Chris Streveler Good enough make a team but not good enough to start

[Jesse]

No argument here.  Not many teams will make the mistake HAM did.  But their mistake was trying to sub on tempo, NOT leaving Wheatie wide open.  The sub was the direct cause of the coverage mistake.

We're arguing the semantics of in practice vs in theory on this one.

Yea, it was the substitution package that caused the mistake, no we don't need Strev in to run that kind of offence.

[BBFANDM]

Strev. hasn't progressed since he came back from the NFL, the team should have deduced this before he was injured last year and made alternative plans by the end of the season.  Now O'Shea is sticking with him out of spite, hoping he somehow begins to make plays he's clearly not capable of making.  At this point, what's the point?

And 95 is playing out of spite as well does he ever come of the field ?

[Tecno]

Now O'Shea is sticking with him out of spite, hoping he somehow begins to make plays he's clearly not capable of making.

I wonder if MOS isn't starting to get angry, not at the QBs, but at Hogan.  We are doing nothing at all to set up our O to succeed.  When the DBs are in front of every REC on a come-back route, that's on the scheme.

I'm going to check soon but I just know on the INTs the DBs were cheating back to cut the routes BEFORE Strev even wound up.

We show NOTHING NEW each week.  We do NOTHING CREATIVE.  We play the LAMEST PASS CALLS.

Even the lamest dumbest mundane bread & butter 2nd & 4 is IMPOSSIBLE for us to convert.  Zach, Strev, doesn't matter.  If we don't run it then it's hopeless: either a whiff or an INT.

And since I know for a FACT our RECs aren't crap (they are miles better than SSK's), then the only other factor is the STUPID UNINSPIRED schemes.  At least in the short pass game...

This is entirely on Hogan, Jarius, and MOS.  And I bet MOS is starting to notice too.  I think there's some major heat coming their way, and we may see some shake-ups, because if the heat from the fires under their butts isn't doing anything, then what options are left?

[VictorRomano]

I don't think any QB would have success here as long as our OL is allowing all kinds of pressure against a 3 man rush.  The interior 3 need to be replaced is they can't improve their pass protection.

[Pete]

Its a catch 22 in order to be effective at all Strev has to run. With his style of running its a miracle he lasts a game
 He never goes down on his own has had a ton of wear and tear along with significant injuries.
  Yet the coaches seem to ignore this. What makes it worse we seem to have no backup qb that we have any faith in.

[The Zipp]

I explained in the GDT, and I stand by it.  That 3rd & 1 TD *only* happens because Strev was the starting QB.  With Zach in that can't happen.  It only happens because HAM can't sub in tempo.  If we did a normal Zach->SY sub then HAM has normal time and normal personnel and they have that guy covered.

100 true but it was a one and done. not going to happen again. 

[The Zipp]

Hard to argue there.  What if you called plays from Pizza Hut buffet lol.
Like Lapo says not seeing the pictures.

we break up this great conversation for a commercial:

i actually had pizza hut for supper last night and it was pretty good..eating the leftovers right now - still pretty good, nothing beats an air fryer for heating up pizza. 

the chipits chocolate chip cookie pizza was also very good

now back to your regular programming...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Its a catch 22 in order to be effective at all Strev has to run. With his style of running its a miracle he lasts a game
 He never goes down on his own has had a ton of wear and tear along with significant injuries.
  Yet the coaches seem to ignore this. What makes it worse we seem to have no backup qb that we have any faith in.

Strev. is the definition of brawn over brain, his desperate attempt to penetrate the endzone on the last play was pointless but also sad to watch.

[RebusRankin]

His stats a few weeks ago at Short yardage were as good as Wilson's and has a success rate near the 90s, which likely has improved.  The numbers indicate he is not terrible but good at this role.  Not best anymore but still good.

Strev is good to make half the CFL teams imo, due to experience and cheap price tag
Value is decling though
Tough to see him struggle so much, Zach out and no Terry time.  I would have sprinkled him in and played him at the end. 

A bad situation that got worse today.

Steveler is not good to make half the teams in the CFL.
Montreal-No
Hamilton-No
Toronto-No
Ottawa-No
Edmonton-No
Saskatchewan-No

[Blue In BC]

Steveler is not good to make half the teams in the CFL.
Montreal-No
Hamilton-No
Toronto-No
Ottawa-No
Edmonton-No
Saskatchewan-No

Not good enough to win the # 2 QB spot in Winnipeg but was awarded the spot before TC IMO.

Too bad. He's certainly a popular player for fans and team mates. His skill set has never been top tier and injuries have taken away his running ability that he had earlier in his career.

He's more of a player in a LB body that wants to be a QB. Tough cookie that's for sure.

[dd]

Our roster is at a cross roads with it's aging 'stars', namely Jefferson and Collaros are well past their prime, and we're due to move on from these guys and it's gonna be tough. MOS is a players coach and is loyal to his players to a fault, and I just don't see him cutting them, it will be a financial issue at contract re-signing.

I'd be looking at an up and coming Dlineman like Betts or Ceresna, if you're going to dole out some $$, and Jefferson would get a fraction of what he's getting now. And I'd get Cody here next year or failing that Arbuckle or even Crumb!! and if Zach wants to go to #2 at a cheaper price and extend his playing days, fine, if not, it's time to move on and it'll be tougher than when we moved on from Harris and Biggie as he's done so much for our us in the last 5 years.

[bwiser]

I don't think any QB would have success here as long as our OL is allowing all kinds of pressure against a 3 man rush.  The interior 3 need to be replaced is they can't improve their pass protection.

This off season upgrading the O line has to be a priority.The Bombers need to go hard in free agency and get a couple of top rate o linemen.

[The Zipp]

strev is NOT hurt - seen this afternoon walking just fine out and about.  won't say where to respect players privacy.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

strev is NOT hurt - seen this afternoon walking just fine out and about.  won't say where to respect players privacy.

...was it beside a series of TVs that show whether or not outbound flights are on time?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Our roster is at a cross roads with it's aging 'stars', namely Jefferson and Collaros are well past their prime, and we're due to move on from these guys and it's gonna be tough. MOS is a players coach and is loyal to his players to a fault, and I just don't see him cutting them, it will be a financial issue at contract re-signing.

I'd be looking at an up and coming Dlineman like Betts or Ceresna, if you're going to dole out some $$, and Jefferson would get a fraction of what he's getting now. And I'd get Cody here next year or failing that Arbuckle or even Crumb!! and if Zach wants to go to #2 at a cheaper price and extend his playing days, fine, if not, it's time to move on and it'll be tougher than when we moved on from Harris and Biggie as he's done so much for our us in the last 5 years.

Worried O'Shea will blindly pledge his commitment to Collaros as his QB through next season without any reconsideration, simply because they've already signed a contract extension.  Not hard to imagine him extending the same blind committment to Streveler.