Playoff picture

Started by gobombersgo, September 28, 2025, 02:50:20 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Tecno

Quote from: gobombersgo on October 13, 2025, 01:03:17 AMI heard that if the Bombers are the visitors they would still be able to use their own locker room.

Ya, any other way would make zero sense.  And I can't see even the hated Riders trying to impose the visitor's locker room on us.

Of course, it's all wishes and dreams at this point.  Hard to see how we pull off a miracle to beat MTL with Alexander...  And first we have to make the crossover instead of being totally eliminated!  Another Murphy's Law + low NRG game next week and maybe we miss out completely.  Now THAT would blow up this whole organization...
Never go full Johnston!

RebusRankin

The Riders may rest guys Friday. We may come out like we did last home game. In other words, I can see us winning Friday and clinching. I could also see BC beating Edmonton making what we do moot. I do think a healthy Montreal on the road is a tough foe.

Blue In BC

#62
Quote from: RebusRankin on October 13, 2025, 01:37:27 PMThe Riders may rest guys Friday. We may come out like we did last home game. In other words, I can see us winning Friday and clinching. I could also see BC beating Edmonton making what we do moot. I do think a healthy Montreal on the road is a tough foe.

Both our last 2 games are at home.

Montreal lost the season series with Hamilton. Hamilton plays there last game before we play the Als. It appears the Als have to win out and the TiCats need to lose their last game for the Als to have a chance at finishing 1st.

In that sense, it's very probable that the Als may end up sitting many starters when they play us. Alexander hasn't played much lately due to injury so that may change the picture somewhat. However I expect several starts to not play and avoid injury.

However it does appear we'll be the crossover team and will play the Als in Montreal a week after we play them in our last regular season game at home. That's not the best scenario but it is what it is.


One game at a time.

The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 13, 2025, 03:11:28 PMBoth our last 2 games are at home.

Montreal lost the season series with Hamilton. Hamilton plays there last game before we play the Als. It appears the Als have to win out and the TiCats need to lose their last game for the Als to have a chance at finishing 1st.

In that sense, it's very probable that the Als may end up sitting many starters when they play us. Alexander hasn't played much lately due to injury so that may change the picture somewhat. However I expect several starts to not play and avoid injury.

However it does appear we'll be the crossover team and will play the Als in Montreal a week after we play them in our last regular season game at home. That's not the best scenario but it is what it is.




that last game might mean more to the Als than us.  we may have the cross over locked up and Al's could still be playing for first. 

lots to be settled

Blue In BC

#64
Quote from: The Zipp on October 13, 2025, 06:59:28 PMthat last game might mean more to the Als than us.  we may have the cross over locked up and Al's could still be playing for first. 

lots to be settled

Mathematically that it true but not probable. The Als and TiCats both play Ottawa again. The TiCats will be looking to beat down the Redblacks and ensuring a 1st place finish. That happens before they play us.

Redblacks are already in tryout mode and not likely to win another game in 2025.

The other issue is that the Als won't want to show anything new with an expectation of playing us in the ESF.  Whereas we may be the team fighting to win a playoff spot.
One game at a time.

Tecno

Quote from: The Zipp on October 13, 2025, 06:59:28 PMthat last game might mean more to the Als than us.  we may have the cross over locked up and Al's could still be playing for first. 

Ya, but TSN booth spent a lot of the 2nd half MTL game talking about how Maas has said he won't do the garbage-season rest-everybody thing.  And I don't think they did last year either?  I think they'll be full foot-on-gas regardless of standings.

That doesn't bode well for us if we need that final win.
Never go full Johnston!

Throw Long Bannatyne

#66
Quote from: Tecno on October 14, 2025, 10:10:44 AMYa, but TSN booth spent a lot of the 2nd half MTL game talking about how Maas has said he won't do the garbage-season rest-everybody thing.  And I don't think they did last year either?  I think they'll be full foot-on-gas regardless of standings.

That doesn't bode well for us if we need that final win.


Last year's final game was won with the help of the wind and Sergio's last second FG, Fajardo was their QB but they played a lot of their B-team and the Bombers still barely won 28-27. Throw Alexander in as their starter makes winning all the more difficult.

The Zipp

From DT:

Confirmed with the league that a win on Friday isn't enough to get the Bombers a playoff spot.  There's still the remote possibility of a 4 way tie at 9-9 that would see the Bombers finish 5th.

Bombers will need an Elks loss or tie or a calgary win or tie.

theaardvark

Quote from: The Zipp on October 14, 2025, 06:11:37 PMFrom DT:

Confirmed with the league that a win on Friday isn't enough to get the Bombers a playoff spot.  There's still the remote possibility of a 4 way tie at 9-9 that would see the Bombers finish 5th.

Bombers will need an Elks loss or tie or a calgary win or tie.

I thought that if we win, and EDM wins out, then we tie at 9-9, and we have the season series, so even in a 4 way tie, we get the crossover.  Is there some sort of "wins in the division" that comes before season series consideration?
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

dd

Calgary plays Toronto , there ain't gonna be no 4 way tie

Tecno

Quote from: The Zipp on October 14, 2025, 06:11:37 PMConfirmed with the league that a win on Friday isn't enough to get the Bombers a playoff spot.  There's still the remote possibility of a 4 way tie at 9-9 that would see the Bombers finish 5th.

I really don't see how that's possible given that we own the season series vs BC and EDM.  In a 4 way only CGY has the season series on us!

Or are they saying that if there's more than a 2-way tie they ignore season series and instead start going to points or div wins?  That would suck.  Our div wins this season are as pathetic as EDMs!!

Time to hit the tie-breaking rule-book...
Never go full Johnston!

Pete

#71
Quote from: Tecno on October 15, 2025, 12:51:27 AMI really don't see how that's possible given that we own the season series vs BC and EDM.  In a 4 way only CGY has the season series on us!

Or are they saying that if there's more than a 2-way tie they ignore season series and instead start going to points or div wins?  That would suck.  Our div wins this season are as pathetic as EDMs!!

Time to hit the tie-breaking rule-book...
in the calg/Edm?wpg series so far  wpg has only one win, edm has two, cal 4 so we'd be out ,
if bc is tied 'even we'd still lose as we have the lowest winning percentage in the games between the four teams ( to be tied edm has to win its last two games against bc/calg giving them 4 wins)

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on October 15, 2025, 01:41:30 AMin the calg/Edm?wpg series wpg has only one win, edm has two, cal 5
so we'd be out

0 and 5 against the top 2 teams in the West, should come as no surprise.

Tecno

Quote from: Pete on October 15, 2025, 01:41:30 AMin the calg/Edm?wpg series so far  wpg has only one win, edm has two, cal 4 so we'd be out ,

Ah, so like I suggested, individual "season series" don't matter when the tie is more than 2-way.  Ya, our divisional record is going to cream us if we get in a multi-way tie.

Losing to EDM last week was the stupidest thing we did this season.  What a disgrace.  Shameful.
Never go full Johnston!

blue_or_die

#74
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2025, 05:15:45 PMSave your money, it's pretty much the antithesis of the 2019 vibe, this team is headed in the opposite direction.

I'm as down as anyone right now after Saturday's game, but I'm not sure everyone remembers 2019 all that well. I think a lot of people (I'm guilty as well) kinda remember it either as the season where we won it all and broke the draught or where we were essentially total losers and then scrapped it out after squeaking into the playoffs to win 3 games in a row on the road.

The reality was more complicated (like everything in life). It ended up being a roller coaster of a season, which was not the expectation as we were coming off 3 consecutive years of playoffs finishing: WSF L @BC (2016); WSF L vEDM (2017) and WF L @CGY (2018) and were expecting the take the next step and get to the Grey Cup game. What actually materialized was a total rollercoaster with huge promise and tons of disappointment mixed in. We went

5-0
4-4
1-3

giving us a 10-7 record going into the last game. That record is fine, but look at the trend from the start to the middle to the end. Not good for a team looking to peak and break a 29 year draught.  It looked like we were about to regress from the previous years and certainly not take the next step.

This year was the emergence of Strev who came in multiple times for injured Matt Nichols with some ability (although not near starter level) plus astonishing athleticism and heart. Then we signed some injury prone wash up named Zach Collaros and decided to give him the start in our last game of the season at home against Calgary. I don't need to tell you what happened after that.

Guess my point is, even though I'm pretty worked up about the Edmonton game still, there is precedent to turn it on (as we have done this year, just not consistently) and get into the playoffs and then not look back.

Definitely the glass half full outlook but I do think it's more than just a hope and prayer at this point. We need Zach to be good Zach and not the version on Saturday who throws 5 yards too short or 5 yards too long and honestly, that might be enough to make the difference. Even though I don't think we are a super great team, I'm not blown away by Sask or anyone else. They all look - and are - very beatable. It's just up to us to pull ourselves together and play the way I know we can.
#Ride?