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Tecno

Quote from: J5V on October 11, 2025, 05:50:47 PMFixed it for you and maybe now we understand the true influence Andrew Harris has had on A.J.'s Omelette.  ;)

Ouch!  Burn!

(I still like AH, so I won't agree, but A+ for creativity!)
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: BBRT on October 11, 2025, 05:22:55 PMYour prejudiced is really showing here. I am not a Rider Fan by any stretch but they are in fact the best team in the West and maybe overall. If you look at their talent levels across the board it is easy to understand why they are at the least, the best in the West. Whether that puts them in the Peg for the cup is yet to be seen. But give them their dues. They have a lot of talent across the board and have a good coach. Their recruiting in 2025 was far superior to what the Bombers accomplished.

None of what you said is false, except for the "best team overall".  They rely 100% on their D.  Their O is 100% a "game manager".  They have 1 trick they have perfected to 110%: the dink & dunk.  They are not "explosive" in any way.  They have 1 good REC: Johnson, and he's not even Schoen/Demski-level.

I think they lucked into so many wins this season.  They often got teams when they were weaker.  They didn't have to play the best teams 3 times like we did.

I think SSK gets smoked in the post-season, whether by Rourke or VAJ or whoever (even us).  If they make the cup, and Alexander is healthy, him & Ento will rip them a new one.

But they did have great FA, did build maybe the best D, do have a strong aggressive HC, and have an OC that perfected what he was given.  In that sense they outdid WFC in every regard.  So yes, hat tip to them.  We'll just have to see if that big D and oversized-wrestler RB can win the big one for them.  Just like we bet it all on the "no pressure" D, they bet it all on their strengths.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 11, 2025, 04:18:41 PMTurnovers are reviewed automatically. This was potentially a turnover on downs so the " spot " would have been a necessary evaluation.

No, the spot would only be auto-reviewed if command noticed something egregious.  Even in a turnover situation they aren't going to strictly examine every little thing.

Thus why it took the challenge to get it looked at.
Never go full Johnston!

J5V

Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:56:09 AMAs for my suggestion, yes it would work because it is external padding that acts as crumple zones to slow the impact / spread it out.
There has to be plenty of smart people that have already gone down this road. I think player safety just has to get serious about it and insist on something more being done. Building crumple zones into vehicles and outfitting them with airbags has saved countless lives and numerous serious injuries. I'm sure we can spare many an athlete's brain from future harm by insisting something more be done. Maybe start a petition? Appeal to the commissioner? 
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Tecno on October 12, 2025, 02:50:17 AMYa, but that would trigger almost never.  Would have to work some other way.  And any DQ also has to come with a big 25Y penalty.  It has to hurt both the player AND the team in that game at that moment, so that teams start self-policing.


Infractions should accumulate through the season, knock a QB out of a game once and you miss 2 games without pay, do it twice and your season is over.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 13, 2025, 02:08:54 AMInfractions should accumulate through the season, knock a QB out of a game once and you miss 2 games without pay, do it twice and your season is over.

It's not as simple as that. Many players including QB's are injured by fairly common tackles. Look at the injury to Arbuckle recently as an example. Landed badly and shoulder injured. Brady Oliveria injury in game one. Does the criteria change if that had been a QB running?

More often than not it's the landing backwards and not the hit per se that injures the QB or other player.

It's a grey line on what is late, dirty or excessive that may cause an injury.

I'm not against some improvements if they can identify what to do. Game suspensions are a quagmire of delays and challenges.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 13, 2025, 02:35:40 PMDoes the criteria change if that had been a QB running?

Yes, the CFL already created special rules for QB protection, even outside the pocket.  Their head & neck are protected everywhere now, not just in the pocket.  So making more rules specific to QB protection would not be unusual.
Never go full Johnston!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 13, 2025, 02:35:40 PMIt's not as simple as that. Many players including QB's are injured by fairly common tackles. Look at the injury to Arbuckle recently as an example. Landed badly and shoulder injured. Brady Oliveria injury in game one. Does the criteria change if that had been a QB running?

More often than not it's the landing backwards and not the hit per se that injures the QB or other player.

It's a grey line on what is late, dirty or excessive that may cause an injury.

I'm not against some improvements if they can identify what to do. Game suspensions are a quagmire of delays and challenges.

Sure it's a judgment call, some injuries are accidental, but some are not.  It's usually pretty obvious when a player attempts to destroy a QB by hitting them with full-force, it's up to the coaches to re-train the players.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 13, 2025, 11:05:30 PMSure it's a judgment call, some injuries are accidental, but some are not.  It's usually pretty obvious when a player attempts to destroy a QB by hitting them with full-force, it's up to the coaches to re-train the players.

There are only a few modifications to hitting a player with full force whether it's a QB or otherwise. You can't hit late, low or a receiver in a defenceless position. You can't body slam a player to the ground. You can't launch.

However a 250 -280 LB DL can deliver a significant legal blow that can cause injury to ribs or shoulders. Again, I use the recent example of Arbuckle getting injured.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: Tecno on October 13, 2025, 10:55:21 PMYes, the CFL already created special rules for QB protection, even outside the pocket.  Their head & neck are protected everywhere now, not just in the pocket.  So making more rules specific to QB protection would not be unusual.

Funny, just after I posted that, Command picked up a flag for a very rough hit on MTL's Alexander running in the flat...

Still figuring out the 2025 Command Center's memos and paradigm.
Never go full Johnston!