We need a QB for the be future and a good backup!

Started by Austin85, September 14, 2025, 12:54:54 AM

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bluengold204

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 16, 2025, 09:17:45 AMWhen is Alexander's contract up?  I think FA27?  This is all very easy: right before the GC it "leaks out" that WFC is willing to pay Alexander $100k above any other bidder PLUS $200k in MMM funny money.

Boom.  Problem solved.  Lock him for 3, then re-up for another 3.  Keep him the highest paid QB.  We've spent much (but not all) of the dynasty years paying Zach the highest QB salary in the league, especially when you back out other teams MMM cheating.  Mafia is more than prepared to pay more than everyone else for QB talent.  And Alexander is a future superstar and perennial GC winner.[/]


I dunno about that.  He's showed talent but the only thing he's has proven thus far is that he is injured more than he plays.

Sir Blue and Gold

Imagine if all you had to do to sign your QB1 was to do some tampering and make a few phone calls.

Can't believe no one thought of the before.

Tecno

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 16, 2025, 04:25:11 PMImagine if all you had to do to sign your QB1 was to do some tampering and make a few phone calls.

No tampering.  Just a "leak".  Oops, someone leaked it, the water boy did, he's fired, all good.  Welcome, Alexander!

And they don't even have to say "Alexander".  Just say "WFC has decided to pay the future league top QB $X + $Y MMM".  If someone assumes "Alexander", that's on them!
Never go full Johnston!

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 17, 2025, 05:24:48 AMNo tampering.  Just a "leak".  Oops, someone leaked it, the water boy did, he's fired, all good.  Welcome, Alexander!

And they don't even have to say "Alexander".  Just say "WFC has decided to pay the future league top QB $X + $Y MMM".  If someone assumes "Alexander", that's on them!


We already have a tampering period before free agency. You're trying to find solutions for problems that are theories only.
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Pete

Alexander is on a 3 year contract, this is year one.Unlike us, mtrl has been doing s very good job in locking up key players early (they just extended Snead for 2 years)
 Im not sure its just for job security but Walters insists on waiting as long as he can ,except for an aging qb whose performance is on downswing.
 I would be surprised if hes here next year

theaardvark

If Zach retires, we can recruit a QB starter.

If he holds onto his deal and makes it to camp, we are doomed to get a m'eh backup from the available pool, and if Zach decides in camp that he can't go for the season, and just collects hi guaranteed money, kiss 2026 (and a LOT of STH's) goodbye.

This teams has the benefit of loyal fans and sells out every game.  That will not continue if they m'eh out the rest of the season.

There needs to be changes that signal to the fans they are doing something.

My ST's are 80/20 likely to not be renewed at this time, and THAT says a lot.

Walters, MOS, the ball is in your court.
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Quote from: theaardvark on September 17, 2025, 02:39:11 PMIf Zach retires, we can recruit a QB starter.

If he holds onto his deal and makes it to camp, we are doomed to get a m'eh backup from the available pool, and if Zach decides in camp that he can't go for the season, and just collects hi guaranteed money, kiss 2026 (and a LOT of STH's) goodbye.

This teams has the benefit of loyal fans and sells out every game.  That will not continue if they m'eh out the rest of the season.

There needs to be changes that signal to the fans they are doing something.

My ST's are 80/20 likely to not be renewed at this time, and THAT says a lot.

Walters, MOS, the ball is in your court.

I got stuck reading your first line over and over again because I couldn't believe anyone would think this is a possibility.   Recruit a starter???  Yes please!!!

Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on September 17, 2025, 02:39:11 PMIf Zach retires, we can recruit a QB starter.

If he holds onto his deal and makes it to camp, we are doomed to get a m'eh backup from the available pool, and if Zach decides in camp that he can't go for the season, and just collects hi guaranteed money, kiss 2026 (and a LOT of STH's) goodbye.

This teams has the benefit of loyal fans and sells out every game.  That will not continue if they m'eh out the rest of the season.

There needs to be changes that signal to the fans they are doing something.

My ST's are 80/20 likely to not be renewed at this time, and THAT says a lot.

Walters, MOS, the ball is in your court.

It says very little if you're bailing at the first sign of trouble after years of unprecedented success, actually.
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bluengold204

Quote from: Jesse on September 17, 2025, 11:03:01 PMIt says very little if you're bailing at the first sign of trouble after years of unprecedented success, actually.

Yup definition of fair weather fan

dd

It's no secret, if we don't get a decent #1 Qb moving forward, ticket sales and fan support is going to drop.

I don't see us recruiting  a current #1 Qb from any other team, as they too know the importance of a proven #1 Qb--we are not getting Alexander, or VAJ or Harris or BLM to come here, we just aren't. Rather, we will have to try and convince Arbuckle or MBT that their chances of becoming a #1 Qb lie in Winnipeg, vs be a #2 where they are. Those are the only 2 that I can see we stand a decent shot of getting here. My preference would be Arbuckle as MBT can have sizzling games, followed by stinkers, but really either would do.

If Zach is coming back, fine, sign him, but I'd have NA or MBT as our #2 knowing full well, Zach WILL get hurt next year, and likely decline more than this year, so a change is coming, just get ready for it.

If Zach retires, I d sign NA or MBT, but also go after a decent backup, Strevy ain't it. Dolegala, Patterson, Doege, Powell...there's a few around likely looking for a bonafide shot at #2 and all better than what we have.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 17, 2025, 01:18:57 PMWe already have a tampering period before free agency. You're trying to find solutions for problems that are theories only.

Most top QBs get locked up WAY before the tampering period.  Thus the need to "tamper" around GC time.

So MTL has Alexander locked up for 3 years?  Then we may need Zach for 2.5 more years!  ;)  ;)  Then we'll "tamper" the heck out of Alexander.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on September 17, 2025, 02:39:11 PMIf he holds onto his deal and makes it to camp, we are doomed to get a m'eh backup from the available pool

No, if Zach stays we're "doomed to get a" budget/nobody backup.  No way we have the $ to get even a meh backup.

The only way we get an Arbuckle, Ford, Cody, Powell, or even Crum, here as #2 in '26 is if Zach takes a big pay cut to pay for it.  And I'm pretty sure Mafia won't ask, and Zach won't offer.  And every other "spare" QB not listed above is basically garbage, and the ones we'd likely draw from if we cut Strev.

No way we ever tie up $1M+ on just the QB room.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: theaardvark on September 17, 2025, 02:39:11 PMMy ST's are 80/20 likely to not be renewed at this time, and THAT says a lot.

Simply insane.  Are you guys saying this having major emotional distress or something from all the losing?  It's really not that bad!

WE BLUE & GOLD ARE NOT WIMPY FAIR-WEATHER SSK FANS WHO ALL QUIT THEIR ST AFTER 2 YEARS OF LOSING.  WE ARE WPG.  WE ARE LEGION.  IF WE CAN SURVIVE BROHM, WE CAN SURVIVE ANYTHING.
Never go full Johnston!

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on September 17, 2025, 11:03:01 PMIt says very little if you're bailing at the first sign of trouble after years of unprecedented success, actually.

Oh, it says plenty about him as a fan - and none of it is flattering.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 18, 2025, 06:45:12 AMNo, if Zach stays we're "doomed to get a" budget/nobody backup.  No way we have the $ to get even a meh backup.

The only way we get an Arbuckle, Ford, Cody, Powell, or even Crum, here as #2 in '26 is if Zach takes a big pay cut to pay for it.  And I'm pretty sure Mafia won't ask, and Zach won't offer.  And every other "spare" QB not listed above is basically garbage, and the ones we'd likely draw from if we cut Strev.

No way we ever tie up $1M+ on just the QB room.

Zach was smart to re-up for next year before this season began, now that the cards are on the table Walters can see it's not a good deal to pay him over $400k next season.  Not sure Zach will back off on that contract as they're unlikely to cut him if he doesn't, but could get litigious if he holds them to the terms of the contract they signed. My fear is they honour the contract and they roll into next season with the same QB room, a year older and a year slower.