Bombers @ Cats

Started by Pigskin, September 07, 2025, 08:45:05 PM

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Pete

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 09, 2025, 01:34:07 AMAyers is a good player
We dress backup Dbs as they are available
Our linebackers are versatile and a pillar of strength for our club
MOS is a excellent coach and so is our DC and they don't care or need to look what other clubs are doing
We do what's best for our club each week
We dress different numbers of DL as needed and available
uhuh but that wasnt my question

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on September 09, 2025, 02:40:22 AMuhuh but that wasnt my question

Ayers is a good player but CFL rosters are subject to the ratio and trying to find players that are the most versatile to use as DI's. Allen and Woodbey are getting all sorts of defensive reps and looking quite good. Ayers was getting some reps but seems to have been passed for those reps.

I don't see either of those players to be removed, so it's a choice of Vanterpool or Ayers from my point of view.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 02:46:30 AMAyers is a good player but CFL rosters are subject to the ratio and trying to find players that are the most versatile to use as DI's. Allen and Woodbey are getting all sorts of defensive reps and looking quite good. Ayers was getting some reps but seems to have been passed for those reps.

I don't see either of those players to be removed, so it's a choice of Vanterpool or Ayers from my point of view.
Agree I wouldn't take our Allen or Woodbey.  Tough decisions again this week.
Quote from: Pete on September 09, 2025, 02:40:22 AMuhuh but that wasnt my question
I provided my take on what you said and challenged your viewpoint
I have no idea what your question was

Pete

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my point really was that sometimes you cant see the forest for the trees. if the bomber coaching staff was looking at the big picture wed have a bit more balance to our roster. Ayers may be a good player, but the manner in which we are currently using him brings into question whether that spot would be better utilized elsewhere. (consider last game 0 tackles)

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Pete on September 09, 2025, 03:34:14 AMmy point really was that sometimes you cant see the forest for the trees. if the bomber coaching staff was looking at the big picture wed have a bit more balance to our roster. Ayers may be a good player, but the manner in which we are currently using him brings into question whether that spot would be better utilized elsewhere. (consider last game 0 tackles)
Ayers on the roster or not is a small factor imo.  I don't see why he is so debated.  I liked him last year and can understand why we play him.  If there is a better option going forward I'm sure we will consider it.  Might be harder for him to remain on the roster as the season progresses.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 08, 2025, 11:23:34 PM3. Echols replaces Mitchell.

I don't know if Wallace is still nicked and not up to starting at LG. Also not sure if Vanterpool should continue to be the starter at LB but I lean that way going forward.

I don't see what Echols buys us vs Mitchell who has been here since TC, but take a flyer, who knows.  Doubt it happens unless someone else "low efforted it" that week.

Wallace: you didn't see my GDT report?  Wallace was in jumbo at times, road grading, etc.  I think he's 100% fine and the GTD was a MOS Magic Switcharoo.  How often do you see a GDT be a "nay" and they still play??
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pete on September 08, 2025, 09:50:03 PMfor those of you versed in offensive plays, I was wondering why we dont utilize Clercius more in a tightend set or even Chris Ike, to me it helps with protection and run blocking as well as giving our qb an outlet pass

Ike does come in somewhat.  Not sure about last game because we had our "normal" 2 jumbos available, and they did come in at times.

As for Clercius: we often bring RECs into the box in motion or post-snap to pass protect.  OFTEN.  However, Clercius is WR, widest out on the widest side of the field, and it's very hard to fake him being a WR then get him into the box in time to help.  AND he's often the end, needing to make sure he doesn't motion off the line.

In theory it sounds good, but maybe it's good enough with Wheatie/Demski handling most of that box duty?  (Yes, Emperor has like 50 lbs on those dudes...)
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 08, 2025, 09:36:30 PMThose that are wavering in the support of the blue don't give up so easy, when the team is down, that's when they need you the most

Well said.  This is so often forgotten.  People love to kick them when they're down.  Like that will help anything.

Same reason I will NEVER boo my Bombers at a game.  I didn't when Brohm chucked every ball straight into the turf.  I won't now.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Horseman on September 08, 2025, 09:28:51 PMNo penalty, it was a text book executed form tackle, exactly like they teach it.

I don't know.  Another foot lifting off the ground and it's likely a penalty.  I've seen similar things flagged before.  It's literally in the rule book as a foul.  But I guess the dude just didn't lift him "high enough".  Vaval should have done the Cody Writhing Trick.  Might have drawn it then...
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BBRT on September 08, 2025, 04:50:55 PMWhile that sounds like a plan doubt ol JT or Lawson can do much of a bull rush these days. Ol JT bless his sole, is way way past his best before date.

Uh, Fatboi's ONLY super power is the bull rush.  If it's a passing play he's usually the only one pushing anyone anywhere.  And he often gets right beside the QB.  Problem is he can't shed that block...

I posit he's our best bull rusher at the moment, inclusive of all the IMPs on PR.
Never go full Rider!

Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 09, 2025, 07:35:33 AMWell said.  This is so often forgotten.  People love to kick them when they're down.  Like that will help anything.

Same reason I will NEVER boo my Bombers at a game.  I didn't when Brohm chucked every ball straight into the turf.  I won't now.
They certainly do my friend.  Seen that story before.  Love the attitude.  I do boo at times, cool that you don't.  Funny memory there.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 09, 2025, 07:31:18 AMI don't see what Echols buys us vs Mitchell who has been here since TC, but take a flyer, who knows.  Doubt it happens unless someone else "low efforted it" that week.

Wallace: you didn't see my GDT report?  Wallace was in jumbo at times, road grading, etc.  I think he's 100% fine and the GTD was a MOS Magic Switcharoo.  How often do you see a GDT be a "nay" and they still play??


Echols may or may not be the answer. Preferably Sterns is back very soon. This issue is that Mitchell has 83 yards total over 5 games. I don't know exactly what the problem is for him. Play calling, not able to find open spaces or no confidence from Collaros. Noting that he couldn't even get on the AR for 7 games?

That indicates a needed change. Echols is the only import option if Sterns is still injured.

IMO any change is a good change at the moment. Echols, Cobb or even Corcoran have to be considered. At least that gives us other options due to the ratio advantage.
One game at a time.

Pigskin

Practice today from 11:35 - 12:55. We will see if ZC8 is on the field taking 1st. team reps.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Pigskin on September 09, 2025, 02:03:21 PMPractice today from 11:35 - 12:55. We will see if ZC8 is on the field taking 1st. team reps.
Everyone cross fingers and toes!!!!

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 01:04:30 PMEchols may or may not be the answer. Preferably Sterns is back very soon. This issue is that Mitchell has 83 yards total over 5 games. I don't know exactly what the problem is for him. Play calling, not able to find open spaces or no confidence from Collaros. Noting that he couldn't even get on the AR for 7 games?

That indicates a needed change. Echols is the only import option if Sterns is still injured.

IMO any change is a good change at the moment. Echols, Cobb or even Corcoran have to be considered. At least that gives us other options due to the ratio advantage.
Good point about the ratio

Pigskin

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 01:04:30 PMEchols may or may not be the answer. Preferably Sterns is back very soon. This issue is that Mitchell has 83 yards total over 5 games. I don't know exactly what the problem is for him. Play calling, not able to find open spaces or no confidence from Collaros. Noting that he couldn't even get on the AR for 7 games?

That indicates a needed change. Echols is the only import option if Sterns is still injured.

IMO any change is a good change at the moment. Echols, Cobb or even Corcoran have to be considered. At least that gives us other options due to the ratio advantage.

At 83 yards in 5 games I would have replaced him with a Canadian WR, and used that American spot for a DT.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.