New rules / commissioner's statements

[theaardvark]

The CFL had absolutely no reason to consider going to a 100-yard field, either. And yet, here we are.

Cleaning up the game was a reason for the 100 yd field.  Making the field actually fit every stadium made sense.  Moving the goalposts had a reason. 

Changing the downs, ratio, or any other "Americanization" makes no sense.  Has no reason.

I'm sorry, but I just can't get on board with thinking the 100 yard field and goalposts move has anything to do with moving to 4 downs.

[blue_gold_84]

Cleaning up the game was a reason for the 100 yd field.  Making the field actually fit every stadium made sense.  Moving the goalposts had a reason. 

Changing the downs, ratio, or any other "Americanization" makes no sense.  Has no reason.

I'm sorry, but I just can't get on board with thinking the 100 yard field and goalposts move has anything to do with moving to 4 downs.

The field dimensions relative to stadium fitment would've been addressed by simply reducing the depth of the endzones while retaining the standard 110-yard field length. You've yet to explain how these changes clean up the game since they were announced two months ago, but you continue to repeat the same tired narrative.

Respectfully, your opinions on this topic are immaterial. You make claims without basis and then run away when pressed for clarification.

[bomber beetle]

The old size is also greater than the 132 minimum. I don't think you're making any point at all.

CFL field lengths:
2027: 130 yds < 132 yards
2025: 150 yds > 132 yards

[blue_or_die]

Valour FC folding has absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of soccer in Canada. Did the Jets move to Phoenix because hockey wasn't popular in Canada at the time?

The Jets moved to Phoenix because that's the direction the NHL was going at the time.

Valour folded because they consistently lost a million dollars a year. If soccer was so big here, people would still come regardless if the product wasn't properly invested in.

[bomber beetle]

This will come in handy when the new changes lead to the demise of the CFL, and cities that built new stadiums in the past 20 years primarily for the CFL (Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton, and Ottawa), will be desperate to either apply for an MLS franchise.

The demise is happening right now.
The new changes will either lead to better times, or it will die anyway.
Let's keep in mind that the Bombers and Riders voted for this, not because these two teams need change but they do need a league to play in.

Regardless of what happens to the CFL, I would love to see an MLS team in Winnipeg.
However, with the most recent expansion fee of $500 million, not likely at all.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

The demise is happening right now.
The new changes will either lead to better times, or it will die anyway.
Let's keep in mind that the Bombers and Riders voted for this, not because these two teams need change but they do need a league to play in.

Regardless of what happens to the CFL, I would love to see an MLS team in Winnipeg.
However, with the most recent expansion fee of $500 million, not likely at all.

The CFL isn't dying, I suspect league attendance will go up in multiple cities next season with improved teams and star power in BC, Cgy, Edm, Sask and hopefully Mtl.  The money grubbers in T.O. will continue to track the bottom line and whine without lifting a finger to improve game attendance.

[dd]

The field dimensions relative to stadium fitment would've been addressed by simply reducing the depth of the endzones while retaining the standard 110-yard field length. You've yet to explain how these changes clean up the game since they were announced two months ago, but you continue to repeat the same tired narrative.

Respectfully, your opinions on this topic are immaterial. You make claims without basis and then run away when pressed for clarification.

And this surprises you??

[jets4life]

The Jets moved to Phoenix because that's the direction the NHL was going at the time.

Valour folded because they consistently lost a million dollars a year. If soccer was so big here, people would still come regardless if the product wasn't properly invested in.

If what you are saying was true, the AHL Moose would have sold out every game they played considering the price was a fraction of the Jets.

Believe it or not, the quality of the league matters a lot. How many people would go to games if the Jets left, and we replaced them with an ECHL team?

If Winnipeg was awarded an MLS team, it would probably kill off the Bombers, considering how popular soccer has become.

[Tecno]

The demise is happening right now.
The new changes will either lead to better times, or it will die anyway.

It literally won't.  People said it would die in the 80s.  Then the 90s.  Then the 00's.  Then the 10's.  Now the 20's.  It's always "die die die", but yet here we are.  I put a big post about this in the other thread months back regarding my local club, which had the same doomsayers.  They always turn out wrong!

Even if tickets sales cratered 25% there's a ton of stuff the CFL could do to stay alive.  You know, like "adjusting".  Humans have this great ability to adapt to new circumstances.  You could slash the 2 caps by 25%, or jack concession prices 50%, or a myriad of things to offset ticket sales.  Not even saying it will come to that (it won't), just trying to illustrate that all other things don't have to remain equal.

I was just at an absolutely packed (even the top of the 200-level East side had a butt in every seat!) 112th GC, in one of the biggest stadiums in the CFL, in a city that just sold out 14 straight home games.  Chillax, the CFL is doing just fine.

[Tecno]

Cleaning up the game was a reason for the 100 yd field.

What does this even mean?  Stick to the talking points handed to you by Johnston.  You're not good at winging it.

[Tecno]

https://leaderpost.com/sports/davis-fear-not-football-fans-canadian-game-has-no-reason-to-consider-four-downs

This might be one of the dumbest articles yet.  Another paid shill for Johnston.  I could dissect yet another treatise, but why bother.  Everyone can now spot the bunk.  It's just more of the Johnston talking points regurgitation and the bullying "you're stupid dinosaurs" post-modernist tripe.

Tiresome.  Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver, Darrell Davis.

[bomber beetle]

It literally won't.  People said it would die in the 80s.  Then the 90s.  Then the 00's.  Then the 10's.  Now the 20's.  It's always "die die die", but yet here we are.  I put a big post about this in the other thread months back regarding my local club, which had the same doomsayers.  They always turn out wrong!

Even if tickets sales cratered 25% there's a ton of stuff the CFL could do to stay alive.  You know, like "adjusting".  Humans have this great ability to adapt to new circumstances.  You could slash the 2 caps by 25%, or jack concession prices 50%, or a myriad of things to offset ticket sales.  Not even saying it will come to that (it won't), just trying to illustrate that all other things don't have to remain equal.

I was just at an absolutely packed (even the top of the 200-level East side had a butt in every seat!) 112th GC, in one of the biggest stadiums in the CFL, in a city that just sold out 14 straight home games.  Chillax, the CFL is doing just fine.

Some think that it is 'change or die'.
Others think it will be 'change and die'.
There seem to be doomsayers on both sides of the argument.

[blue_gold_84]

The new changes will either lead to better times, or it will die anyway.

Oh, that's a relief. At least the powers that be are taking this existential threat seriously by addressing real issues.

And this surprises you??

[blue_or_die]

If what you are saying was true, the AHL Moose would have sold out every game they played considering the price was a fraction of the Jets.

Believe it or not, the quality of the league matters a lot. How many people would go to games if the Jets left, and we replaced them with an ECHL team?

If Winnipeg was awarded an MLS team, it would probably kill off the Bombers, considering how popular soccer has become.

Complete nonsense lol

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Insight from the original Valour FC manager Rob Gale on why the team failed, sounds like the Bombers under-financed their operation.  Would that make it Wade's responsibility?