Retiring QB's?

Started by Blue In BC, November 09, 2025, 01:35:36 PM

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Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 26, 2025, 11:51:45 AMSigh.....Harris/Mayer/Stevens is one of the deepest QB rosters in the league, but don't let facts get in the way of a narrative.  And the #1 team winning the GC isn't "super lucky".  Finishing first in the division because of a gust of wind in Montreal is "super lucky", except that team couldn't get the job done.

This is a pretty unhinged take. There's a considerable drop-off after Harris which you weirdly ignore.

Maier has the tools to be a QB1 but he's yet to cement himself in that role even with the number of opportunities he's had to do so. He also had a pretty forgettable 2025 season when he did play despite being on a pretty stacked team offensively. I doubt the Riders would be comfortable with him starting in 2026 should Harris retire.

Stevens is a depth piece/jumbo package pivot at best. Those aren't hard to find.

Maybe read @Tecno's post again.
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Quote from: Tecno on November 26, 2025, 07:46:45 AMTrevor will be over 40 next season.  He's not going to last the season -- they got super lucky once, won't happen again.
They know this, call plays that protect him and pay the oline. That's about as smart as is possible. I wish we did the same.

It is somewhat luck to have any QB play the whole season though. You never know when an injury could happen. Zach twice had ill timed injuries, once in the cup and once in the west final.  Alexander was this year. Kelly broke his leg two years ago.
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Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 26, 2025, 11:51:45 AMSigh.....Harris/Mayer/Stevens is one of the deepest QB rosters in the league, but don't let facts get in the way of a narrative.  And the #1 team winning the GC isn't "super lucky".  Finishing first in the division because of a gust of wind in Montreal is "super lucky", except that team couldn't get the job done.

I don't think Techno ever said they were super lucky to win the Grey Cup, he was talking specifically about Trevor Harris, at 40 years old, staying mostly healthy for the year. Especially after missing significant time in recent seasons.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 26, 2025, 01:44:25 PMThis is a pretty unhinged take. There's a considerable drop-off after Harris which you weirdly ignore.

Maier has the tools to be a QB1 but he's yet to cement himself in that role even with the number of opportunities he's had to do so. He also had a pretty forgettable 2025 season when he did play despite being on a pretty stacked team offensively. I doubt the Riders would be comfortable with him starting in 2026 should Harris retire.

Stevens is a depth piece/jumbo package pivot at best. Those aren't hard to find.

Maybe read @Tecno's post again.

Maier is a free agent, good as can be for a backup but hasn't established himself as a starter despite being handed the throne in Calgary.

Tecno

Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 26, 2025, 11:51:45 AMSigh.....Harris/Mayer/Stevens is one of the deepest QB rosters in the league, but don't let facts get in the way of a narrative.

Maier won't even get you .333 if he's forced into #1.  I'd rather have Arbuckle, Powell, Crum, or a million other guys.  Maier was so bad he almost cost Dickenson The Greater his job for sticking with him for so long.  He's basically the next Franklin.

I'd rather start Strev with a broken knee and a brace, he'll still win you .500, warts and all.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 26, 2025, 05:09:12 PMMaier is a free agent, good as can be for a backup but hasn't established himself as a starter despite being handed the throne in Calgary.

I have zero faith Maier will get the job done in SSK if he couldn't even get the job done in CGY for many years when they still had a great team.

SSK O is a high-pressure high-speed high-accuracy short game that may be the worst thing you could possibly throw at Maier.  His main bugbear was always accuracy and decision making.

The absolute best thing that could happen to the West-not-wearing-green is for Trevor to retire and for SSK to get stuck with Maier.  They'd do better rehiring Cody -- and coming from me, that's saying something.
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