Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Edmonton, October 11, 2025

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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on October 12, 2025, 07:11:44 PMThe play I remember, he was holding the player's legs while Jones finished him off above...

I don't remember seeing that but it's still a marginal result for an entire game. Do you know when in the game that happened?
One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

On that play the announcer inadvertently said it was Thomas and then on replay it was Woods.

Jake Thomas gets washed every running play he's in basically because if he didn't he'd have a tackle.

The other tackles that played last night? Seven tackles combined.

Jake? Zero. For the fourth straight game.

The results are the results.

dd

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 09:56:10 PMOn that play the announcer inadvertently said it was Thomas and then on replay it was Woods.

Jake Thomas gets washed every running play he's in basically because if he didn't he'd have a tackle.

The other tackles that played last night? Seven tackles combined.

Jake? Zero. For the fourth straight game.

The results are the results.
Ya, but stats like tackles and sacks are so misleading. He's our 'glue' guy, we need more 'glue' guys on our team. What a bunch of malarkee!! If a reciever went 4 games without a catch, would he play the next game?? Would we be praising him for not making plays by suggesting he's a 'good blocker', or he was running the decoy routes?? I think not. In pro sports, you either produce or you're replaced, except beloved jakie, the guy with a 10 second forty time. keep playing him. What a joke.

Pete

Our defence has been decent, my only big concern is the lack of physicality. Other teams make our receivers and qb pay, we seem to lay back and react to plays

( With the exception of special teams)
We aren't generating turnovers nearly enough.

J5V

Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2025, 05:55:56 PMFord going for Fords knee's. Didn't think Ford was that kind of player.
Brady? Yes, neither did I, and BO's response was to pop up, pat Ford on the helmet, and move on to the next play. BO is a class act. I can't say the same about Tyrell and maybe there's one more reason he's not a Bomber any longer.
Go Bombers!

Blue In BC

Quote from: dd on October 12, 2025, 10:11:42 PMYa, but stats like tackles and sacks are so misleading. He's our 'glue' guy, we need more 'glue' guys on our team. What a bunch of malarkee!! If a reciever went 4 games without a catch, would he play the next game?? Would we be praising him for not making plays by suggesting he's a 'good blocker', or he was running the decoy routes?? I think not. In pro sports, you either produce or you're replaced, except beloved jakie, the guy with a 10 second forty time. keep playing him. What a joke.

Better check out Mitchell's stats. Stats are reality.

Why do we need another glue guy with Jefferson, Vaughters, Wilson, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi and Parker already on the roster?
One game at a time.

dd

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 13, 2025, 12:16:20 AMBetter check out Mitchell's stats. Stats are reality.

Why do we need another glue guy with Jefferson, Vaughters, Wilson, Holm, Nichols, Kramdi and Parker already on the roster?
We don't need any marginal players being our 'glue' guys. My entire post was written in extreme sarcasm.

barbk

Quote from: gordo on October 12, 2025, 02:56:58 PM"Jake is a key part of our defense and a character guy that's been around so long he's like another coach out there. It's not about stats. He consistently fills the J-gap and does an outstanding job of that.  Most people don't understand this and are too quick to be critical and point at stats that we don't consider important."
Jake Thomas reminds me of Sam Hurl (Canadian Linebacker) from 2015 to 2017 we stuck him in the middle to fill the gaps and was a favorite of O'Shea... just saying

dd

Quote from: barbk on October 13, 2025, 01:19:48 AMJake Thomas reminds me of Sam Hurl (Canadian Linebacker) from 2015 to 2017 we stuck him in the middle to fill the gaps and was a favorite of O'Shea... just saying
He is exactly that and both were useless football players

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 04:26:52 PMOn Rankin's long run O'Shea said that they lost contain on the left side, this is because the DE either cut in too early or the SAM was out of position covering a receiver.  Griffin might have made the difference, too often Holm or Nichols are tasked with making the tackles a LB should be making.

The DE crashed into the pocket as everyone expected a gut run.  He guessed wrong.  Then he got sealed in.  Probably Vaughters, but I haven't double checked.  It's classic chess: our DC and players expected one thing and EDM did exactly the opposite.

Might have cost us the game.  As for the LBers/DBs, it was more a flattening of the D to stop the run that made it somewhat easy once Rankin busted the 1 level closer to the LoS.  Again, it's the correct scheme when stopping a sneak/gut run.

Let's not get to down on our team for this.  EDM took a huge gamble on that one, and they knew it.  Could have easily been stuffed by our DE and we probably win easily with all the concomitant momo and morale.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Waffler on October 12, 2025, 03:00:16 PMFor anyone that wants to really look, his under throws and interceptions tell the story of a QB's arm in serious decline. His scrambling ability, once the league's best at buying time, is gone. What surprises me is how many fans are not objective and think somehow he can play like last week all the time. The evidence suggests otherwise.

Uh, he scrambled many times in that game and basically every time escaped enough to try to find someone open or pull a Matt Nichols (throwaway).  I think on his scrambles (there were a ton because of crazy pressure) he was sacked only a couple of times?

Let's not forget the OL here: they let him down big time.  We had no answer for their 4, let alone their constant blitz.  Now THAT was a team studying all week and tailoring their attack to the opponent!
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:34:08 PMBomber defence did hold Fajardo to 142 yards passing @ about 50%. Only 1 big reception for 37 yards. It was the run game that we had difficulty with and we knew we had to take away Rankin and we didn't.

Ya, pretty astounding considering TSN started the whole 1Q yapping about Cody's league-best completion %.  LOL.

We actually did very good forcing Cody into the dink & dunk.  I'm sure they dialed up more deep shots but Cody saw them always well covered and didn't bother.

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2025, 02:34:08 PMSometimes those odd plays just don't go your way. I'm not saying we played extremely well in any of the 3 aspects. We didn't control the LOS on either side of the ball.

Too true.  But in the past we'd be strong enough to overcome a couple of Murphy's laws.  By my count EDM had 2-3 freak things go their way, we had 1.  And that was exactly the difference in the final score.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: markf on October 12, 2025, 01:49:23 PMSomebody said Corcoran was open for a first down on the final Zach long pass interception, did anyone see that?

The final Zach pass or the final one that was INTed?  If the latter (which is what it sounds like) can you tell me when it occurred?  I'm having trouble finding it.

I can tell you that on the final 3rd down pass by Zach no one was really open.  There was 1 guy at the top of the screen that could have done a turn-back route to come back for the ball at the sticks.  I'd say 90% they could get that easily.  But Zach saw Sterns 1-on-1 with no help over the top and he's said a zillion times when he sees this setup he'll take the shot.  And he did.  Funny thing is all night he's underthrowing and this one time he throws early enough and far enough that it's a big overthrow (with out-bodied impeding by the DB and bad ball placement inside not outside by Zach).  It was a bad pass, Zach clearly wasn't dialed in all night.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2025, 12:43:31 PMOur defensive backs, especially the corners have to provide a ton of cushion because whatever elaborate route that's being run at them is more than likely two or three actions. That gets exhausting. And it's almost impossible to be aggressive as evidenced by our interceptions from the corner spots over 16 games. They are simply need to play too far back and too safely to be much of a threat.

Ya, I'm not disagreeing.  But then it goes back to my "MOS/Younger/Hall/KW aren't dumb" point.  All of this was clearly obvious in '24, and through all of FA, and even all this season so far... So why is our braintrust doing this?  To punish us fans??  Because they hate us??  Because they paid Lemon to bet against them??  (This is a joke, mods.)

No, clearly there is method to the madness.  Clearly they are working towards some scheme / goal they feel is superior and/or matches what they are trying to do with the SMS.  The only alternative is they are all dumb.

And if you're fair and objective, and look at the HAM & EDM games, maybe it's working.  They did limit Kenny to basically nothing.  Neither team had explosions against us, minus the freak Rankin run (and I'd add the Cody run too).

The theory was that they had this wacky no-pressure scheme and they just hadn't gotten the players to perfect it yet.  Now that it's late in the season you'd think they'd finally have it mastered.  And maybe they do.  And maybe that's why we held the HAM & EDM air attack to basically nothing but dink & dunk.

So maybe we're the ones who are wrong and the madness is bearing fruit.  The only problem now is stopping the inevitable running the other teams will do to try to counter it.  Certainly SSK is going to try to rip us a new one on the ground next game...

As many have said, the real reason we lost the EDM game is we couldn't generate O when we needed to.  So put the blame where it lies: the O.  And even then we likely win if those freak plays hadn't occurred, which you can't blame on any scheme.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 05:57:26 PMSaw Willie was wearing a full arm wrap in pink, this is the first indication I've ever seen of him dealing with an undisclosed injury. Throughout his career he's remained remarkably healthy.

If it was since the start of the game, it could be he got dinged vs HAM.  He was getting a lot more involved in piles and tackles and chases in that game then I've seen all year.  Willie picks when he turns it on, and thus takes more injury risk.  I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happened.
Never go full Johnston!