QB Sliding for TD

[TecnoGenius]

VAJ sliding view 1

VAJ sliding view 1 slowed down

VAJ sliding view 2

[TecnoGenius]

Interesting, I hadn't noticed before but VAJ takes 3 total head hits:
1. fist to the head
2. knee to the head
3. turf to the head

Someone tell me this wouldn't have been a flag (from ref or EITS) last season when "QB protection" was on the menu.  This season protection is out of favor, apparently.

This also ties into my EITS thread about why did MOS need to challenge the hit on Zach?  Where is EITS??  Does this mean if Dickenson The Greater had challenged he too would have won?  He shouldn't have to.

I would bet large sums of money this hit on VAJ is getting fined this week.  And that's proof enough that EITS should have flagged it.  Something is majorly wrong with command and how these things are being handled this season.

[dd]

Adams was in the process of going down, 33 could have avoided contact altogether. suspension is in order here, fine is useless, players are still going to do it.

[Blueforlife]

Adams was in the process of going down, 33 could have avoided contact altogether. suspension is in order here, fine is useless, players are still going to do it.

I get the point but there will be no suspension but will be a fine
Unfortunate play to be sure

[TecnoGenius]

Ya, it'll be a fine, no doubt.  I think it should be a suspension.  But it won't be unless VAJ get diagnosed with a major concussion and prescribed 2 months off or something heavy like that -- something that impacts the CFL bottom line by ruining the "product".

Since VAJ is "younger" and hasn't had too many brain scrambles yet, he'll probably be fine tomorrow and practicing this week.  CGY literally won't win anything without him.  They're even more reliant upon VAJ than we are on Zach.

[Big Daddy]

Do QB's have any tiny bit of responsibility in this though? Years ago it was fairly straight-forward - when the QB is going forward and clearly sliding feet first, everything has to be done to avoid hitting.  When they bash through head first like a RB, they can be hit like a RB.

I'm not sure why QB's are doing these variations on sliding that can make it harder to tell in the split second that they are "giving themselves up".  Maybe I'm way off here, it just seemed clearer in the past when they would just obviously go down feet first.  Not that it necessarily made a difference with reffing getting the call right, but it seemed a bit easier to tell in hindsight and on video review.

[Blue In BC]

I don't see a reason for a suspension on those videos. He didn't slide feet first and I didn't see a defender trying to hit him in the head. VAJ also slid late and that makes it difficult to avoid this kind of hit.

[Jesse]

Do QB's have any tiny bit of responsibility in this though? Years ago it was fairly straight-forward - when the QB is going forward and clearly sliding feet first, everything has to be done to avoid hitting.  When they bash through head first like a RB, they can be hit like a RB.

I'm not sure why QB's are doing these variations on sliding that can make it harder to tell in the split second that they are "giving themselves up".  Maybe I'm way off here, it just seemed clearer in the past when they would just obviously go down feet first.  Not that it necessarily made a difference with reffing getting the call right, but it seemed a bit easier to tell in hindsight and on video review.

The league is willing to sacrifice the defence in an attempt to keep QBs safe.

It's not about being fair or reasonable, unfortunately/fortunately.

[Waffler]

It's normal to try to go over the QB when they slide. VAJ kept his head high AND 33 made sure he made some contact which happened to the highest point, the helmet. Kind of accidentally on purpose. A bit of blame to both. Also VAJ looks sideways near the end, not straight ahead. He has to protect himself. You can't leave it to the refs to call later.

[TBURGESS]

The Hammy one was a head to head hit. Obvious penalty.

They need to fix the sliding rule in the off season. QB's are taking advantage of sliding as late as possible and not actually giving themselves up. Then they want protection. I would give them that protection when they are behind the LOS, and treat them like a RB when they go past the LOS.