Bombers @ Cats

Started by Pigskin, September 07, 2025, 08:45:05 PM

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Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 09, 2025, 10:01:08 PMIf just Wilson is out would be Cadwallader, Woodbey and Griffin maybe rotating.  If both are out we got trouble.  Couple key cogs there.

IMO J. Jones would be added and starting at WIL.
One game at a time.

Slingin Sammy

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 10:17:45 PMIMO J. Jones would be added and starting at WIL.

Wasn't Ayers the heir apparent for the WIL spot?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Slingin Sammy on September 09, 2025, 11:10:40 PMWasn't Ayers the heir apparent for the WIL spot?

Last year he was but IMO he's been passed on the depth chart for that role.  We're paying J. Jones $120K.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 11:28:22 PMLast year he was but IMO he's been passed on the depth chart for that role.  We're paying J. Jones $120K.
To be honest forgot about him.  Yes he would be the natural fit.  Good call.  Forgot to look at PR for depth.

Blue In BC

So D. Lawson moves inside to DB with Houston at CB. Yes, I guess that would be the logical plan if Nichols can't play.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 10, 2025, 01:36:04 AMSo D. Lawson moves inside to DB with Houston at CB. Yes, I guess that would be the logical plan if Nichols can't play.

It seems no one other than Nichols or Holm has played HB for years, can't remember the last time either missed a game.  Tricky putting a rookie in that spot, Griffin might be the better fit. Not worried yet about any of the nicked up players other than Zach, expect most of them to play in Hamilton. Without Zach they might as well all stay home and keep him company.

Tecno

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 04:52:25 PMThis is not a surprise. The question is whether Collaros can play this week, is moved to 1 game IR or 6 game IR.

What's the deadline for Zach to 1GIR?  I assume we'll just do the "GTD" trick for Zach again (and he starts) if he's not IR'd.  All depends if we deem this a "6 day waiting period" hit or a "13 day waiting period" one.  That's really the only 2 options, besides retirement.
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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 09, 2025, 04:19:36 PMAll depends what Echols is showing them in practice and Sterns recovery, there's always the hope Mitchell can return to the form he showed with the Elks

From memory, D.Mitchell was always a one-trick pony in first 2 seasons: the home run hitter.  Give him a mid/deep ball and he'll be wide open for TD, or he'll make 1 guy miss.  I don't recall him ever being used to make tough catches in heavy traffic.

I'm not sure WFC can use Mitchell the way he's designed.  Especially since we have 3+ other home run hitters who are probably better.

I think the best way to Mitchell to succeed here is to keep using him inside then later in the game you take the home run shot when everyone has become accustomed to cheating up on his short route.  Not sure it's worth a roster spot just for that, though.
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Tecno

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 09, 2025, 04:09:48 PMOn specials...ya Sergio had a tough game, but our specials are good enough to win, and have won games for us.....million dollar question though are we prioritizing special teams depth to the detriment of other parts of teh roster?

On that point: do we have the best ST cover team in the league?  Has anyone busted one on us yet?  Are we the team with least-busts given up on ST?

So even if our O sucks rocks, at least our ST isn't!  Now, if Vaval could bust 2-3 every game, we'd have something cooking!
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Tecno

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on September 09, 2025, 03:14:59 PMCampbell weighs 195 lbs. Of the 45 players on the Riders roster there are 3 players that weigh less than him. Campbell is the Riders "skinny guy". The hit was similar to Cadwallader's hit on the 1 yard line in the LDC, also not penalized.

On Cadwall's great hit the dude jumped high in the air to try a hurdle or something.  Vaval wasn't jumping anywhere.  Cadwall didn't lift him any higher than he was already going, and the main hit force was on the actual hit, not the slam to the turf.
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Tecno

Quote from: gordo on September 09, 2025, 03:10:22 PMVaval ran into him at full speed.  His momentum took him up in the air.

My wife ran into my fist, I swear!  Her fault!

Quote from: gordo on September 09, 2025, 03:10:22 PMSure he brought him down hard but it's football. That kind of play happens all the time. Score is irrelevant. Guys play hard all game, that's how they're trained. Don't know how you call that a "wrestling move".

From cfldb:

Suplex Tackle
    An unnecessary roughness major foul (Rule 7 — Fouls & Penalties – Section 2 — Major Fouls – Article 3 — Unnecessary Roughness Point (r)) for throwing the ball carrier to the ground. The term "suplex tackle" does not appear in the rulebook, instead it is a lexicalized concept that summarizes the idea of this rule. Taken from wrestling terminology, a suplex is a move involving lifting an opponent and bridging or rolling the opponent to slam them on their back.

Sounds like a great description of what the SSK guy did to Vaval!

Strangely, I could have sworn "suplex" was actually stated in the rule book in prior years as an example like an "e.g." or "i.e." point.  The current book doesn't have it.  And yes, cfldb isn't authoritative.  I'll see if I can dig up my prior-year rules.

The only thing currently in the book is in the "RTP" section, where they protect QB against "violently throwing them to the ground".

If the dude had lifted Vaval 1 more foot off the ground 100% they would have flagged it.  They have every other time it's happened.

P.S. In a "form tackle" the D would go down and land with the returner, not extend him out and slam just him to the ground while the D guy is still standing.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: Pigskin on September 09, 2025, 02:08:10 PMAt 83 yards in 5 games I would have replaced him with a Canadian WR, and used that American spot for a DT.

Hindsight... I think we had much higher hopes when ARing him.
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Tecno

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 09, 2025, 12:47:41 PMThey certainly do my friend.  Seen that story before.  Love the attitude.  I do boo at times, cool that you don't.  Funny memory there.

The Brohm turf fest is forever burned in my brain, associated with great pain and suffering.  I wake up with cold sweats every other night thinking Brohm is in my room threatening to start for the Bombers!  Slow-motion quiet-scream: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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GOLDMEMBER

You know I don't say this much and it takes a lot to get me to sway this way but I think we are cooked for this game.

Collaros should be out, for his own good at the least, and even if he is in he has reverted to being a pick machine again. I have zero faith in this coaching staff especially Hogan who seems to have been an epic failure. Younger brings nothing special this year either. Sergio has reverted back to his inconsistent kicking and our return game is dormant again.

MOS seems to like to run it back even when things have repeatedly proven to just not work. His stubbornness is reaching limitless proportions. That is a real shame.

I can Lawler and Howdie Doodie ripping the D a new one in this game.
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