The good, the bad, and the ugly.

Started by Jesse, September 20, 2025, 10:05:52 PM

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blue_or_die

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 25, 2025, 07:36:29 PMWhat you're failing to recognize is the hit laid on Wheatfall caused a concussion due to the blunt force exerted, just as it would have if he speared him in the head with his helmet, the end result is the same.  The DB made a conscious decision to hit him as hard as he could to potentially knock the ball loose instead of wrapping him up with a proper tackle. Can't blame him as he's executing the lessons he's been taught, but if a penalty flag is pending for using excessive force, good chance he chooses the second option first.

From the league's standpoint favouring completions over bone-rattling hits creates more offence instead of  more punts.  It also has economic benefits of not having to pay Wheatfall to sit out games on the injury list and pay another player to take his place.

What if he wrapped him up and it knocked him to the ground so hard he got a concussion all the same? Would that be "excessive force"?

Proper, clean play results in injuries all the time. This is just an unfortunate example.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_or_die on September 25, 2025, 08:15:10 PMWhat if he wrapped him up and it knocked him to the ground so hard he got a concussion all the same? Would that be "excessive force"?

Proper, clean play results in injuries all the time. This is just an unfortunate example.

It was %100 avoidable.  Ever see Evan Holm smack a receiver down and injure them?  No, because he uses proper rugby tackling technique, which is better for everyone.

Tecno

Quote from: blue_or_die on September 25, 2025, 08:15:10 PMWhat if he wrapped him up and it knocked him to the ground so hard he got a concussion all the same? Would that be "excessive force"?

It's simple physics.  If the DB & REC are roughly the same weight (often true), then if both are unbraced (not sticking their legs in 45 degree angle), and moving at a similar speed (or neither moving too fast) then both should either stay together, or both be thrown back with equal force.

In the Wheatie case, if the DB went for a form tackle with no plant, then both parties would, post-hit, still be moving in the direction Wheatie was running.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 25, 2025, 08:41:21 PMIt was %100 avoidable.  Ever see Evan Holm smack a receiver down and injure them?  No, because he uses proper rugby tackling technique, which is better for everyone.

You bet.  After that hit I looked for retaliation hits (honestly, kind of hoping for one) and all our guys were just doing normal form tackles.  It's what we do, probably because it has a better chance of success in bringing the guy down.

Also, hits like the DB did on Wheatie have a very good chance of injuring the DB too.  That's not great for your career, or the team.
Never go full Johnston!

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T. Jones and C. Lawson fined for high hits on Dru Brown this week.

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