Bombers @ Cats

[blue_gold_84]

Outside of Demski, production is down across the board on offense. I mean, for goodness sake, Oliveira is third in receiving yards.

Of course the players gotta show up and execute, but as a whole, the offense should be better than this. I'm putting the bulk of the blame on the OC, who's clearly shown he can't gameplan proficiently, much less make adjustments in-game.

It's sickening.

[Blueforlife]

At 83 yards in 5 games I would have replaced him with a Canadian WR, and used that American spot for a DT.

Make a good point but Mitchell had a good game in Sask

Outside of Demski, production is down across the board on offense. I mean, for goodness sake, Oliveira is third in receiving yards.

Of course the players gotta show up and execute, but as a whole, the offense should be better than this. I'm putting the bulk of the blame on the OC, who's clearly shown he can't gameplan proficiently, much less make adjustments in-game.

It's sickening.

I think it's on the OL but OC a factor yes
I think O is slowly coming to life

[Pete]

The current defense I believe could be very good with just a few tweaks:
1 Houston in for Vaval
2. Woods or Adams in
3 in the 3 dline scheme disguise which linebacker rushes. Currently we often just line one up and its obvious who they have to block.
Based on our personnel the use of the 3 dl 4 lb set up makes sense and forces other teams out of their normal setups

[GOLDMEMBER]

Outside of Demski, production is down across the board on offense. I mean, for goodness sake, Oliveira is third in receiving yards.

Of course the players gotta show up and execute, but as a whole, the offense should be better than this. I'm putting the bulk of the blame on the OC, who's clearly shown he can't gameplan proficiently, much less make adjustments in-game.

It's sickening.

well said! Truth!

[Blue In BC]

At 83 yards in 5 games I would have replaced him with a Canadian WR, and used that American spot for a DT.

That's a decent option. The thing is we don't know how long Sterns will be unavailable. He's on the 1 game IR which is encouraging but not definitive either. Echols has some CFL experience but I haven't heard much about how is looking in practice.

If neither are choices for this week, then adding Woods or Adams is not the worst idea.

[Blueforlife]

That's a decent option. The thing is we don't know how long Sterns will be unavailable. He's on the 1 game IR which is encouraging but not definitive either. Echols has some CFL experience but I haven't heard much about how is looking in practice.

If neither are choices for this week, then adding Woods or Adams is not the worst idea.

I want Woods I want Woods lol

[gordo]

That was 100% a penalty.  Wrestling moves like suplex are explicitly named in the rule book.  You cannot pick a guy up and then body slam him to the turf.  We've seen this flagged before.  It's very dangerous for tiny or skinny returners.

I was livid at the game they weren't flagging it.

I'm guessing he's ok, though sore.  However, you can possibly break an upper-body bone from that.  That would be disaster, though we do have "runs slow and scared" Logan to take over.

Vaval ran into him at full speed.  His momentum took him up in the air.  Sure he brought him down hard but it's football. That kind of play happens all the time. Score is irrelevant. Guys play hard all game, that's how they're trained. Don't know how you call that a "wrestling move".

[Blue In BC]

Make a good point but Mitchell had a good game in SaskI think it's on the OL but OC a factor yes
I think O is slowly coming to life

IDK. 3 receptions for 28 yards in Regina. 1 reception in Winnipeg for 6 yards. He did manage to hang on to the ball when hit immediately by Rider DB's so I'll give him that. OTOH, I'm not sure I'd qualify 28 yards by any receiver as a good game unless that included a couple of TD's.

[The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB]

That was 100% a penalty.  Wrestling moves like suplex are explicitly named in the rule book.  You cannot pick a guy up and then body slam him to the turf.  We've seen this flagged before.  It's very dangerous for tiny or skinny returners.

I was livid at the game they weren't flagging it.

I'm guessing he's ok, though sore.  However, you can possibly break an upper-body bone from that.  That would be disaster, though we do have "runs slow and scared" Logan to take over.

Campbell weighs 195 lbs. Of the 45 players on the Riders roster there are 3 players that weigh less than him. Campbell is the Riders "skinny guy". The hit was similar to Cadwallader's hit on the 1 yard line in the LDC, also not penalized.

[Pigskin]

Make a good point but Mitchell had a good game in SaskI think it's on the OL but OC a factor yes
I think O is slowly coming to life

If you consider 28 yards a good game, sure.

[Blue In BC]

I want Woods I want Woods lol

It's interesting that the roster decisions have not led to Woods being on the AR for even one game. Adams has played in 10 games of 12.

I have no idea what the criteria has been for no games for Woods.

That's a question for some that get to practice and can tell us what they see.

Either has to be better than Kornelson as a rotational DT to keep Lawson and Thomas from wearing out.

I'd be curious to see Woods get a chance this week but doubt it happens. We're already between a rock and a hard place figuring out the Houston and Vaval issue with the ratio aspect.

For that matter I'm not totally convinced we even see Houston this week.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ike does come in somewhat.  Not sure about last game because we had our "normal" 2 jumbos available, and they did come in at times.

As for Clercius: we often bring RECs into the box in motion or post-snap to pass protect.  OFTEN.  However, Clercius is WR, widest out on the widest side of the field, and it's very hard to fake him being a WR then get him into the box in time to help.  AND he's often the end, needing to make sure he doesn't motion off the line.

In theory it sounds good, but maybe it's good enough with Wheatie/Demski handling most of that box duty?  (Yes, Emperor has like 50 lbs on those dudes...)

Corcoran often comes on for Wheatfall or Mitchell in these situations when extra inside blocking is required.  If Corcoran was smart he'd follow Woli's playbook to becoming a dependable inside receiver and great blocker, if not he won't find his place.

[Blueforlife]

Corcoran often comes on for Wheatfall or Mitchell in these situations when extra inside blocking is required.  If Corcoran was smart he'd follow Woli's playbook to becoming a dependable inside receiver and great blocker, if not he won't find his place.

Excellent assessment

It's interesting that the roster decisions have not led to Woods being on the AR for even one game. Adams has played in 10 games of 12.

I have no idea what the criteria has been for no games for Woods.

That's a question for some that get to practice and can tell us what they see.

Either has to be better than Kornelson as a rotational DT to keep Lawson and Thomas from wearing out.

I'd be curious to see Woods get a chance this week but doubt it happens. We're already between a rock and a hard place figuring out the Houston and Vaval issue with the ratio aspect.

For that matter I'm not totally convinced we even see Houston this week.

Agree both pts

If you consider 28 yards a good game, sure.

I consider his game in Sask and good 1st step, followed by a poor showing

[Blue In BC]

Excellent assessment Agree both ptsI consider his game in Sask and good 1st step, followed by a poor showing

If Mitchell had the 1st Rider game earlier in the season he'd have more leeway. Not being able to get onto the AR for so long takes that away. We've only got 6 games left and based on his 1st 5 games, that window should be closed.

Keeping in mind he was signed on a 1 year deal for $148K with a lot of that up front. He needed to be be an impact immediately not slowly as a developmental player.

Compare that to Sterns output for $90K.

[3rdand1.5]

My 2 cents.....

On defence we are good enough to win.....we need to improve the D-line, and if you stand back, we have a-lot of new faces in eth secondary and it is actually doing good, imagine when the get comfortable and get chemistry/figure out who is the best where.....our depth other than LB is thin

On specials...ya Sergio had a tough game, but our specials are good enough to win, and have won games for us.....million dollar question though are we prioritizing special teams depth to the detriment of other parts of teh roster?

Om offence we are not good enough to win.....Zach has been beaten and smacked around all year, Streveler is coming off MAJOR knee surgery and nowhere near 100%...Schoen well we all know, just is not healthy...Our receivers really are not that bad, they are good enough to win IMO...yes they got really thin a week or so ago, but we brought in Echols, Moore and Pokey...released Moore (I  think he is too damaged to be productive any longer)....our oline has been poor this year, no sugar coating it they are not playing well enough to win. Our RB's are great and we have proper depth....IMO the OC is not setting the guys we have up for success...We need to be netter on the o-line, we need some better talent, and equally as important we need a better scheme....

Roster and roster usage, has been questionable at times...I am not sure if we always have/had the right guys on the roster.....Mitchel, Housten, Woods, Adams, Allen, Schmekle etc....

Depth.....weak in many spots.....we have drafted seemingly for special teams and built depth at LB and CDN safeties seemingly for specials.....but I do question just how many spots we allocated for this and the level of payroll and talent used.....when our O-line, D-line, receivers (up till recently) are so thin and really low on talent or relegated to the PR (I'm sorry I know we need to roster a certain number of Canadians, but I will die on teh hill that Korn does not give us more than Woods or Adams does)

Long winded I know....but to beat teams like Sask, Cal, and yes Hammy we need to better along both lines and our schemes/playcalls on offence need to be better....