Ayers, Woods or Adams

Started by Blue In BC, September 24, 2025, 05:06:43 PM

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Who would you pick as more beneficial?

Ayers
5 (27.8%)
Adams
9 (50%)
Woods
10 (55.6%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: RebusRankin on September 25, 2025, 04:39:49 PMAyers should come off. Basically only plays teams. DTonOB has charted it and its minimal snaps on D, only in short yardage. MOS likes wasting Dis though. See Damian Jackson.

Damian Jackson was as involved in the offence as MCI has been, had a few passes thrown his way and may
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 25, 2025, 04:39:49 PMAyers should come off. Basically only plays teams. DTonOB has charted it and its minimal snaps on D, only in short yardage. MOS likes wasting Dis though. See Damian Jackson.

MCI isn't getting much more action than Jackson did, kind of disappointed he hasn't been integrated into the offence more than he has.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 25, 2025, 05:39:01 PMDamian Jackson was as involved in the offence as MCI has been, had a few passes thrown his way and may
MCI isn't getting much more action than Jackson did, kind of disappointed he hasn't been integrated into the offence more than he has.

No but at least he's a Canadian and not taking a spot for a DI. We're getting more votes in the poll now. Spread fairly evenly between the 3. OTOH, 12 to 4 for adding another DT instead of Ayers.



One game at a time.

RebusRankin

To clarify my point, I am fine with Canadians who only play teams. Its a waste of a DI spot though IMO.

Blueforlife

#18
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 25, 2025, 04:39:49 PMAyers should come off. Basically only plays teams. DTonOB has charted it and its minimal snaps on D, only in short yardage. MOS likes wasting Dis though. See Damian Jackson.
The two situations are not similar imo. I believe the club is grooming Ayers to be a ST demon that might rotate on D.  The criticism of Jackson was overstated, he could do a few things for the club which kept him on the field.  He helped us rebound, have a good year and success in the post season.  Wasn't a waste but wasn't a big impact.  Many players like Ayers don't need to be heros, just consistent.  Ayers as expected is on sounds like.  Woods as I wanted is coming on too.  I am curious what else we do with the roster but I'm happy thus far.

Blue In BC

#19
Well, well and well. Kornelson, Person and Artopoeus moved to PR and Woods added to AR according to CFL.CA.  We had room to add Woods without moving Person so I'm not quite sure what else is about to happen. Who fills the extra import spot on the bingo card? Maybe Parker can play?

We have room for another Canadian ( Hallett or Cobb ) or a 2nd global which would be Bailey. I'd guess Bailey as a DE replacing Person but they didn't move him from the PR today, ditto for Cobb. So does that mean Hallett off of IR is returning?

One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 25, 2025, 11:21:10 PMWell, well and well. Kornelson, Person and Artopoeus moved to PR and Woods added to AR according to CFL.CA.  We had room to add Woods without moving Person so I'm not quite sure what else is about to happen. Who fills the extra import spot on the bingo card? Maybe Parker can play?

We have room for another Canadian ( Hallett or Cobb ) or a 2nd global which would be Bailey. I'd guess Bailey as a DE replacing Person but they didn't move him from the PR today, ditto for Cobb. So does that mean Hallett off of IR is returning?


Cobb please

Throw Long Bannatyne

#21
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 25, 2025, 11:21:10 PMWell, well and well. Kornelson, Person and Artopoeus moved to PR and Woods added to AR according to CFL.CA.  We had room to add Woods without moving Person so I'm not quite sure what else is about to happen. Who fills the extra import spot on the bingo card? Maybe Parker can play?

We have room for another Canadian ( Hallett or Cobb ) or a 2nd global which would be Bailey. I'd guess Bailey as a DE replacing Person but they didn't move him from the PR today, ditto for Cobb. So does that mean Hallett off of IR is returning?



It would be great to see Bailey and Woods in the lineup with a fair amount of rotation, maybe they're finally receiving their allotted game time opportunities.  Not a lot of new players jumping off the page this season, everybody getting their chance but impacts have been minor.

RebusRankin

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 25, 2025, 11:16:27 PMThe two situations are not similar imo. I believe the club is grooming Ayers to be a ST demon that might rotate on D.  The criticism of Jackson was overstated, he could do a few things for the club which kept him on the field.  He helped us rebound, have a good year and success in the post season.  Wasn't a waste but wasn't a big impact.  Many players like Ayers don't need to be heros, just consistent.  Ayers as expected is on sounds like.  Woods as I wanted is coming on too.  I am curious what else we do with the roster but I'm happy thus far.

Ayers is an american taking up a DI spot. Outstanding Ster but no regular role on D. He's playing short yardage and DTonOB has discussed this before and he's playing 2-3 reps per game on D with no regular role. Woodby is a rookie and he's playing more of an actual role on D. Ayers last year actually did play some actual D reps so you have to ask why has he regressed in terms of actually getting reps on D in year 2?

Jackson is a great comparison. He played at most 10 reps on D and was used mainly as a blocker, something that an extra OL or a NI FB can do. He didn't do much on teams (no ST tackles). If anything he was a worse use of DI spot because Ayers at least is really good on teams. As for your comment about Jackson helping us rebound, he joined us in 2023, when we were coming of a 15-3 season with a close cup loss. We went 14-4 and had another close cup loss. So rebound from what?

Blue In BC

#23
We need to win tomorrow to stay ahead of the Lions. If the moves today result in a win, then all is good.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

#24
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 26, 2025, 02:16:52 AMAyers is an american taking up a DI spot. Outstanding Ster but no regular role on D. He's playing short yardage and DTonOB has discussed this before and he's playing 2-3 reps per game on D with no regular role. Woodby is a rookie and he's playing more of an actual role on D. Ayers last year actually did play some actual D reps so you have to ask why has he regressed in terms of actually getting reps on D in year 2?

Jackson is a great comparison. He played at most 10 reps on D and was used mainly as a blocker, something that an extra OL or a NI FB can do. He didn't do much on teams (no ST tackles). If anything he was a worse use of DI spot because Ayers at least is really good on teams. As for your comment about Jackson helping us rebound, he joined us in 2023, when we were coming of a 15-3 season with a close cup loss. We went 14-4 and had another close cup loss. So rebound from what?
Got my seasons mixed up, rebound was a comment from last year as we had a bad start.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I don't see the comparison as Jackson was used in different scenarios and that's why he was in the lineup.  He was more a specialist (that would play different spots) where I see Ayers as a potential rotational player on D that we are developing.  Ayers will have a future in this league, Jackson only last the one year I believe.  Agree to disagree.

I don't see Ayers regressing, I see good team depth ahead of him.  Gotta wait your turn on this club.  I seen promise in Ayers last year.  There is a certain type off player that grinds on ST and then develops into a backup, rotational guy or starter.  This is what I believe Ayers is, which is a far cry from what Jackson ever was going to be.

Woodbey>Ayers imo.

I think folks didn't like Jackson in the lineup and now have similar feelings about Ayers and that's about as deep as the comparison goes imo.

Pigskin

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 26, 2025, 01:01:29 PMWe need to win today to stay ahead of the Lions. If the moves today result in a win, then all is good.

Tomorrow, Blue.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Blue In BC

One game at a time.

RebusRankin

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 26, 2025, 01:22:02 PMGot my seasons mixed up, rebound was a comment from last year as we had a bad start.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I don't see the comparison as Jackson was used in different scenarios and that's why he was in the lineup.  He was more a specialist (that would play different spots) where I see Ayers as a potential rotational player on D that we are developing.  Ayers will have a future in this league, Jackson only last the one year I believe.  Agree to disagree.

I don't see Ayers regressing, I see good team depth ahead of him.  Gotta wait your turn on this club.  I seen promise in Ayers last year.  There is a certain type off player that grinds on ST and then develops into a backup, rotational guy or starter.  This is what I believe Ayers is, which is a far cry from what Jackson ever was going to be.

Woodbey>Ayers imo.

I think folks didn't like Jackson in the lineup and now have similar feelings about Ayers and that's about as deep as the comparison goes imo.

A guy getting less reps and opportunity on D in year 2 compared to year 1 is not getting groomed for a future role.

Jesse

Quote from: RebusRankin on September 27, 2025, 03:21:41 PMA guy getting less reps and opportunity on D in year 2 compared to year 1 is not getting groomed for a future role.

A victim of circumstance too. Our starting LBs have played every game.

That's wasn't true last year.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on September 27, 2025, 03:33:21 PMA victim of circumstance too. Our starting LBs have played every game.

That's wasn't true last year.

It's also probably true that he's not the next man up at any LB position.  That has to be J. Jones who actually got many defensive reps when he was on the AR.
One game at a time.