O'Shea Granted permission to speak with Argos - and is staying with the Bombers

Started by Ridermania, November 10, 2025, 04:57:50 PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

#150
Quote from: tlf on November 14, 2025, 04:00:13 PMI say he stays.  When you see MOS applauding the fans for making the other team take a time count violation and how much he loves the noise of the fans here, you won't get that environment in TO.  That's a big plus for him here.

I haven't heard a peep about Walters.  Would a combo GM/Coach options be available to him here? Would MOS be negotiating for that possibly?  Until he signs, these are all just conversations and nothing more.

Walters usually holds an end of season press conference to summarize the year, maybe he's holding off until next week to wrap in the Grey Cup.  Anyone know if he is involved in planning any of the GC activities and logistics or is that all done at Wade's level?

The Zipp

maybe they will turf walters and make MOS the HC and GM to keep him. 


Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on November 14, 2025, 06:17:12 PMmaybe they will turf walters and make MOS the HC and GM to keep him. 



I don't see that happening and don't think it's a wise decision in any case.
One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

#153
Quote from: Jesse on November 14, 2025, 05:30:11 PMI'm not sure what your slight is on Jeff Hamilton. I source him because he's the president of the football writers of Canada and does a weekly article as well as a podcast on the happenings around the CFL. He's the most plugged in guy that fans have access to. He's specifically covered the Bombers for MOS's whole tenure.

Regardless, while no one know what MOS's motivations are when it comes to what his future choices are, the specific scenario you talked about doesn't make sense to me. Just given the control that MOS has within the Winnipeg organization and the multitude of voices within the Toronto organization. Dinwiddie left for a reason, afterall.

I tend to agree with blue_or_die that if he were to leave, it would probably be more of an emotional decision that because of any degree of control or lack thereof. I feel very confident that there's nothing Toronto could offer in that respect that he doesn't already have.

If all that is true then Kyle Walters is essentially O'Shea's admin assistant. I don't think that's reality. Who built the team O'Shea molded into the core we have? That would be Kyle Walters. He almost certainly has a voice at the table and would be very correct to have a more unemotional, analytical view of the team this year, and it would not be shocking if his take was that we weren't very good. I have no slight on Jeff Hamilton it's just a dumb argument to make. Sports reporters don't usually write articles about how decisions are made within organizations and the balance of power between executives, do they? Would the Bombers really tell him anyway? No. There's only a handful of people that would know these things and they're the three men involved and their close confidants.

Throw Long Bannatyne

O'Shea was at the CFL Awards Ceremony last night sitting with his wife, haven't heard if anyone attempted to ask him any questions about his status.

blue_or_die

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 14, 2025, 06:26:50 PMI don't see that happening and don't think it's a wise decision in any case.

Agree. I have respect for all 3 of the Madia Men but IMO this is Kyle Walters' team.

If Osh moves on I most definitely want to see him have a crack with a new head coach and staff and philosophy since he was extremely successful (like, at an historical level) his first round with MOS.

My hot take is that I don't think MOS would be a very good GM. He's a player's coach who can build a superb and winning locker room and culture but like I alluded to in my earlier post, I think he's a pure emotion and vibes guy. That's great for coaching (well, most of the time..) but not for the guy behind the big desk handing out contracts.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 14, 2025, 08:17:00 PMAgree. I have respect for all 3 of the Madia Men but IMO this is Kyle Walters' team.

If Osh moves on I most definitely want to see him have a crack with a new head coach and staff and philosophy since he was extremely successful (like, at an historical level) his first round with MOS.

My hot take is that I don't think MOS would be a very good GM. He's a player's coach who can build a superb and winning locker room and culture but like I alluded to in my earlier post, I think he's a pure emotion and vibes guy. That's great for coaching (well, most of the time..) but not for the guy behind the big desk handing out contracts.

Seems to me in the past he's said he had no interest in the GM job, negotiating contracts and such.  I don't think he has the personality type to have a lot of football contacts other than the people he's worked with before, not set out to be a schmoozer.

The Zipp

maybe Kyle has a bad reputation as a GM, maybe it's well known that MOS does all the work...that statement is just as speculative as many others in this thread. 

i suspect by next week at this time we will know whether MOS is staying or going and either way it will be whatever he wants, he holds the cards, the only thing that could derail things is if he leaves the teams hanging for an inordinate amount of time.

The Zipp

#158
edit the above. 

we know now he is staying with the Bombers

from bombers twitter:

Mike O'Shea will return as head coach in 2026. More details to follow.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#159
Quote from: The Zipp on November 14, 2025, 09:23:43 PMedit the above. 

we know now he is staying as head coach

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have announced that Mike O'Shea will be back as the team's head coach in 2026.

https://3downnation.com/2025/11/14/official-mike-oshea-to-return-as-winnipeg-blue-bombers-head-coach-in-2026/

Jesse

My wife is amazing!

tlf

Wade Miller just announced on CJOB Kyle Walters will also be back.  Less exciting but glad Osh is back! I assume the same term but he didn't say.

Blue In BC

Quote from: dd on November 13, 2025, 04:11:04 PMThis is what I ve been expecting. As I said before, it's a done deal my friends, done deal

Thank you for your participation in this thread. Show yourself out now. The door is two steps to the left. He's staying :)
One game at a time.

markf

Deep breath people!

Now we can celebrate this

" WINNIPEG — Trey Vaval's special skills have been recognized as such.

The first-year player has been named the game's Most Outstanding Special Teams Player after collecting a league-high four returns for touchdowns, while accumulating 11 total big plays.

Vaval double dipped on the evening, also being named the league's Most Outstanding Rookie."

What a find he is. My favourite player this season.


Pigskin

Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.