It's been mentioned that every off season teams re-sign potential free agents before the end of the year. They seldom go over the SMS as a result.

History suggests we used a lot of 2025 SMS room since it was also a bigger increase that we didn't know about early enough to spend in free agency or re-signing players.

History also suggest Walters does not intentionally overspend his budget, if he doesn't spend it all during the season it makes it easy to spend what remains on contracts and bonuses for the following season.  Home Grey Cup games make no difference to him, every year he takes the same approach.

TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 04, 2026, 04:44:18 PMWe all know and understand the math but we're talking probabilities. It's been mentioned that every off season teams re-sign potential free agents before the end of the year. They seldom go over the SMS as a result.

History suggests we used a lot of 2025 SMS room since it was also a bigger increase that we didn't know about early enough to spend in free agency or re-signing players.
History suggests and 2025 don't go in the same sentence. 

We probably used last years SMS for some players bonuses isn't what you've been saying at all. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 07:40:59 PMHistory suggests and 2025 don't go in the same sentence.

We probably used last years SMS for some players bonuses isn't what you've been saying at all.

It's exactly what I've been saying.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 07:40:59 PMHistory suggests and 2025 don't go in the same sentence.

We probably used last years SMS for some players bonuses isn't what you've been saying at all.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 04, 2026, 09:05:58 PMIt's exactly what I've been saying.

BinBC: in this thread only.  In all previous threads you've been saying we probably blew the whole '25 cap including the extra $400k in reg season 2025 because of all the 1GIR use.

If you've morphed into thinking there was lots of '25 cap left, great, glad you're joining the club!
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 04, 2026, 04:53:56 PMHome Grey Cup games make no difference to him, every year he takes the same approach.

Tru dat.  2015 and 2025 were both one and done playoff years.  '15 we still kinda stunk, but what's 25's excuse?

KW may think it's prudent, and maybe it is when it comes to long term success, but at the time it sure aggravates most fans who want to "pull a BC"!!

Maybe sucking in '25 by not spending worth a darn is what will propel us to '26 success with splash FA moves -- because we saved all that cap to use on re-signings.  If we went over by $99k in '25, and go over by $99k in '26, plus the $400k freebie last year, plus finally use MMM like BC does... we can afford to put together the best team (on paper) in quite a while.  Ya, ya, not "The Mafia Way", but a fan can dream, eh?
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 04, 2026, 01:30:35 PMWe didn't bring back Kolo, Vaughters, Houston, Streveler, Gauthier, Hallett and over 20 players in total that were with the team last year. Others that were re-signed may have taken a pay cut.

But almost all of those guys were budget!!  Think of it in terms of position, or like-for-like, who's-gone-vs-who's-acquired.  Kolo gone and Broxton in.  That's a huge extra hit to SMS.  Vaughters gone, Ceresna in: double price.  Houston gone, Moxey in: at least $35k more.

All the uber-budget and nobody players were barely above ELC or norm for their position.  So those few positions going back down to ELC doesn't add up to much.  Just Broxton's bump over Ko-man alone will eat that entire group's savings up!

Besides going to ELC on a few more positions, I can't really think of any FA pickup that actually costs less than whatever vet we let walk in that unit!  And that is why we're going super tight to the cap this year.
Never go full Johnston!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on February 05, 2026, 01:52:05 AMTru dat.  2015 and 2025 were both one and done playoff years.  '15 we still kinda stunk, but what's 25's excuse?

KW may think it's prudent, and maybe it is when it comes to long term success, but at the time it sure aggravates most fans who want to "pull a BC"!!

Maybe sucking in '25 by not spending worth a darn is what will propel us to '26 success with splash FA moves -- because we saved all that cap to use on re-signings.  If we went over by $99k in '25, and go over by $99k in '26, plus the $400k freebie last year, plus finally use MMM like BC does... we can afford to put together the best team (on paper) in quite a while.  Ya, ya, not "The Mafia Way", but a fan can dream, eh?


If they demonstrate a change in attitude and go over budget it may be that Wade intervened to halt the slide and get them back on track.  From his perspective success comes down to a sold out stadium with lots of food, booze and merch sales.  The key to keeping the stands full is creating a fun environment for everyone and Bomber fans are famously only joyful when the team is winning. 

No other president currently in the league has been able to come close to doing what he's done, those idiots in Toronto should be embarrassed how badly he's kicking their butts.

GCn19

I cant find enough spending during the season last year to even come close to the 400k  we didnt spend after the SMS went up. Not to mention Schoen's 6 game stints etc.

We almost definitely had SMS left for 2025. KW doesn't go shopping unless he has cash.
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Jesse

Quote from: GCn19 on February 05, 2026, 03:33:21 AMI cant find enough spending during the season last year to even come close to the 400k  we didnt spend after the SMS went up. Not to mention Schoen's 6 game stints etc.

We almost definitely had SMS left for 2025. KW doesn't go shopping unless he has cash.

We definitely had so much cash. And, in retrospect, it's a way better use if it now than to have arbitrarily overpaid for the scrubs that were left after FA was already mid-swing when the announcement was made last year.

What an absolute cluster f that was.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 04, 2026, 07:40:59 PMHistory suggests and 2025 don't go in the same sentence.

We probably used last years SMS for some players bonuses isn't what you've been saying at all.

Read my post # 6 in this string.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on February 05, 2026, 01:48:11 AMBinBC: in this thread only.  In all previous threads you've been saying we probably blew the whole '25 cap including the extra $400k in reg season 2025 because of all the 1GIR use.

If you've morphed into thinking there was lots of '25 cap left, great, glad you're joining the club!


No I said we used some of the SMS by using the 1 game IR. Every team did that to one extent or another. Since the increase wasn't known early enough, they couldn't us it all / most of it in free agency. The fact we re-signed our top players before the end of the year suggests the excess SMS was higher than normal.

Maybe I worded some comments badly but that has always been my position about every team having more money left.

After the end of December teams have been using the full $400K + $200K SMS to sign some new players in free agency.

I don't think we went over in 2025 but we'll see how that shakes out. If we did go over it would suggest we had less SMS left than I imagined. If we didn't go over it would suggest we were using left over SMS as I've suggested.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 05, 2026, 01:14:59 PMThe fact we re-signed our top players before the end of the year suggests the excess SMS was higher than normal.
Teams always re-sign players at the end of the year. They always use what's left of the SMS. We never know how much was left or how much of the bonuses are in the last year's SMS. 

Last year there was an SMS 'bonus' that we used to 1 GIR players. How much was left after that is anyone's guess. 

The fact that there was a SMS 'bonus' suggests the excess was higher, not that we re-signed top players. 
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Blue In BC

#32
Quote from: TBURGESS on February 05, 2026, 03:19:34 PMTeams always re-sign players at the end of the year. They always use what's left of the SMS. We never know how much was left or how much of the bonuses are in the last year's SMS.

Last year there was an SMS 'bonus' that we used to 1 GIR players. How much was left after that is anyone's guess.

The fact that there was a SMS 'bonus' suggests the excess was higher, not that we re-signed top players.

But we did re-sign top players: Oliveria, Demski, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi, Eli and Lawson all signed before the end of the year in December. There were some substantial increases for those players.

Compare that to December 2024 when we only re-signed Bryant.

Sure we don't know exactly how much was left but that's a strong indication there was a lot and we used it to our advantage.

On Feb 1 ( and T. White ) we gave out some very high contracts. That suggests that we're using 2026 SMS and didn't burn off most of that in December with those players being re-signed. Yes bonus payments could be pushed into 2026 but that wouldn't be the norm.

That seems like a reasonable 2 + 2 = 4 set of conclusions regardless of the exact amounts spent in December. Other teams are throwing around money in similar fashion.

When do we see the results of the 2025 SMS and whether anyone went over?
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 05, 2026, 03:19:34 PMTeams always re-sign players at the end of the year. They always use what's left of the SMS. We never know how much was left or how much of the bonuses are in the last year's SMS.

Last year there was an SMS 'bonus' that we used to 1 GIR players. How much was left after that is anyone's guess.

The fact that there was a SMS 'bonus' suggests the excess was higher, not that we re-signed top players.

They extended Collaros an extra year on his existing contract on 05/23/25, so it's conceivable some of his 2026 bonus money also came out of the 2025 SMS.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2026, 04:41:47 PMThey extended Collaros an extra year on his existing contract on 05/23/25, so it's conceivable some of his 2026 bonus money also came out of the 2025 SMS.

We were also told that Collaros received 2 bonuses already this year. I'm pretty certain his whole contract is 2026 money.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on February 05, 2026, 05:15:13 PMWe were also told that Collaros received 2 bonuses already this year. I'm pretty certain his whole contract is 2026 money.

I thought that was a glitch, cause it didn't make any sense.

TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 05, 2026, 03:39:18 PMBut we did re-sign top players: Oliveria, Demski, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi, Eli and Lawson all signed before the end of the year in December. There were some substantial increases for those players.

Compare that to December 2024 when we only re-signed Bryant.

Sure we don't know exactly how much was left but that's a strong indication there was a lot and we used it to our advantage.

On Feb 1 ( and T. White ) we gave out some very high contracts. That suggests that we're using 2026 SMS and didn't burn off most of that in December with those players being re-signed. Yes bonus payments could be pushed into 2026 but that wouldn't be the norm.

That seems like a reasonable 2 + 2 = 4 set of conclusions regardless of the exact amounts spent in December. Other teams are throwing around money in similar fashion.

When do we see the results of the 2025 SMS and whether anyone went over?
It doesn't matter how big the contracts are, contracts are paid in 2026. The only thing we could back date to 2025 SMS is bonus money. 

Giving big contracts this year, doesn't suggest we didn't burn SMS in December, it indicates that we had to upgrade to even make the playoffs this year. It suggests that top players will get more money because of the SMS bumps in 2025 & 2026.

Whether or not anyone went over the 2025 SMS is a moo point. (No one cares what a cow thinks) It has absolutely nothing to do with the disagreement.
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GCn19

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 06, 2026, 12:58:13 AMIt doesn't matter how big the contracts are, contracts are paid in 2026. The only thing we could back date to 2025 SMS is bonus money.

Giving big contracts this year, doesn't suggest we didn't burn SMS in December, it indicates that we had to upgrade to even make the playoffs this year. It suggests that top players will get more money because of the SMS bumps in 2025 & 2026.

Whether or not anyone went over the 2025 SMS is a moo point. (No one cares what a cow thinks) It has absolutely nothing to do with the disagreement.


We saved substantial SMS for 2026 in December. We signed most of our bonus heavy players in that time and they had pretty big signing bonuses that were paid. The reason those deals were done early was to use up 2025 SMS. Walters hinted at that in the interview he gave.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 06, 2026, 12:58:13 AMIt doesn't matter how big the contracts are, contracts are paid in 2026. The only thing we could back date to 2025 SMS is bonus money.

Giving big contracts this year, doesn't suggest we didn't burn SMS in December, it indicates that we had to upgrade to even make the playoffs this year. It suggests that top players will get more money because of the SMS bumps in 2025 & 2026.

Whether or not anyone went over the 2025 SMS is a moo point. (No one cares what a cow thinks) It has absolutely nothing to do with the disagreement.


I'll stick with the probability that many have mentioned. I think that you are just being negative.

Yes going over the SMS is a valid question as it relates to teams that re-signed players in December that appear to have significant early bonus money. It's all part of the evaluation.

One game at a time.

Jesse

Every contract which we've seen the details of has included a sigficant signing bonus. Up to half the total value of the deal.

It's not a huge leap to assume the same of our December deals. Especially considering the circumstances.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: GCn19 on February 06, 2026, 12:42:12 PMWe saved substantial SMS for 2026 in December. We signed most of our bonus heavy players in that time and they had pretty big signing bonuses that were paid. The reason those deals were done early was to use up 2025 SMS. Walters hinted at that in the interview he gave.
That's your opinion; now prove it.
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 06, 2026, 01:16:32 PMI'll stick with the probability that many have mentioned. I think that you are just being negative.

Yes going over the SMS is a valid question as it relates to teams that re-signed players in December that appear to have significant early bonus money. It's all part of the evaluation.


It's not negative to point out facts.

Going over the SMS is a red herring. Teams have a choice in December of where to put the bonus money. Once last year's SMS is gone, they would put it into 2026.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: Jesse on February 06, 2026, 02:25:00 PMEvery contract which we've seen the details of has included a sigficant signing bonus. Up to half the total value of the deal.

It's not a huge leap to assume the same of our December deals. Especially considering the circumstances.
Now that's the way to state an opinion. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 06, 2026, 02:38:22 PMThat's your opinion; now prove it.It's not negative to point out facts.

Going over the SMS is a red herring. Teams have a choice in December of where to put the bonus money. Once last year's SMS is gone, they would put it into 2026.

You're the odd man out. You prove your theory.
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theaardvark

By mid Dec, there should be 100% accurate accounting of how much cap we have left in that fiscal year.  Any players that we are going to re-sign, and who want to stay, and that you can get to sign then, should be offered 2025 dated bonuses that use up that allotment, plus $99k.

There is literally no downside to leaving that $SMS on the table.  Especailly when the books are as black as ours are.

Of course, no bonuses are offered to oft injured players, as we WANT to garner 6 game IR recoup should they end up there.  But guys who have play a number of years for us, and the vast majority of the games in that time, bonus the heck out of them.
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Pete

So, with limited $ available, is there any free agents we should pursue?
recievers :Bridges, Addison, may be available at a discount
  Db - I dont see any decent choices
  Dt - maybe Cox
  Oline Mckellar, McEwan (not sure if hes healthy)




peg_city

Quote from: Pete on February 07, 2026, 12:02:51 AMSo, with limited $ available, is there any free agents we should pursue?
recievers :Bridges, Addison, may be available at a discount
  Db - I dont see any decent choices
  Dt - maybe Cox
  Oline Mckellar, McEwan (not sure if hes healthy)

At this point I'm thinking that we are only looking for a WR to play in Wheatfall's/Lawler's spot.

Seems like an important position.

Throw Long Bannatyne

GM's are perfectly synchronized, they all blew their wads in the first couple of days and no signings since, if I was an unsigned player I'd be feeling pretty nervous about extending my football career.

TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 07, 2026, 01:37:04 PMI already have, just read the other comments in the string by other posters.
That's not proof. That's conjecture that you're calling proof.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on February 07, 2026, 12:02:51 AMSo, with limited $ available, is there any free agents we should pursue?
recievers :Bridges, Addison, may be available at a discount
  Db - I dont see any decent choices
  Dt - maybe Cox
  Oline Mckellar, McEwan (not sure if hes healthy)





Money aside: Nothing is preventing teams from adding players in the tampering window. In that sense nothing changes when we get to actual free agency.

The list of choices is significantly smaller and most of the top players have agreed to deals with new teams.

None of the teams have been making big moves after the 1st couple of days. I don't expect a lot of new movement or big spending on the 10th.



One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on February 07, 2026, 02:58:08 PMThat's not proof. That's conjecture that you're calling proof.

Occums razor. Now you're just becoming a troll disagreeing with what many posters are saying.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#50
Dom Rhymes still available, can't see the Stamps letting him slip away as he has a great connection with VA,  but hard to understand the delay in re-signing him.

On further review Rhymes may have become an unnecessary expense.

Under contract:
Begelton
Pilpot
Eric Brooks
Clark Barnes
Tevin Jones
Plus the tall moose guy, first round draft pick Damien Alford currently dipping his toes in NFL waters.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2026, 05:42:26 PMDom Rhymes still available, can't see the Stamps letting him slip away as he has a great connection with VA but hard to understand the delay in re-signing him.

There are a few good players left but as you mentioned it's odd they haven't re-signed or decided to move elsewhere.

One game at a time.

TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 07, 2026, 03:07:25 PMOccums razor. Now you're just becoming a troll disagreeing with what many posters are saying.
Occam's razor does not guarantee truth It is not a law of logic or fact; it suggests the simplest explanation—requiring the fewest assumptions—is usually the best starting point for investigation.

If you use "possibly," then Occam's razor is enough. When you say something happened, the level of proof goes up to absolute. 

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Blue In BC

#53
Quote from: TBURGESS on February 08, 2026, 02:46:15 PMOccam's razor does not guarantee truth. It is not a law of logic or fact; it suggests the simplest explanation—requiring the fewest assumptions—is usually the best starting point for investigation.

If you use "possibly," then Occam's razor is enough. When you say something happened, the level of proof goes up to absolute.



No but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the probabilities of how the CFL works. Your silly use of meme's is childish but continue as you like.

Somewhere in this string or others on the forum it was even mentioned that was exactly what O'Shea said was done. Of course it's possible he's lying through his teeth since nothing is ever 100% certain.  None of us needs it to be 100% certain except you needing validation.

Are we having fun yet?
One game at a time.

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BLUEBOMBER

Rhymes would be a great addition to the BB receiving corps.

Tecno

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on February 11, 2026, 12:51:34 AMRhymes would be a great addition to the BB receiving corps.

Cheap Rhymes, yes.  Gino-level $ Rhymes, no thanks!  I would take him at $135k, but he has to earn his spot in TC.  Maybe a rookie is the next big thing...
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 05, 2026, 03:39:18 PMWhen do we see the results of the 2025 SMS and whether anyone went over?

I think usually in April they are announced?  When's the draft?  Wouldn't the result have to be announced pre-draft so any draft penalties are applied, as they were to BC last season?

I really wish they were announced earlier, but for some reason CFL likes to keep info as secretive as possible, as long as possible.  In theory it's all submitted to the CFL and in a spreadsheet by end of Jan.

I think the only team that might be over by more than $100k is BC, but probably not even them.  I bet SSK, BC, MTL are all minorly over.  Probably us too, as that seems to be our trend the last few years.
Never go full Johnston!

gobombersgo

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have officially signed American defensive back Jonathan Moxey to a two-year contract, tying him to the team through 2027. 3DownNation reported the agreement last week.

The five-foot-ten, 190-pound defender will earn $135,000 in hard money for 2026 and $140,000 in hard money for 2027, per sources. Moxey got a $25,000 signing bonus to ratify the deal and he's also scheduled to receive a $25,000 offseason roster bonus on January 15, 2027. The deal was negotiated by veteran agent Fred Weinrauch.

https://3downnation.com/2026/02/10/official-winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-former-all-star-jonathan-moxey/

gobombersgo

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have officially signed Canadian receiver Tommy Nield to a two-year contract. 3DownNation reported the agreement last week.

The contract is worth $175,000 in hard money for 2026 and $187,500 in hard money for 2027, per sources. Nield received a $50,000 bonus to sign the contract and is scheduled to earn a $50,000 offseason roster bonus on January 15, 2027. He can also earn up to $6,000 in all-star and awards incentives in both years.

https://3downnation.com/2026/02/10/official-winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-tommy-nield-to-two-year-contract/

peg_city

I've been playing around with this information, with a few assumptions.

Either, they are right up against the cap or over it. I have them around 6.1 million, but again, I've made assumptions.

Maybe Collaros isn't making 600K and/or maybe a few back-up QBs are making less than 125K.

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on February 11, 2026, 02:46:01 PMI've been playing around with this information, with a few assumptions.

Either, they are right up against the cap or over it. I have them around 6.1 million, but again, I've made assumptions.

Maybe Collaros isn't making 600K and/or maybe a few back-up QBs are making less than 125K.

I mean, we don't even know who's on the team yet. Even besides the fact that we can't project how many people will get injured or spend time on the 1 game or 6 game IR, we don't know how many guys on first year deals will be on the active roster. Not to mention the bonuses paid out in 2025 or use of marketing money.

It's just a fool's errand.

My wife is amazing!

peg_city

Quote from: Jesse on February 11, 2026, 04:45:57 PMI mean, we don't even know who's on the team yet. Even besides the fact that we can't project how many people will get injured or spend time on the 1 game or 6 game IR, we don't know how many guys on first year deals will be on the active roster. Not to mention the bonuses paid out in 2025 or use of marketing money.

It's just a fool's errand.



I'm not looking for exact numbers. Just a general ball-park of where the money is going. We can probably get close.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on February 11, 2026, 04:45:57 PMI mean, we don't even know who's on the team yet. Even besides the fact that we can't project how many people will get injured or spend time on the 1 game or 6 game IR, we don't know how many guys on first year deals will be on the active roster. Not to mention the bonuses paid out in 2025 or use of marketing money.

It's just a fool's errand.

It must be super difficult to plan and budget for all contingencies, having backups ready to go for every player on the starting lineup who could be injured and miss the entire season. Much worse when numerous players from the same position group go down together, I believe the Sask. O-line dealt with that situation 3-4 years ago.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2026, 05:56:47 PMIt must be super difficult to plan and budget for all contingencies, having backups ready to go for every player on the starting lineup who could be injured and miss the entire season. Much worse when numerous players from the same position group go down together, I believe the Sask. O-line dealt with that situation 3-4 years ago.

It's is, but I'm sure they keep records of average man time lost and how much they need to hold in reserve in order to account for extra players coming in for people on the 1 game injured list.
My wife is amazing!

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on February 11, 2026, 05:39:53 PMI'm not looking for exact numbers. Just a general ball-park of where the money is going. We can probably get close.

We could absolutely get a ball park for salaries. We just have no idea what is going against the 2026 salary cap.
My wife is amazing!

gobombersgo

Quote from: Jesse on February 11, 2026, 08:22:42 PMIt's is, but I'm sure they keep records of average man time lost and how much they need to hold in reserve in order to account for extra players coming in for people on the 1 game injured list.

I heard an interview Walters did last season and he really knew his numbers with respect to his team's injuries, the league average, etc.

He knows whats going on.