Retiring QB's?

[dd]

Walters messed up by extending Zach early. Zach wasn't really good in 24 either. Reality is he's 16-14 with 34 td passes and 31 ints over the past two seasons. That's not worth 600k.

Agree. For a team that doesn't like to overpay their players ie Ford, Dobson, Lawler, we are really overpaying Collaros, so much so, that the $150k spent on him could have been used pay the all stars we let go last year penny pinching

[Jesse]

Walters messed up by extending Zach early. Zach wasn't really good in 24 either. Reality is he's 16-14 with 34 td passes and 31 ints over the past two seasons. That's not worth 600k.

Or he saved himself from a tough negotiation by re-upping him before the salary cap went up.

[Tecno]

I'm all for improving our OL but it's not at any cost kind of issue IMO.

But it's clear that, as long as you have a good QB and RB, the OL is literally everything.  Look at SSK.  No matter what people say, that's a crap REC corps.  Only looks good because Trevor is there and they have a top OL and they do all-short.

Our best years were with the best OL.  You need 4 top-15 guys, and maybe one higher-mid tier straggler for budget reasons.  Hopefully one or two are ELC DP or scout finds, but if not you need to pony up in FA.

I would take SSK's approach and skimp big time on REC and put all that money into OL.  Maybe have 1 REC over $200k, like Demski.

All of the teams with crazy expensive RECs did bupkis this season when it comes to getting to the cup.  Gino, Kenny, Schoen, White, McInnis, Begelton, Daniels, Coxie, Henry.  I'm excluding most NATs as their pay isn't "real" for their talent level, except maybe Demski & McInnis.

Top teams seem to be getting much better DLs and it needs to be combatted with top OL if you want to excel.  Just look at SSK & MTL.  Next season we need to hold off that SSK & CGY DL so Zach has time to play his everywhere-on-the-field game.

[bunker]

That plus a better OC, and at least one more thicker receiver that can block.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

But it's clear that, as long as you have a good QB and RB, the OL is literally everything.  Look at SSK.  No matter what people say, that's a crap REC corps.  Only looks good because Trevor is there and they have a top OL and they do all-short.

Our best years were with the best OL.  You need 4 top-15 guys, and maybe one higher-mid tier straggler for budget reasons.  Hopefully one or two are ELC DP or scout finds, but if not you need to pony up in FA.

I would take SSK's approach and skimp big time on REC and put all that money into OL.  Maybe have 1 REC over $200k, like Demski.

All of the teams with crazy expensive RECs did bupkis this season when it comes to getting to the cup.  Gino, Kenny, Schoen, White, McInnis, Begelton, Daniels, Coxie, Henry.  I'm excluding most NATs as their pay isn't "real" for their talent level, except maybe Demski & McInnis.

Top teams seem to be getting much better DLs and it needs to be combatted with top OL if you want to excel.  Just look at SSK & MTL.  Next season we need to hold off that SSK & CGY DL so Zach has time to play his everywhere-on-the-field game.

Hard to agree with much you're saying, sounds like you want to replace the entire O-line but I'd bet my life they intend to return Randolph, Vanterpool, Wallace, Neufeld and Stanley if he wants to continue playing. Lofton may be the odd man out, but not sure that is even the case as his play has been adequate since he returned from Sask. 

As for the Rider receivers they've done a great job of building a solid unit in the last few years especially their Natl. talent, playing 3 has allows them to start 4 Imports on their O-line which is almost unheard of.  Sterns couldn't make their roster last year and the guy who bumped him Shawn Bane is now a backup and unlikely to play in the GC, same goes for Natl. rec. Ajou Ajou. KeeSean Johnson is the CFL's 4th ranked receiver in yds. gained and Dohnte Meyers is 7th, lucky they no longer have #2 Justin McInnis who they drafted and lost to BC in FA. 

Other receivers.

EMILUS
SCHAFFER-BAKER
Robustelli
NIELD
Duncan-Busby
PICTON

Can't re-sign them all. The shoe is finally on the other foot, if I was Walters I wouldn't roll the dice drafting any Natl. receivers next year, I'd pickup a proven Natl. receiver or 2 from other teams stuck behind starters, at most they need 2.

[Tecno]

That plus a better OC, and at least one more thicker receiver that can block.

I dunno, the OC looked pretty darn good in the 3rd Q in the ESF.  He had a decent plan to beat MTL.  I was actually quite surprised.  If only our D could have held Alexander a little bit more...