Blue Bombers add quarterback

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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 26, 2025, 04:24:27 PMSure but the comparison to needing the next Streveler is flawed...

It's just Friesen's opinion, so take it FWIW: not all that much.

Perkins could be a stopgap depending on how does in TC. And if he can handle the SY/jumbo package duties at the very least, that's a win.
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 26, 2025, 04:24:27 PMSure but the comparison to needing the next Streveler is flawed since he was only never more than a short yardage QB.

That's a role for a # 3 QB not the next hope for the next # 2 for more than a season.

Can he be that player? IDK so TC will be interesting to see if he leap frogs the other candidates.

I don't really want to get bogged down in the definitions of #2 vs #3 and their responsibilities. Those change based on the team and personnel.

Streveler was all of those things last year when healthy.

A guy like Perkins is going to compete to be the back-up and if he doesn't show he's capable, he's likely cut. Whether the back-up is also the short yardage guy depends on who it is, I guess. But we haven't seen it be two separate people since Dru Brown was here.
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Blue In BC

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Quote from: Jesse on November 26, 2025, 04:38:38 PMI don't really want to get bogged down in the definitions of #2 vs #3 and their responsibilities. Those change based on the team and personnel.

Streveler was all of those things last year when healthy.

A guy like Perkins is going to compete to be the back-up and if he doesn't show he's capable, he's likely cut. Whether the back-up is also the short yardage guy depends on who it is, I guess. But we haven't seen it be two separate people since Dru Brown was here.

Most teams don't use the # 2 as the short yardage guy. That's the point. The short yardage QB is a development player that starts as short yardage type IMO.

Streveler was an exception because we never had a real development player after Dru Brown.  In that sense and reason he filled both roles. It's debatable whether Wilson or Arto will ever progress from a # 3 spot unless due to injury. Whether either is even on the roster in 2026 in unknown.
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Anyone see anything on social media on Strev's state of mind?  I assume he went under the knife and is contemplating rehab, maybe he's still in Wpg?

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 26, 2025, 04:44:05 PMMost teams don't use the # 2 as the short yardage guy. That's the point. The short yardage QB is a development player that starts as short yardage type IMO.

Streveler was an exception because we never had a real development player after Dru Brown.  In that sense and reason he filled both roles. It's debatable whether Wilson or Arto will ever progress from a # 3 spot unless due to injury. Whether either is even on the roster in 2026 in unknown.

I don't know if teams are really operating this way anymore.

We certainly haven't. As far as I know the athletic QBs like Rourke and VAJ are doing their own short yardage snaps. Sask as Stevens who is SY specialist. They're not developing him. Same with Dolegala in Hamilton who was used entirely for SY. Also no a prospect at this point in his career. Montreal used a mix of Caleb Evans and Shea Patterson.

The only guy I can think of who might fit the mold you're talking about is Dustin Crum in Ottawa. But there's not too many teams using a young prospect that they are developing as the SY guy. It seems to be a mix of starters and athletic vets.
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The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB

Quote from: peg_city on November 25, 2025, 06:42:09 PMUFL player of the year. Wow. We might have something here.

Hol up.
The Bombers signed the 1997 MVP of the World League of American Football and brought him in for the 1998 season.
He started the first 10 games that year and lost them all lol.
I won't mention his name for fear of triggering PTSD in some of the older posters. 

peg_city

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 26, 2025, 05:47:45 PMHol up.
The Bombers signed the 1997 MVP of the World League of American Football and brought him in for the 1998 season.
He started the first 10 games that year and lost them all lol.
I won't mention his name for fear of triggering PTSD in some of the older posters. 


I didn't know that  :o

Also, looking at the Bomber roster in 1998, I completely forgot about Kevin Mason.

https://www.statscrew.com/football/stats/p-masonkev001#:~:text=Kevin%20Mason%20played%20from%201996,35%20touchdowns%20and%2041%20interceptions.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 26, 2025, 04:11:50 PMWe don't need the next Streveler. We need the next legit # 2 QB that can progress to a # 1 QB.

We do.  WPG has had a SY specialist for the entire Mafia tenure.  It's part of our M.O.  And teams with a specialist who is good tend to do better.  See: SSK with their unstoppable freight train.

If Strev is out half/all year and/or not re-signed then bringing in a Strev clone (but younger and with a good knee) is just what the doctor ordered.  Hopefully we can turn him into a legit SY super fast -- don't want failures on 3rd & 1 early in the season.

It might be a clean sweep of the QB room-not-named-Zach this season.  And I would be ok with that.

P.S. No way we roll without a SY guy, and no reason anyone ever should because the 3rd dressed QB is a "free/forced dress".  Why waste/risk that job on a RB, or your starting QB, or some other player?  Those guys have more important things to be doing.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:19:51 AMWe do.  WPG has had a SY specialist for the entire Mafia tenure.  It's part of our M.O.  And teams with a specialist who is good tend to do better.  See: SSK with their unstoppable freight train.

If Strev is out half/all year and/or not re-signed then bringing in a Strev clone (but younger and with a good knee) is just what the doctor ordered.  Hopefully we can turn him into a legit SY super fast -- don't want failures on 3rd & 1 early in the season.

It might be a clean sweep of the QB room-not-named-Zach this season.  And I would be ok with that.

P.S. No way we roll without a SY guy, and no reason anyone ever should because the 3rd dressed QB is a "free/forced dress".  Why waste/risk that job on a RB, or your starting QB, or some other player?  Those guys have more important things to be doing.

That's not the point. The point is that we don't need our # 2 QB to be the SY player. We need to find a # 2 QB with an actual chance to become a starter in the future, not a place holder.

At the moment that would be Wilson. What we don't know is whether he will win the spot as # 2.  I don't think that is the case and he may not even make the roster in 2026.
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VictorRomano

Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:19:51 AMWPG has had a SY specialist for the entire Mafia tenure.  It's part of our M.O.  And teams with a specialist who is good tend to do better.  See: SSK with their unstoppable freight train.

Sadly, people called me crazy last offseason when I said we should jettison Streveller and go after Tommy Stevens as our SY guy.

Blue In BC

Quote from: VictorRomano on Today at 02:21:37 PMSadly, people called me crazy last offseason when I said we should jettison Streveller and go after Tommy Stevens as our SY guy.

I think many were in favour of a change but we appointed Strev as our # 2 QB before the start of TC IMO. That's where the problem began.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 03:54:38 PMI think many were in favour of a change but we appointed Strev as our # 2 QB before the start of TC IMO. That's where the problem began.

I don't know if that's entirely accurate. Streveler started week 1 vs. BC and fared well enough with Collaros serving that ridiculous 1-game suspension.

Collaros got hurt a few weeks later and Streveler struggled to find any rhythm or success in his place.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 04:23:41 PMI don't know if that's entirely accurate. Streveler started week 1 vs. BC and fared well enough with Collaros serving that ridiculous 1-game suspension.

Collaros got hurt a few weeks later and Streveler struggled to find any rhythm or success in his place.

Didn't Strev win all 3 of the games he started if not impress? Techno will be by shortly to verify.

Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on Today at 04:23:41 PMI don't know if that's entirely accurate. Streveler started week 1 vs. BC and fared well enough with Collaros serving that ridiculous 1-game suspension.

Collaros got hurt a few weeks later and Streveler struggled to find any rhythm or success in his place.

Well if you think Streveler is a qualified # 2 QB then we have a different view. Yes the Bombers won the game but that doesn't mean much IMO. He's not a good QB beyond being a SY freak of nature so to speak.

In that game Peterson ran for 130 yards and Lions were still trying to define their roster.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 05:46:02 PMWell if you think Streveler is a qualified # 2 QB then we have a different view. Yes the Bombers won the game but that doesn't mean much IMO. He's not a good QB beyond being a SY freak of nature so to speak.

In that game Peterson ran for 130 yards and Lions were still trying to define their roster.

I said or implied no such thing. I simply disagree with the claim that a problem started in TC relative to the QB corps here for 2025.

A win is a win and Streveler helped the team get that win in week 1. Your silly excuses for the Lions being on the losing end of that game don't change that fact.
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