Chris Streveler Good enough make a team but not good enough to start

Started by BBFANDM, September 13, 2025, 02:21:53 AM

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bunker

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2025, 09:07:03 PMWorried O'Shea will blindly pledge his commitment to Collaros as his QB through next season without any reconsideration, simply because they've already signed a contract extension.  Not hard to imagine him extending the same blind committment to Streveler.
Yeah, unfortunately thats my feeling too. I actually think Zach has a bit left in the tank if he had a good O-line and and OC (especially an OC with some experience that could rein him in in terms of pushing the envelope and throwing interceptions), and I'm not sure there is a better QB out there who will be available to us. The problem will be that O'Shea will trot out the same O-line next year, and keep Hogan on as well. His best quality, loyalty and being a player's coach, is also his worst quality unfortunately. I'm hoping Miller puts his foot down, but not holding my breath. It will probably take a major hit to his bottom line for Miller to step in.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: bunker on September 13, 2025, 09:15:24 PMYeah, unfortunately thats my feeling too. I actually think Zach has a bit left in the tank if he had a good O-line and and OC (especially an OC with some experience that could rein him in in terms of pushing the envelope and throwing interceptions), and I'm not sure there is a better QB out there who will be available to us. The problem will be that O'Shea will trot out the same O-line next year, and keep Hogan on as well. His best quality, loyalty and being a player's coach, is also his worst quality unfortunately. I'm hoping Miller puts his foot down, but not holding my breath. It will probably take a major hit to his bottom line for Miller to step in.

I think Zach is too fragile to gamble another season on, he's missed a substantial amount of game-time already this season and he's just going to get worse the older he gets.  No O-line is going to offer him perfect protection, especially when he fails to account for a LB come around the corner unblocked.

The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 13, 2025, 08:51:07 PM...was it beside a series of TVs that show whether or not outbound flights are on time?

lol.

No

guarantee his wife dragged him there...demski and fam were there as well

bunker

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2025, 10:30:19 PMI think Zach is too fragile to gamble another season on, he's missed a substantial amount of game-time already this season and he's just going to get worse the older he gets.  No O-line is going to offer him perfect protection, especially when he fails to account for a LB come around the corner unblocked.
You might be right on that.

GOLDMEMBER

MOS to think our best chance to win is this slate of QBs as they are is lunacy!

Strevy cannot play the CFL game well enough any more. Zach should be done. Wilson we may never know because MOS mind set is so ridiculously loyal.
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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2025, 10:30:19 PMI think Zach is too fragile to gamble another season on, he's missed a substantial amount of game-time already this season and he's just going to get worse the older he gets.  No O-line is going to offer him perfect protection, especially when he fails to account for a LB come around the corner unblocked.

Remember the seasons not that long ago where our OL kept Zach clean for many/most games?  Entire games where they didn't touch him, or the odd minor tackle or bump.  Member?  Member?  I member.

You buy yourself that '21 OL and Zach can flourish again.  He'll be that QB having all day to throw, like we see so many of our opponents doing...

So ya, we can get an OL that will keep him mostly untouched.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2025, 09:07:03 PMWorried O'Shea will blindly pledge his commitment to Collaros as his QB through next season without any reconsideration

Well, if that's all KW gives him, then that's what MOS will play.  Finding/signing the QBs is KW's job.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: dd on September 13, 2025, 07:04:47 PMOur roster is at a cross roads with it's aging 'stars', namely Jefferson

We drop Willie (whose salary is quite reasonable now), and 8 other teams are scrambling to pick him up.  Can you imagine BC if they had Betts on 1 side and Willie on the other?

Willie has plenty left in the tank.  He's never injured (due to play style and avoidance), and has/is NOT falling into Odell age-related drop-off.

And if our scheme ignores the concept of pass-rush, what good will another great DE do for us?
Never go full Johnston!

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 06:55:18 PMNot good enough to win the # 2 QB spot in Winnipeg but was awarded the spot before TC IMO.

Too bad. He's certainly a popular player for fans and team mates. His skill set has never been top tier and injuries have taken away his running ability that he had earlier in his career.

He's more of a player in a LB body that wants to be a QB. Tough cookie that's for sure.
I think I was wrong on making half the clubs but he would make some as a #3 imo.  Tough to see him get early success and then struggle so much.

Make some good points here.  I just want him to succeed but maybe I have to come to realization that isn't going to happen that likley.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 14, 2025, 05:27:40 AMI think I was wrong on making half the clubs but he would make some as a #3 imo.  Tough to see him get early success and then struggle so much.

Make some good points here.  I just want him to succeed but maybe I have to come to realization that isn't going to happen that likley.

Teams want their # 3 QB to be the development QB. OTOH, if they have a solid # 1 and developing # 2 then a QB like Streveler could be a # 3 QB at the right price.

For example when we still had Dru Brown as our # 2 QB then that could have been a role Streveler could have filled.

The problem is that every player wants to be playing and contributing. In that sense I don't see him filling that role unless a team has significant injuries at that position. Secondly I don't think it's a role he wants to fill.

We've seen younger QB's like Dolegala or Patterson released and then added to rosters as injuries strike. One one hand lower SMS hit and still some CFL experience and possible upside.

Looking at the Bombers in 2026, Streveler and Wilson are in the final year of their contracts. Artopoleus is on the PR and would have to be re-signed post season. Elgersma might decide during the off season to sign a contract in Winnipeg.

That's a lot of moving parts even if Collaros returns which is also not guaranteed.

Too early to tell who will be available in free agency but there will be a few.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 14, 2025, 03:12:33 PMTeams want their # 3 QB to be the development QB. OTOH, if they have a solid # 1 and developing # 2 then a QB like Streveler could be a # 3 QB at the right price.

For example when we still had Dru Brown as our # 2 QB then that could have been a role Streveler could have filled.

The problem is that every player wants to be playing and contributing. In that sense I don't see him filling that role unless a team has significant injuries at that position. Secondly I don't think it's a role he wants to fill.

We've seen younger QB's like Dolegala or Patterson released and then added to rosters as injuries strike. One one hand lower SMS hit and still some CFL experience and possible upside.

Looking at the Bombers in 2026, Streveler and Wilson are in the final year of their contracts. Artopoleus is on the PR and would have to be re-signed post season. Elgersma might decide during the off season to sign a contract in Winnipeg.

That's a lot of moving parts even if Collaros returns which is also not guaranteed.

Too early to tell who will be available in free agency but there will be a few.
Make a lot of good points here.  Only certainty is change around these parts. 

theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2025, 03:22:46 AMThe point is, they shouldn't have been doing that at all!  It was tempo with no subs!

Are you guys forgetting HAM took a too many men penalty on that play?

They tried to sub when it was impossible.  ONLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SUB.  ONLY BECAUSE STREV WAS THE STARTER AND SY.

But the point is, does that happen if we had Wilson in as starter?  It was a situational result.  Doesn't happen with Zach, but it isn't a Streveler only result.  Had Wilson been in, same result.

Not "Only Streveler makes that play", sorry.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Sir Blue and Gold

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Who cares?

It's completely irrelevant. Hamilton blew that play and it will be the only time this year any team in the league does it. It has nothing to do with keeping the QB in or not. Teams do both frequently throughout the year and never once has anyone said, "smart thinking to leave their QB in, they'll probably leave a guy totally uncovered on the perimeter."

Hilarious.

theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 14, 2025, 06:36:44 PMWho cares?

It's completely irrelevant. Hamilton blew that play and it will be the only time this year any team in the league does it. It has nothing to do with keeping the QB in or not. Teams do both frequently throughout the year and never once has anyone said, "smart thinking to leave their QB in, they'll probably leave a guy totally uncovered on the perimeter."

Hilarious.

No, the conjecture was that only Streveler could have made that play.  That the play's success was 100% Streveler, and not situational.

And because of this one play, Streveler is the nest backup in the league, and should always be Zach's backup over Wilson or Chase. (I will continue to use "Chase" an not Artie, or The Greek as my preferred name for him.  It will be a while before we get the spelling of Artopoeus, much like when Lirim was here)
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.