New rules / commissioner's statements

Started by theaardvark, November 15, 2025, 03:08:19 PM

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wpg#1

I don't understand how touchdowns will increase. If you're on the 40 yard line or even the 30 yard line, and it's 3rd and 10 ... now you would try a field goal. In 2027 you're not going to try a field goal or go for a touchdown. Scoring will decrease then.
Am I missing something ?
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: wpg#1 on Today at 01:41:35 PMI don't understand how touchdowns will increase. If you're on the 40 yard line or even the 30 yard line, and it's 3rd and 10 ... now you would try a field goal. In 2027 you're not going to try a field goal or go for a touchdown. Scoring will decrease then.
Am I missing something ?

What they are trying to do is force offenses and defenses to play more aggressively. A shorter field means overall, defenses will have less yards to prevent touchdowns. From the perspective of an entire season this means less two and three high shell coverages that stifle big, long passing plays because the clsoer to the end zone the less effective that type of defense is.

On offense, by shrinking the effective field goal range, you ensure they keep pushing the ball down the field for longer. Right now, 3 first downs (if you start on the 40 or so) gets you in long field goal range. Offensives (again from a entire season perspective) get more conservative as they get into field goal range because points on drive is a big thing from a coaching perspective.

This is why the league is talking about it in terms of "entertainment" value and is not promising a % increase in scoring (we could very well see more TDs, less field goals and a slight decline in overall scoring).  To me, no brainer. It should work (again on the totality of a season, year over year).

Waffler

One thing that has been true since the sport has been played.  Defenses adjust. Once the dust settles I think all these changes will add nothing.
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wpg#1

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 01:53:06 PMWhat they are trying to do is force offenses and defenses to play more aggressively. A shorter field means overall, defenses will have less yards to prevent touchdowns. From the perspective of an entire season this means less two and three high shell coverages that stifle big, long passing plays because the clsoer to the end zone the less effective that type of defense is.

On offense, by shrinking the effective field goal range, you ensure they keep pushing the ball down the field for longer. Right now, 3 first downs (if you start on the 40 or so) gets you in long field goal range. Offensives (again from a entire season perspective) get more conservative as they get into field goal range because points on drive is a big thing from a coaching perspective.

This is why the league is talking about it in terms of "entertainment" value and is not promising a % increase in scoring (we could very well see more TDs, less field goals and a slight decline in overall scoring).  To me, no brainer. It should work (again on the totality of a season, year over year).
Well, 3rd and 10 is still 3rd and 10 regardless how short the field is. I see less field goals, and no better chance at scoring touchdowns. I don't see these changes as making the game more exciting. So I will be out if they go ahead.
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bomber beetle

It will be interesting to see if there will be any associated rule changes.
Will kickoff placement and points of scrimmage change to suit a shorter field? Possibly.
Any new rules regarding the above may impact the number of field goals as well. Technically, getting to field goal range is only five yards longer than it is now when a team is driving from its own end of the field.

Additionally, without the concern of a return on a missed field goal, will that increase attempts of longer field goals?

wpg#1

Quote from: bomber beetle on Today at 06:06:18 PMTechnically, getting to field goal range is only five yards longer than it is now when a team is driving from its own end of the field.

Additionally, without the concern of a return on a missed field goal, will that increase attempts of longer field goals?

You're forgetting the goal posts at the back of the endzone. field goal range would change by 20 yards, since the endzones are changed to 20 yards and goalposts at the back of the endzone.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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End zones will be 15 yards and the hold length adds 7. So it's the LOS +22 yards to calculate field goal length in the CFL in 2027 (the NFL is +17).

wpg#1

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 06:45:54 PMEnd zones will be 15 yards and the hold length adds 7. So it's the LOS +22 yards to calculate field goal length in the CFL in 2027 (the NFL is +17).
Regardless what the endzone depth is, there's less chance you're going for a field goal because the goalpost is at the back of the endzone, and it in no way makes it easier to score a touchdown. So, no greater amounts of touchdowns, and less field goals means less scoring altogether. It's not like a shorter field, and shorter endzone will promote more scoring or make the game more exciting.
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bomb squad

Quote from: bomber beetle on Today at 06:06:18 PMIt will be interesting to see if there will be any associated rule changes.
Will kickoff placement and points of scrimmage change to suit a shorter field? Possibly.
Any new rules regarding the above may impact the number of field goals as well. Technically, getting to field goal range is only five yards longer than it is now when a team is driving from its own end of the field.

Additionally, without the concern of a return on a missed field goal, will that increase attempts of longer field goals?


5 yards. Interesting. I believe that was the one of the reasons given for shortening the field. Ie;so that the difference in how far you needed to move the ball to get into field goal range wasn't so pronounced.

bomb squad

Quote from: wpg#1 on Today at 06:36:26 PMYou're forgetting the goal posts at the back of the endzone. field goal range would change by 20 yards, since the endzones are changed to 20 yards and goalposts at the back of the endzone.

He didn't forget.

bomber beetle

Quote from: wpg#1 on Today at 06:36:26 PMYou're forgetting the goal posts at the back of the endzone. field goal range would change by 20 yards, since the endzones are changed to 20 yards and goalposts at the back of the endzone.

The new end zones will be 15 yards deep.

With a 100 yard field, a drive for a field goal, starting in a team's own side of the field will be 10 yards closer to the opponent's goaline.
So that team will need to drive the ball 10 yards less to kick a field goal that is 15 yards further away.
That equates to 5 more yards to move the ball to get into range.
If my calculation is wrong...someone please correct me!