Bombers add DB Cameron McCutcheon

Sir Blue and Gold · December 14, 2025, 02:28:36 PM

Quote from: Pete on December 14, 2025, 02:24:46 AMCan't see them going away from Cdn at sam especially with Smith likely to play a bigger role in his 2nd year. Plus I would think they would have thoughts about adding an import to the oline.

And they'd probably want Kramdi and Smith but who knows if Kramdi will stay and who knows if Smith can do it. Plus you need to plan for scenarios where he's hurt early or gone for a long stretch. Part of the deal is just having the body types in camp to see how it all shakes out.

Blue72 · December 14, 2025, 07:13:05 PM

What the coaches have to teach their players in camp is how to tackle with their arms instead of just hitting players with their shoulder pads. Notice a Big difference in tackling in the grey cup game from Sask and Montreal players.

Tecno · December 14, 2025, 08:29:44 PM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on December 14, 2025, 02:28:36 PMAnd they'd probably want Kramdi and Smith but who knows if Kramdi will stay

I see no reason for him to walk. He's highly valued and always touted by the coaches, and that's gotta feel nice for him. He'll be paid an uninsulting salary here, and he knows he can be part of the long term plans here.

Plus, he's good, but not superstar/Ford level good, meaning who the heck else would want to snipe him with an overpay offer?? That's the best thing about these non-ELCs who are "pretty good" but not tier-1 good. And we seem to have a lot of them, and I think that's overall beneficial to build a base around.

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 14, 2025, 10:02:49 PM

Quote from: Blue72 on December 14, 2025, 07:13:05 PMWhat the coaches have to teach their players in camp is how to tackle with their arms instead of just hitting players with their shoulder pads. Notice a Big difference in tackling in the grey cup game from Sask and Montreal players.

Kramdi is terrible for trying to tackle without using his arms, he should take lessons from Holm.

LXTSN · December 15, 2025, 04:22:28 PM

This is a legit prospect!
I know the ones that I'm the highest on seem to fail the hardest, but I wouldn't try and change positions for him. We need another lock down DB and this is one with a little extra size!
Guys like Philpot, Rhymes, Alford that would snag the jump balls would have a little more competition with someone like this.
He still has to be a good cover guy, but his situation is exactly what you want.
Undrafted, but measured well in the combine. Joined an NFL team for preseason and did very well (3 knockdowns is really good!). Got hurt, and now those NFL teams aren't interested in waiting around for him.
So long as he's healthy, I think this could turn out to be a bigtime player!

Pigskin · December 16, 2025, 07:17:30 PM

I think if the Bombers don't find a Canadian safety in FA, Cam Allen is the odds on favorite to win that position in TC. He has 10 games CFL experience and understanding our D, will give him an advantage.

Jesse · December 16, 2025, 07:50:16 PM

Quote from: Pigskin on December 16, 2025, 07:17:30 PMI think if the Bombers don't find a Canadian safety in FA, Cam Allen is the odds on favorite to win that position in TC. He has 10 games CFL experience and understanding our D, will give him an advantage.

I wouldn't have even considered the possibility of anyone else being safety next season.

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 16, 2025, 07:55:59 PM

Quote from: Jesse on December 16, 2025, 07:50:16 PMI wouldn't have even considered the possibility of anyone else being safety next season.

Depends where Kramdi fits in and where they play Griffin, Woodbey and Ayers. Will they walk away from Kyrie to make room for some of the younger guys?

Tecno · December 16, 2025, 07:59:17 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 16, 2025, 07:55:59 PMDepends where Kramdi fits in and where they play Griffin, Woodbey and Ayers. Will they walk away from Kyrie to make room for some of the younger guys?

Which would be very ironic considering this was Kyrie's first 18-game all-healthy season since '19, and probably his best, stats-wise.

Kyrie was very good at WILL in '25. The only thing I would say boo about is out LBers as a whole didn't do enough to stop the run explosions and TDs in big games -- but that might be more on scheme.

If he stays healthy and remains affordable, why ditch him? Since he's 33 already, maybe do a 1-year and go from there.

Throw Long Bannatyne · December 16, 2025, 11:03:47 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 16, 2025, 07:59:17 PMWhich would be very ironic considering this was Kyrie's first 18-game all-healthy season since '19, and probably his best, stats-wise.

Kyrie was very good at WILL in '25. The only thing I would say boo about is out LBers as a whole didn't do enough to stop the run explosions and TDs in big games -- but that might be more on scheme.

If he stays healthy and remains affordable, why ditch him? Since he's 33 already, maybe do a 1-year and go from there.

Can't keep everyone happy, re-sign Kyrie and the inevitable question becomes, who do they let walk and why would they make that decision. Woodbey-no. Griffin-no. Ayers-maybe.

LXTSN · December 17, 2025, 03:15:33 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 16, 2025, 07:59:17 PMWhich would be very ironic considering this was Kyrie's first 18-game all-healthy season since '19, and probably his best, stats-wise.

Kyrie was very good at WILL in '25. The only thing I would say boo about is out LBers as a whole didn't do enough to stop the run explosions and TDs in big games -- but that might be more on scheme.

If he stays healthy and remains affordable, why ditch him? Since he's 33 already, maybe do a 1-year and go from there.

I think I'd argue against this point.
He had 49 tackles last season in 18 games. That's an average of 2.7 tackles per game.
I know that he provides stability for this defense, but I think he's a very safe choice at that position where we've stock-piled depth and talent. I'd rather take the chance that one of Ayers, Woodbey, Shay, Smith or someone new can be a bigger difference maker in that position.

We know Wilson will be back in his weakside position though. It's just how the Bombers roll.

Tecno · December 17, 2025, 05:54:47 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 17, 2025, 03:15:33 PMI think I'd argue against this point.

Maybe if you're comparing Kyrie to other teams WILL. I was talking Kyrie vs Kyrie.

https://www.cfl.ca/players/kyrie-wilson/162563/

2025 was miles better than the 6 preceding seasons. Only his 2019 comes close.

Interesting he was here and playing once in a while in '17-'18. I guess he was our dev pipeline. Who was taking the reps then? Wild? I was never really aware of Kyrie until '19 when he lit it all up. He & Biggie were almost as good as "team 100" that year.

LXTSN · December 17, 2025, 08:13:30 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 17, 2025, 05:54:47 PMMaybe if you're comparing Kyrie to other teams WILL. I was talking Kyrie vs Kyrie.

https://www.cfl.ca/players/kyrie-wilson/162563/

2025 was miles better than the 6 preceding seasons. Only his 2019 comes close.

Interesting he was here and playing once in a while in '17-'18. I guess he was our dev pipeline. Who was taking the reps then? Wild? I was never really aware of Kyrie until '19 when he lit it all up. He & Biggie were almost as good as "team 100" that year.

That's what I'm comparing as well. Kyrie averaged 2.7 tackles per game last season vs the almost 4 tackles per game he averaged in the 2 seasons prior. There's obviously more to it than that, but that was my stat I brought to the table.
If he's regressed it's really not much.

Comparing him to the rest of the league, he's average or slightly below but he's consistent and smart. I'd just personally lean towards the higher risk and higher reward of trying other options. We have a stock pile of options.

Tecno · December 17, 2025, 08:26:02 PM

Quote from: LXTSN on December 17, 2025, 08:13:30 PMThat's what I'm comparing as well. Kyrie averaged 2.7 tackles per game last season vs the almost 4 tackles per game he averaged in the 2 seasons prior.

Ah, I see what you're saying. Ya, the CFL stats page isn't immediately useful on a per-game basis unless you do the math in your head.

I'd still say this is Kyrie's best year though because it's the first one in ages he wasn't injured. I bet in FA25 most people thought Kyrie would be an injury liability. Maybe a hint as to how we should be thinking about Schoen...

My main beef with the whole LB corps (and scheme) is how we didn't seem to be able to stop Oullette or Scott from plowing for 10Y+ in important games. I'm not sure how much of that is on Kyrie. Would we have done better if our WILL was Beverette? Or is it scheme...

Jesse · December 17, 2025, 08:43:50 PM

Quote from: Tecno on December 17, 2025, 08:26:02 PMAh, I see what you're saying. Ya, the CFL stats page isn't immediately useful on a per-game basis unless you do the math in your head.

I'd still say this is Kyrie's best year though because it's the first one in ages he wasn't injured. I bet in FA25 most people thought Kyrie would be an injury liability. Maybe a hint as to how we should be thinking about Schoen...

My main beef with the whole LB corps (and scheme) is how we didn't seem to be able to stop Oullette or Scott from plowing for 10Y+ in important games. I'm not sure how much of that is on Kyrie. Would we have done better if our WILL was Beverette? Or is it scheme...

2019 was his best year. And the exciting thing about Kyrie is that we thought he was going to get better. But injuries and it never happened. Now he finally has a year where he's healthy, but it wasn't even as good as back when he was younger with more potential.

He's a fine placeholder within our defense, but he's not the impact player we were hoping we had. I imagine he returns, but hopefully some of our young prospects start to push for snaps.